Both sides are the same
AgeCOOL
Skeksis need to retire, not collapse into dust while holding on to the royal scepter.
The land is dying, and the Skeksis continue to drain its life force
The fucked up thing is that people are still gonna vote for her. No one cares about corruption or acrually having good political leaders, they just need their team to win like it’s some kind of stupid sport.
Because there is no corruption. Right wing conspiracy theories aren’t fact
There’s corruption. The whole system is corrupt and Pelosi is a whirlwind of corruption. Does not make right wing conspiracy theories any more correct, though.
“the whole system is corrupt”
Take off your tinfoil
Blues and Greens…just like the Byzantines
Or they know how important it is that the Republicans not win.
It’s not just about keeping score and keeping points for the red team. The blue team is currently fighting for white supremacy, christian supremacy, male supremacy, and to change the rules to make any other political party irrelevant.
If someone as wonderful as Mr. Rogers ran against Nancy Pelosi, but that person said he’d vote with his Republican colleagues on every important issue, his own personal qualities wouldn’t matter. He personally might not lie, cheat or steal, but he’d be supporting a party that openly does all those things.
It sucks, but when it’s a first-past-the-post system with 2 major parties, you mostly have to hold your nose and vote against the greater evil.
Usually these style titles are for deaths, and I got excited for a moment
“We are gathered here today to honor the memory of Nancy Pelosi, who-”
“Wait, no! I’m still running for Senate in 2032! I just switched to the Zombie Party!”
“…I told you guys this should have been a closed casket funeral.”We seriously need age limits for elected officials, it’s absolutely absurd to have an octogenarian in a position of authority like that.
While we’re at it, term limits for congress would be nice - 19 terms is absolutely ridiculous.
We do legitimately have a gerontocracy problem and this doesn’t help, but at the same time as long as she’s capable of doing the job I can’t in good conscience object either. The beauty of our system of government is anyone can run. You don’t like her, run against her or STFU and quit screaming at the clouds.
Not sure about you but I don’t have the time or money to run.
But you do live in the district? Excellent. Now get some support and raise some money. Make sure to talk to the party of choice. Get some petitions signed. You have to work to get on a ballot.
True, anyone can technically run. But in practice, a fresh-faced new candidate going up against a well-funded incumbent will very very rarely win. The few times it has happened the incumbent either didn’t take the threat seriously (AOC), or the incumbent was involved in a big scandal.
For your well-intentioned version of America to exist in reality, we’d need to do a few things: overturn Citizens United, require that all elections be fully publicly funded, ban private political donations, and stop letting elected officials draw their own maps. Until then, the gerontocracy will go on.
You give me a dozen reasons why can’t win. Maybe your the wrong person for the job.
Someday I’ll tell you the story of 7 of 11 and Obama.
Oh I’m definitely the wrong person for the job. And I’m not running, see above.
The beauty of our system of government is anyone can run. You don’t like her, run against her or STFU and quit screaming at the clouds.
You act like primaries are fair…
Even the DNC stopped doing that years ago, why do you still believe it?
The Court continued, “For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates ‘go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’ the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.”
Conflating
Shahid Buttar was a very good candidate running against Pelosi. DNC wasn’t happy and the idiot Dem voters from the District just fell in line behind the incumbent as both party’s voters tend to do. It’s just a fucked up, dysfunctional system we have going here.
Lookee there. The candidate didn’t get the support or votes and lost. Therefore it’s a dysfunctional system. If you added “and it must be destroyed” you could join the Republican party. Candidates lose. It happen every election.
It’s a dysfunctional system because of the way it is. If you can’t see it…well, I don’t know what to tell you. I would love to get a pair of those rose-tinted ignorance-is-bliss glasses.
All I know, friend, is that the same system has worked for over 100 years.
No, no. You see buttery emails and stuff, they never deliberately worked against Bernie to ensure Clinton won. Totally it was all the people voting.
brings up Bernie in current year
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Pretends the same corruption magically no longer exists
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if the dnc didn’t like fucking up primaries, bernie’s vp would be the front-runner in 2024. oh, and the country would be in a lot better shape than it is now, too.
i hope california can come up with a candidate that can challenge pelosi in the primaries.
