Fuck you Bibi. That is all.
From what I remember (a very long time ago!), Isaiah is basically We’re unjustly oppressed and attacked and things look really bad, but just trust in God and your leaders and your diaspora will come home and everyone will come to your side and your enemies will be defeated and we’ll end up rich and in charge.
Organized religion can get fucked along with all these deathmongers using “god” as an excuse to kill or harm others.
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World War 1 and 2 weren’t a walk in the park. There are plenty of non-religious sociopaths that somehow find themselves in control of millions of people.
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Hitler and Stalin couldn’t give less than a shit about any particular god or religion. They used any excuse to fund/justify their tyranny. People like that in power are the bane of mankind’s existence throughout the ages. Religion is just another tool for people like this to use use whenever it’s convenient.
“Gott mit uns”
need anyone say more?
Hitler …couldn’t give less than a shit about any particular god or religion.
I’d say he gave a pretty big shit about at least one religion.
I’m not sure how much one can harp on the whole “master race” thing before people stop trying to blame it on some actual scholarly disagreement about religious doctrine, as if Hitler and Stalin were so fucking pious. None of theae psychopaths give a shit about gods and religion.
Ask me and I would say almost all suffering and experience has a purpose and a potential lesson to be understood, vices, religion and spirituality etc. If you believe in drugs, Karma or a God, as a form of spirituality, etc, you would probably have imagined the possibility of group narcissism and misguided interventions being the reasons behind certain suffering, so religion would naturally be the next big step, to try to convince everyone to be of one mind.
That and Malaria.
Malaria is just part of gods plan, so add that to their kill count as well.
But God isn’t real. Malaria is.
Malaria is just god in a physical form.
If the Christian god was real, he would certainly be at least as evil as malaria - if that’s what you mean.
God works in mysterious ways.
More like the biggest excuse for murdering others for your own benefit. If religion didn’t exist, demagogues would find something else as a tool to justify blind hatred.
Nah, your thinking of nationalism. WWI and WWII had very little to do with religion but in terms of body count far exceed the likes of the crusades. If you ask your average soldier throughout history why they’re doing what they’re doing patriotism will come up more often than God. Naked self interest would probably be the actual top reason but people don’t usually say the quiet part aloud.
Nationalism has only been a thing for a few hundred years, though. We’ve been murdering each other over religion for millenia. I still think religion “wins”.
ask your average soldier throughout history why they’re doing what they’re doing patriotism will come up more often than God.
Country/Nation is a rather new concept - most people throughout history would say which village/area they were from. It didn’t have to be a Holy War for the leader to say “we have to fight (invaders) because they are an affront to (whatever god.)”
I don’t imagine the average peasant would care the nation of the person taking taxes from them, so long as those taxes were low and that’s all they took. (I mean obviously they didn’t love paying taxes.) And remember, one of the reasons used for the taking of taxes was that leaders were ordained by God.
You can’t defeat hamas militarily. They are a terrorist group, they want to be attacked as viciously as possible, because that creates more recruits for them.
Its been proven time and time again and yet every single time these old fucking cranks do not understand that.
You can’t defeat hamas militarily.
Of course you can. You essentially have to. The issue isn’t defeating them, but rebuilding afterwards. Deradicalizing Islamic terrorists without a fight is not something anybody knows how to do.
While it’s theoretically possible, I don’t think this way could achieve it. Keep in mind that while winning would be a plus for Hamas, the only thing they consider vital is for Israel to suffer.
The following magical scenario might have worked: -Hamas committed the atrocity, just like they did, so everyone can see they have it coming. -Magically surgically obliterate Hamas to a man without inflicting violence on any non combatants.
However, Israel is inflicting massive collateral damage, casualties, and blockading. Inciting hatred among a whole generation of people that would be Hamas. Even if you did genocide on the whole area, other people in the surrounding region are likely to take up the Hamas mission in retaliation. An adequately surgical outcome is likely impossible, but it’s probable that Israel could have managed somewhat better than they have.
so, history has shown that the military stuff doesn’t really work at fighting terrorist insurgents. Ironically, you have to do the “rebuilding” beforehand, and even then you will eventually need to let some of them go.
so, history has shown that the military stuff doesn’t really work
Worked pretty damn well against Germany and Japan. The crux is that Hamas is no longer just random insurgents, they already are the government and they have wide support in the population.
you have to do the “rebuilding” beforehand
All of that just ends up supporting Hamas. They’ll have all the resources with none of the responsibilities. Just look what they have done in Gaza, they build huge tunnel networks, thousands of rockets and kept indoctrinating the next generation in schools and camps. You don’t stop that by throwing more resources at them. You have to completely disrupt their organisation and replace the hole they leave with something else.
