Summary

The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.

The proposal could ease restrictions on select Russian entities and oligarchs, though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return.

Trump has signaled openness to sanctions relief despite previously threatening harsher measures.

Talks between U.S. and Russian officials have intensified, with economic cooperation, including rare earth minerals, emerging as a key topic.

  • @tyrant@lemmy.world
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    3442 months ago

    This is so wrong. I hate what we’ve become. As an American, I’ve never been proud of what this country has done but I’ve never been THIS ashamed. I feel like a joke.

    • Obinice
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      01 month ago

      As an American? Surely you mean as a proud member of the new American Protectorate of the Russian Federation, comrade?

      APRF, got a ring to it!

      Anyway better start being proud or it’s off to Gulaganamo Bay…

    • Lit
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      52 months ago

      To help Putin, he is bankrupting USA just like how he bankrupted his casinos.

    • @samus12345@lemm.ee
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      2 months ago

      There’s no more room for nuance. We (that is, our government) are the baddies. Straight up.

      • @OutForARip@lemmy.ca
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        482 months ago

        So let’s stop beating around the bush at what has to be done, violent revolution is the only path to freedom.

        • @samus12345@lemm.ee
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          392 months ago

          I’m approximately 2,700 miles from DC, so I’ll need several days’ notice for when the violent insurrection will be.

          • @cyphear@lemm.ee
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            202 months ago

            Can it wait a few more months? I need a bit more PTO. Rent doesn’t pay itself.

            • @418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works
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              52 months ago

              This is kind of an underrated sentiment. I think a big reason there aren’t more protests and revolting is because we really can’t afford it. The financial impact on each individual can be significant. Employers don’t support time off for anything of a political nature, not even voting.

              I don’t believe this situation isn’t intentional. It seems that countries who take two hour lunch breaks and don’t let their jobs dictate their entire lives are far more likely to protest en mass.

              https://youtube.com/shorts/en_VpZtUFcE?si=o903rVCyOMGHFCv7

              • @Sanctus@lemmy.world
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                32 months ago

                Thing is, saving that house now by forsaking the country could lead to that same door being kicked down by the feds in just a few months for that liberal Facebook post you made calling trans people human. Get in the Gitmo van.

              • @metaldream@sopuli.xyz
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                22 months ago

                The BLM protests were the largest in US history. The fact is that most Americans have been coddled by a stable democracy and don’t care if they lose it, as long as someone puts a buck in their pocket. They think it won’t affect them because Congress bad, both sides bad.

                Of the ones who do care, they think protests dOn’T wOrK because BLM or the Palestine protests failed. Completely ignoring the fact that other civil resistance movements have succeeded and are historically more successful than armed revolts against the upper class.

  • @scripthook@lemmy.world
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    Yeah I figured this would happen. And when the cost of gas goes up because of his Tarrifs we’ll be buying oil from Russia again…

    • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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      112 months ago

      pretty much, they switches thier strategy to using propaganda and bribing since the 80s;.

      • @FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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        101 month ago

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

        In the Americas, United States, and Canada:

        -Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke “Afro-American racists” to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics”.

  • @Hlodwig@lemmy.world
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    1742 months ago

    I have nothing against americans, but this is Hitler level bullshit and if americans dont wake up after this (like revolt level wake up), they are no better than today russians orks or past german nazis sympathizer. Until they get their shit together by getting rid of this orange shit pile, americans can just go fuck themselves…

    • Paul
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      11 month ago

      I posted this on a Reddit thread, but we have become very dependent on certain technologies. The resistance is taking a while to get warmed up. One of the biggest issues is our communication channels used in the first administration have all been compromised. Twitter, Whatsapp, and Reddit are all being used against us. There may never be a hashtag protest again.

      No one thinks this is normal or okay. But there is an air of fear that the secret police tech bros are listening.