The Court continued, “For their part, the DNC and Wasserman Schultz have characterized the DNC charter’s promise of ‘impartiality and evenhandedness’ as a mere political promise—political rhetoric that is not enforceable in federal courts. The Court does not accept this trivialization of the DNC’s governing principles. While it may be true in the abstract that the DNC has the right to have its delegates ‘go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,’ the DNC, through its charter, has committed itself to a higher principle.”
I’m not saying the DNC isn’t biased. But it looks like that was a legal arguments made by lawyers. Generally, they make every argument they can fit into their brief.
It was only their lawyers and the person running it at the time that said it, that doesn’t count!
Can both the right and left agree to start electing people in their 40s or 50s for a change?
Well, if you want her to stop being in Congress, you know what to do in the primaries.
I’d vote against Pelosi in the primaries for the same reason I’d vote against Biden or Trump or McConnell or Feinstein in the primaries. They’re all too fucking old. The average age of the Senate is 64 years. The average age of the House of Representatives is 57 years.
Here’s every senator or congressperson age 68 or older.
State Senator Age Birthdate Party Iowa Charles E. Grassley 89 9/17/33 R California Dianne Feinstein 89 6/22/33 D Vermont Bernie Sanders 81 9/8/41 I Kentucky Mitch McConnell 80 2/20/42 R Maryland Benjamin L. Cardin 79 10/5/43 D Idaho Jim Risch 79 5/3/43 R Illinois Richard J. Durbin 78 11/21/44 D Maine Angus King 78 3/31/44 I Massachusetts Edward J. Markey 76 7/11/46 D Connecticut Richard Blumenthal 76 2/13/46 D Utah Mitt Romney 75 3/12/47 R Vermont Peter Welch 75 5/2/47 D Hawaii Mazie K. Hirono 75 11/3/47 D West Virginia Joe Manchin III 75 8/24/47 D New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen 75 1/28/47 D Delaware Thomas R. Carper 75 1/23/47 D Rhode Island Jack Reed 73 11/12/49 D Oregon Ron Wyden 73 5/3/49 D Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren 73 6/22/49 D Arkansas John Boozman 72 12/10/50 R Michigan Debbie Stabenow 72 4/29/50 D New York Charles E. Schumer 72 11/23/50 D Washington Patty Murray 72 10/11/50 D Mississippi Roger Wicker 71 7/5/51 R Idaho Michael D. Crapo 71 5/20/51 R Louisiana John Kennedy 71 11/21/51 R Nebraska Deb Fischer 71 3/1/51 R Colorado John Hickenlooper 70 2/7/52 D Florida Rick Scott 70 12/1/52 R Texas John Cornyn 70 2/2/52 R Wyoming John Barrasso 70 7/21/52 R Maine Susan Collins 70 12/7/52 R Ohio Sherrod Brown 70 11/9/52 D Tennessee Marsha Blackburn 70 6/6/52 R West Virginia Shelley Moore Capito 69 11/26/53 R New Jersey Bob Menendez 69 1/1/54 D Virginia Mark Warner 68 12/15/54 D Alabama Tommy Tuberville 68 9/18/54 R Kansas Jerry Moran 68 5/29/54 R Indiana Mike Braun 68 3/24/54 R South Dakota Mike Rounds 68 10/24/54 R Wyoming Cynthia Lummis 68 9/10/54 R District Congressperson Age Birthdate Party CA-31 Grace F. Napolitano 86 12/4/36 Democratic DC-AL Eleanor Holmes Norton 85 6/13/37 Democratic KY-05 Harold Rogers 85 12/31/37 Republican NJ-09 Bill Pascrell Jr. 85 1/25/37 Democratic CA-43 Maxine Waters 84 8/15/38 Democratic MD-05 Steny H. Hoyer 83 6/14/39 Democratic SC-06 James E. Clyburn 82 7/21/40 Democratic CA-11 Nancy Pelosi 82 3/26/40 Democratic IL-07 Danny K. Davis 81 9/6/41 Democratic TX-31 John Carter 81 11/6/41 Republican CA-16 Anna G. Eshoo 80 12/13/42 Democratic FL-24 Frederica S. Wilson 80 11/5/42 Democratic CT-03 Rosa DeLauro 79 3/2/43 Democratic NC-05 Virginia Foxx 79 6/29/43 Republican TX-12 Kay Granger 79 1/18/43 