• NoneOfUrBusiness
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    5818 days ago

    Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords

    I’ll note that for the latter, it’s a failed state ruled by warlords because the US rolled in and fucked everything up.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        1218 days ago

        Okay, and? Like them or hate them (jk you should hate them) but they had a state; it wasn’t “a failed state ruled by warlords”.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness
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            1318 days ago

            No it’s not? A failed state is one in which the state can’t punish a significant amount of non-state sanctioned violence, which wasn’t the case in Afghanistan.

            • @FarceOfWill@infosec.pub
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              418 days ago

              I suppose if you use that definition then when America invaded it became a failed state run by warlords and now it has recovered.

              • NoneOfUrBusiness
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                718 days ago

                Yeah exactly. Now, being a non-failed state, they can start the long, gruelling process of cultural and political evolution. That’s why you’re hearing about Afghani human rights activists now but not ten years ago.

    • @ZK686@lemmy.world
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      -2117 days ago

      No, it’s a failed state because the cartels have more power than the government. Stop blaming your own country, traitor.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        618 days ago

        I mean it wasn’t exactly a shining example of progress and order, but it wasn’t a failed state.

      • @EvilCartyen@feddit.dk
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        918 days ago

        Arguably, Afghanistan has never been united as a nation in the way we think about it, at least not for long. The cycle seems to be short decades of control under some power followed by decades of decentralization and local powers.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        217 days ago

        I mean given that the war on terror started in 2001, we don’t need to go back any further than 1980.