I mean irseal tried occupying Gaza that also didn’t help
Worked pretty damn well against Germany and Japan.
tell me you know nothing of Europe from 1800 to the 60s without telling me you don’t know anything.
ironically, 400 years of war and destruction never stopped the french-german enmity, but I’m sure it will work in the Middle East!
as for the second thing, Israel could stop supporting Hamas against the current Palestinian government, but then how will Netanyahu wage war against the brown people?
Hey, as long as it distracts Israel from his judicial problems and his role in allowing Hamas to rise, it’s all good for him.
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Agreed.
They are no better than the Nazis that attacked them a nearly a century ago
It is fascinating to me that no one is asking what outcome Hamas was looking for after these attacks. Is no one concerned that Israel is doing EXACTLY what Hamas must have expected them to do? They almost certainly had a plan and doing exactly what the other side expects means your going along with that plan. Hamas had to have known this is what would happen, so this happening is giving them what they wanted: An Israel that is rapidly losing its international mandate while committing atrocities against civilians on center stage in front of the whole world.
Hamas, following in the steps of the 9/11 attack which caused the USA govt to go into violent idiot mode so the rest of the world would despise it. The only winners in the attacks on civilians are Likud and Hamas, who get more powerful against citizens.
One theory is that they hoped that other Arab nations would join and attack Israel. That so far didn’t happen and so Hamas has to bear the full brunt of Israel’s response all by themselves.
You are enjoying your peace through two fucking world wars. Deal with it.
Cannot with military my ass.
Come on! Vietnam (both French- and US-versions), Afghanistan (both Russian- and US-versions), Korean war etc
Ah yes, world War 1, where we quickly and efficiently crushed the Bosnian Serb uprising without causing any further problems which is why the Austria-Hungarian empire is still so prevalent today.
Disarming and humbling the central powers worked so well that we didn’t have any second world war afterward
That’s why you don’t humble them, you destroy them and replace them. We didn’t get rid of Hitler by being nice to him.
you know what America and the allies did AFTER ww2? and how that differed from the previous conflicts? (hint, there were MANY Nazis left in Germany)
Netanyahu use “Activate Evangelicals” on Republicans
Its super effective!
What’s funny is that saying Isaiah’s Prophecy will be fulfilled is completely opposite to Christianity, since Christians believe is already was fulfilled with the birth of Jesus.
Bruh you think they’ve actually read and understood the old testament?
They’ve read Left Behind and that’s all they care about.
Or the New Testament?
You’re lucky if they’ve looked at the pictures in the “picture book” versions for kids.
He literally sounds like all those terrorist religious zealots that I was told were such a threat for bringing sharia law to ‘the homeland’ after 9/11. How long will rational thinkers have to suffer under the weight of ignorant frauds like Netanyahu and their magic fan fictions. What a absolute sick joke of an ideology.
History always fondly remembers the guy who said “God needs us to kill all of those people”.
Delusional. I feel like he doesn’t necessarily care about his own people either, just want to commit genocide and take over land at any cost.
The fact that people still defend this guy makes me perplexed.
Right-wingers never give a shit about their own people.
He knows that he’ll lose power once that war ends. He will prolong it as long as he can. Of course he doesn’t care about the lifes of his own people, never did.
“We all will have to provide answers to what happened on Oct. 7, myself included — but only after the war,” said Netanyahu.
So he wants more time for war crimes before anyone charges him with war crimes. And he’s referencing biblical prophecy and all but calling it a holy war. The man has lost his mind clearly.
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The people of Israel and his supporters are on the hook as well.
Never again means never again, for any people.
If we actually start punishing genocide, there’s going to be a long line before Israel.
Unfortunately, squeaky wheel gets the grease
Makes sense to start in reverse order.
Wrong. You start with those who are doing genocide now and you go backwards.
Still a long line then.
He knows he’s in the shit. But he’s thinking maybe he can quickly arrange cover with the ultra religious, and the longer he stays in office, the more time he has to arrange cover or change the narrative.
I don’t understand responses like this.
Them are holy grounds on which israel and palestine stand, for all 3 abrahamic religions. Every one of them has a prophecy for the end of times which great powers that be will try and manifest into reality.
As long as religions exist, and as long as they have followers this orthodox in their “interpretation”, that area will remain in turmoil.
How this basic and all encompassing fact is not front and center in every discussion on this situation boggles my mind.
If Jerusalem were glass, those religions would struggle with their prophecies.
I am not proposing violence, I am, however, saying there are other ways it ends and nukes are proliferating over there. Missile guidance is so-so.
Because it has become a faux pas to criticize religion. Religion is something personal and if you criticize it you are offending people personally, and that is forbidden by our recently new social norms.
Nah you can mock me for being spiritual lol
crazy how people are finally paying attention to Netanyahu now but I still remember him as fuckin donkey who can’t form a government to save his life. nobody liked him before this, let’s try to remember that…
Glad to see grand delusions being used in critical decision making.
No it won’t
Removing Netanyahoo will make the prophecy of a better society a reality
He uses too much make-up
This guy is no different from the criminals of Daesh.