Republican CA-07 Doris Matsui 78 9/25/44 Democratic IL-09 Jan Schakowsky 78 5/26/44 Democratic MO-05 Emanuel Cleaver II 78 10/26/44 Democratic GA-13 David Scott 77 6/27/45 Democratic IN-04 Jim Baird 77 6/4/45 Republican NJ-12 Bonnie Watson Coleman 77 2/6/45 Democratic CA-08 John Garamendi 77 1/24/45 Democratic OH-09 Marcy Kaptur 76 6/17/46 Democratic TX-37 Lloyd Doggett 76 10/6/46 Democratic CA-12 Barbara Lee 76 7/16/46 Democratic NC-12 Alma Adams 76 5/27/46 Democratic MD-02 C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger 76 1/31/46 Democratic TX-09 Al Green 75 9/1/47 Democratic VA-03 Robert C. Scott 75 4/30/47 Democratic GA-02 Sanford D. Bishop Jr. 75 2/4/47 Democratic NY-12 Jerrold Nadler 75 6/13/47 Democratic CA-18 Zoe Lofgren 75 12/21/47 Democratic FL-08 Bill Posey 75 12/18/47 Republican AS-AL Aumua Amata Coleman Radewagen 75 12/29/47 Republican SC-02 Joe Wilson 75 7/31/47 Republican MI-01 Jack Bergman 75 2/2/47 Republican FL-22 Lois Frankel 74 5/16/48 Democratic MS-02 Bennie Thompson 74 1/28/48 Democratic OR-03 Earl Blumenauer 74 8/16/48 Democratic CT-01 John B. Larson 74 7/22/48 Democratic AZ-07 Raul M. Grijalva 74 2/19/48 Democratic PA-16 Mike Kelly 74 5/10/48 Republican TX-36 Brian Babin 74 3/23/48 Republican MD-07 Kweisi Mfume 74 10/24/48 Democratic NY-20 Paul Tonko 73 6/18/49 Democratic TN-09 Steve Cohen 73 5/24/49 Democratic OK-04 Tom Cole 73 4/28/49 Republican TX-25 Roger Williams 73 9/13/49 Republican MA-01 Richard E. Neal 73 2/14/49 Democratic FL-11 Daniel Webster 73 4/27/49 Republican ID-02 Mike Simpson 72 9/8/50 Republican TX-29 Sylvia R. Garcia 72 9/6/50 Democratic NV-01 Dina Titus 72 5/23/50 Democratic OH-03 Joyce Beatty 72 3/12/50 Democratic VA-11 Gerald E. Connolly 72 3/30/50 Democratic WV-01 Carol Miller 72 11/4/50 Republican TX-18 Sheila Jackson Lee 72 1/12/50 Democratic TX-26 Michael C. Burgess 72 12/23/50 Republican VA-08 Donald S. Beyer Jr. 72 6/20/50 Democratic FL-16 Vern Buchanan 71 5/8/51 Republican CA-04 Mike Thompson 71 1/24/51 Democratic NJ-06 Frank Pallone Jr. 71 10/30/51 Democratic WI-04 Gwen Moore 71 4/18/51 Democratic MI-05 Tim Walberg 71 4/12/51 Republican GA-12 Rick W. Allen 71 11/7/51 Republican UT-04 Burgess Owens 71 8/2/51 Republican CA-21 Jim Costa 70 4/13/52 Democratic MA-09 William Keating 70 9/6/52 Democratic FL-05 John Rutherford 70 9/2/52 Republican CA-26 Julia Brownley 70 8/28/52 Democratic CA-10 Mark DeSaulnier 70 3/31/52 Democratic OR-02 Cliff Bentz 70 1/12/52 Republican MO-03 Blaine Luetkemeyer 70 5/7/52 Republican HI-01 Ed Case 70 9/27/52 Democratic MI-06 Debbie Dingell 69 11/23/53 Democratic CA-28 Judy Chu 69 7/7/53 Democratic CA-41 Ken Calvert 69 6/8/53 Republican NY-07 Nydia M. Velazquez 69 3/28/53 Democratic TX-03 Keith Self 69 3/20/53 Republican CA-48 Darrell Issa 69 11/1/53 Republican CT-02 Joe Courtney 69 4/6/53 Democratic NJ-02 Jeff Van Drew 69 2/23/53 Republican NY-05 Gregory W. Meeks 69 9/25/53 Democratic TX-14 Randy Weber 69 7/2/53 Republican FL-02 Neal Dunn 69 2/16/53 Republican SC-05 Ralph Norman 69 6/20/53 Republican NJ-04 Christopher H. Smith 69 3/4/53 Republican PA-03 Dwight Evans 68 5/16/54 Democratic MI-13 Shri Thanedar 68 1/1/55 Democratic OR-01 Suzanne Bonamici 68 10/14/54 Democratic GA-04 Hank Johnson 68 10/2/54 Democratic NY-13 Adriano Espaillat 68 9/27/54 Democratic MN-04 Betty McCollum 68 7/12/54 Democratic CA-32 Brad Sherman 68 10/24/54 Democratic AL-06 Gary Palmer 68 5/14/54 Republican FL-28 Carlos Gimenez 68 1/17/54 Republican OH-06 Bill Johnson 68 11/10/54 Republican Pelosi in particular isn’t just old but is also showing some signs of seriously impaired memory at the least.
