Who should we trust if not in those who have sworn to protect us and the law?
Communities defend communities.
Swearing to protect is vapid symbolism that anyone can feign with ease, and the laws are rarely decided by the people subject to them. The fact that so many people trust state police is amazing once we take a step back and analyse it.
Interesting case studies include real places that evicted police and politicians.
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Those swearing they will protect the law (or any thing else) are usually not the ones actually doing it
Just another Tuesday for German cops.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Prosecutors in Germany have uncovered illegal content including Nazi symbols in chat messages involving five officers from three different police districts.
The five men, aged 22 and 25, are suspected to have exchanged Nazi symbols in chats and possessed child pornography during their training, according to Annette Milk, the chief public prosecutor investigating the case.
Nevertheless, the allegations are so serious that after examining each individual case, I immediately banned the three officers from conducting official business," Friederike Zurhausen, the police chief of Recklinghausen, said in a statement.
“Young civil servants, like older ones, must stand up for justice, law and the values of our constitution without a shadow of a doubt,” he continued.
Several far-right terror attacks in 2019 and early 2020 prompted German authorities to warn of escalating extremism, which led to these hate-speech laws being tightened last year.
According to the latest ministry information from the end of July, the North Rhine-Westphalian police have suspended or penalised 105 incidents of right-wing extremist behavior over the past six years.
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And this is why you don’t allow societies to have police
Yet another another isolated incident?!
ALLES EINZELFÄLLE
Cops are cops, it seems.
Weirdly enough, the police is well educated over here. So they can’t even claim ignorance.
The police officers committed these acts while they were still in training as part of their dual bachelor’s degree.
Yet this is better than the alternative, it’s easier to get rid of them at the earlier stage.
Doesn’t change the type of people that seek power over others.
The difference to the US is that these 3 guys got found out, and will most likely go to jail.
The nazi party is illegal in Germany.
Well there’s the AfD right now… Which is practically a fascist party.
True. But at least the Nazi leanings are depressingly common in the German police. And they do get away with a lot of if shit, even if it’s not anywhere near as bad as in the US.
Claim ignorance? How? “I didn’t learn in school that neo-nazism and abusing children is frowned upon in society” ?
I hope not being a nazi or a pedo doesn’t require an education for people. That’s just obvious shit to me
Pedophilia is a mental condition, much like homosexuality. They don’t choose to be one, they know it’s wrong. I bet there are plenty of closeted pedos (i.e. don’t act on their urges and trying to lead normal lives). The only difference is that homosexuality occurs between consenting adults, and doesn’t hurt anyone except for the sensibilities of some righteous pious {profanity}, while pedos hurt innocent children, which is fucked up.
tl;dr some pedos are (very) bad for acting on their sexual preferences, they aren’t bad for having them. Taking this conclusion a bit further - making child porn is obviously abhorrent and one of the most heinous crimes I can imagine along with rape and murder, but watching these movies once they are made without profiting the perpetrators, isn’t so morally depraved. Especially if it keeps the urge to rape a child at bay.
Modern psychology says they shouldn’t be consuming those videos, it mentally normalizes to t. They need total abstinence, possibly removal from any source of any temptation, and if need be chemical or physical suppression of their desires.
Additionally homosexuality is a normal variant on human attraction, the full equal to heterosexuality not just culturally but in the eyes of psychology. Pedophilia is now understood to be a deviation in psychosexual development.
Additionally spreading csam in right wing extremist communities isn’t necessarily an expression of desire but at times is done to trauma bond members
And finally the feelings of the victims must be considered. It cannot be safely or reasonably assumed that any significant portion of people would be comfortable with people passing around and masturbating to their childhood sexual exploitation.
There is no safe or healthy outlet for those desires.
It was not long ago that homosexuality was also categorized as deviation in psycho-sexual development. The American Psychiatric Association listed homosexuality in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) in 1952. In 1968, DSM-II also listed homosexuality as a mental disorder. Not until 1987 did homosexuality completely fall out of the DSM. Pedophilia is in the DSM just, as opposed to Homosexuality, because it could possibly cause harm to others - that’s the sole distinction.
There were no big studies regarding the effects of consuming child porn, but the little there is seems to suggest it does not exacerbate the condition, or lead to higher probability of a physical offense: https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-244X-9-43
Moreover, child pornography seems to be a protective factor, according to Diamond, Jozifkova and Weis (2010). They examined the number of sexual offenses that took place in Czechoslovakia from the 70’s till the end of 2007. At the end of 1989 the velvet revolution took place; the Czech Republic became a democracy and the prohibition of pornography was lifted. During the next 17 years child pornography was accepted. Initially one would expect that the number of sexually abused children would increase, but Diamond and his colleagues concluded the opposite. During the same 17 years, they found a decrease in the number of cases of sexual abused children. Also in Japan and Denmark child sexual abuse decreased in the period when child pornography was not prohibited.
In fact, there’s a suggested investigation for treatment utilizing virtual child porn.
ACAB
Assigned cunt at birth
This statement is offensive to cunts. I´m serious.
No, they have to be molded into this way of life. It’s 100% an environmental thing.
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acab =?
All Cops Are Bastards
they’re the Blue Meanies
Ok, you know different cops “over here”. In Hannover they’re mostly on the simple side, more spoons in the knife drawer, candles in a lamp shop. No boookz, more harassing homeless folks or kicking teenagers. Educa-what? All in all - despicable group of people. That’s not an opinion, that’s an observation over decades btw. So - it fits and doesn’t surprise at all.
Not these anymore they aren’t.
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You didn’t even have to say German
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No need to be an asshole dude, Germans are generally pretty cool people.
Um… I’m german and I prefer Schnitzel and Apfelschorle anytime.
Where do you get your qualified knowledge from? lol
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Hanz… ? not even a german name
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lmao
I am jack’s complete lack of surprise
Alles nur Einzelfälle…
Those two things do go hand-in-hand a lot.
No one is surprised. People don’t join the police to serve the people, they join it to bully them. We all know the gems attracted to positions like that.
That’s not true, plenty of people join to help.
They get bullied out by all the bullies, or become one of them.
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Not sure if you noticed dear American, but if you look reaaallly closely you’ll see that they are GERMAN police and not your flavor of pyscho garbage roleplaying as law enforcement.
Are they teaching the British Met, or are the Met teaching them?