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That’s… eye-opening
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Ugh!
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Damn bro calm down, that level of hate against any human is concerning. I absolutely think she should be voted out and go enjoy her retirement, but wishing that level of ill upon another person is worrying.
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No.
No, no, no, no, no!
Is she looking at Feinstein and thinking “well, I don’t need to be propped up yet, so I should still be able to run the country!”
I don’t care on which side of the aisle these oldies sit. They do not represent the will of a people who are largely younger than they are by two decades.
No, she’s looking at her and her husband’s bank accounts and thinking “well, I don’t need to be propped up yet, so I can continue to be grossly corrupt and get even richer”
Well, she is the queen of congressional insider trading…
She was # 6 in 2021, # 1 to 5 were all Republicans.
Then things didn’t go as well in 2022
So how about we start paying attention to Republican tradings? 👍
Republicans are masters of messaging. They latch onto one thing for one person and pound it over and over again. The left accepts that these are bad things (they are) but won’t whatabout enough about the Republicans that do it worse, so this becomes Pelosi’s image while those that do it worse are unknown.
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I’m just pointing out the fact that people are always pointing at Pelosi but she’s not the biggest culprit and no people aren’t putting as much attention on the people who are actually worse than her.
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That’s her investments, not her gains.
While you are right this has zero to do with whatever party you want to idolize it’s a problem for all sides we need to focus on all of them, none of these clowns should be able to make trades, they are in positions where they actually can shape the outcomes of their trades that’s fucking ridiculous
And on topic there needs to be some realistic term limits for these jackasses especially when they start to get older, nothing wrong with being old but if you are running a country and you get stuck staring at cameras in a daze it’s time to go… ffs most people I know can’t wait to retire and would do so even earlier if they could yet these goblins are slopping it up at the trough
This is a class issue always has been
Never said it wasn’t the case, I just pointed out the Pelosi is always the target when the fact is she’s not the worst and there’s zero attention put on any Republicans regarding that.
Explain how. Can you cite any trades that are particularly suspicious?
You’re basically espousing right wing talking points that they came up with to divert attention from the republicans who are actively insider trading. There are plenty of things to criticize pelosi for rather than this stupid argument which isn’t backed up by facts.
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I mention her trading because this is a post about her.
Corruption is corruption and it spans both chambers and all layers of government.
So you don’t care if it’s true or not, you’re just mentioning it because you associate insider trading with pelosi for just random unrelated reasons?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-07/pelosi-s-husband-locked-in-5-3-million-from-alphabet-options?srnd=premium#xj4y7vzkg Paul Pelosi is forever making suspiciously well-timed trades. When it became a scandal, they intentionally sold Nvidia shares at a loss to try to end scrutiny of that trade.
It’s not a Republican talking point. I’m as far left as they come and I’m offended by her corruption (even if Joe Manchin’s family seems worse).
So, he exercised his options he held for quite a while, a “week before House panel considered antitrust bills”. What exactly was the insider information? And, he just exercised the options to hold the stock. Not sure how that’s evidence of insider trading
She predates the baby boomers. She was in diapers when pearl harbor was bombed. Two decades younger should be the mandatory retirement age for politicians.
Younger by two decades is still mid 60s/retirement age
The average age of constituents in her district is 40. I cant figure out how she keeps getting elected, unless she’s just never had a peimary challenger worth a damn.
HEY REPUBLICANS:
I’m as left leaning as they come and this old bitch should retire. This is one of the many many many differences between us. All you care about is winning, like this is some type of fucking football game, and I care about is what’s best for our country.
Apparently not in California, home to both Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein.