      • @Hlodwig@lemmy.world
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        21 month ago

        FYI if everybody no longer pay their taxes and no longer work, its game over for the government in less than a year and in a peacefull way… (Excluding food, energy and health sector of course, and people will need to be able to rely on their communities exclusively, but lets be honest, in the US its already the case…)

        Imagine a COVID but as a national and perpetual strike/protest. Even with a third of the population doing that, it would work.

    • MonsterMonster
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      172 months ago

      I’m trying hard not to accuse America per se but recognise that this is Trump and his administration being driven by Kremlin interference and direct involvement.

      I cannot see the American people putting up with this nightmare but I fear it’s not hitting home as it should.

      Ukraine is just a part of a bigger picture where Russia is actively interfering with Western politics, business, governments, elections and referendums with the aim of bringing down the West.

      With the traditional USA out of the game Russia will move on to eastern Europe. In the meantime China makes it’s move on Taiwan and others in the region; the Trump USA taking Canada, Greenland, Western Europe; the middle east being carved between Russia and Trump USA.

      It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets any better whilst Trump is in power.

      • @WindyRebel@lemmy.world
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        42 months ago

        I sincerely hope that the military, even red state members, would recognize invading Canada or any of these countries as being a real fucked move and not what they signed up for.

    • @PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      -11 month ago

      Even though the EU has been funding Russia with fossil fuel imports? Kinda feels like we’re the only country that was willing to make a stand and did it alone while Russia’s GDP rose last year.

    • @Someone@lemmy.ca
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      142 months ago

      I hadn’t thought of it that way before but I think you nailed it. History won’t care who you voted for.

      • @Taldan@lemmy.world
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        62 months ago

        [From interviews in 1953] The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule

        I never considered some Germans still favored the Nazi regime after WW2, or at least not a significant number, especially not otherwise normal people. I’ve ordered a copy of the book

        • @metaldream@sopuli.xyz
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          42 months ago

          It was the generation after the Nazis that did all the work to redeem Germany. The Nazis themselves never admitted that what they did was wrong, even when it destroyed their own country.

          And of course they felt free. To the mediocre, the hateful, and the weak-minded, “freedom” means power over others, and the Nazis gave their supporters a tiny bit of that power.

      • ᴍᴜᴛɪʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴡᴀᴠᴇ
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        22 months ago

        Ordinary Men is another very good one. It uses testimony from after the war to establish the story of a real life German police unit and their commander who were ordered to start mass killing.

    • @margaritox@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      bUt wE hAvE oUr oWn PrObLeMs. tHiS dOeSn’T cOnCeRn Us.

      Fucking shameful and depressing. Makes me realize that slogans like “never again” are not at all realistic because they’ll always be idiots who think shit doesn’t concern them, until it does.

    • Lit
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      Krasnov Trump scammed his investors, loans and bankrupted his casinos. He is doing the same to US to enrich himself.

  • @KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee
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    172 months ago

    I’m surprised it took this long. He’s already selling U.S. citizenship to Russian mobsters, so why not let them run wild and finish what you started - destroying America.

    • @60d@lemmy.ca
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      32 months ago

      …and inviting Russians into the oval to watch and report to president Putin as he bullies Zelenskyy. Good job, Murca, and good job, VP Krasnov. Vance did a good job too.

    • matlag
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      61 month ago

      It’s more subtle. Technically they won, but while they were winning, Russia was buying the power in US. Weird situation now where the winner becomes a vassal state of the loser…

    • Brumefey
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      121 month ago

      From Europe it’s crazy seeing the USA getting so close to authoritarian regimes, and so far from democratic ones.

      • Goldholz
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        51 month ago

        Its not that crazy. It was founded on the principle that a select few have lots of power.

  • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    602 months ago

    In Europe many leaders still claim USA is our most important ally. I wonder if they say it.hoping it will make it true, or if they really still believe it?

    • @Daemonia@lemmy.world
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      102 months ago

      Many EU leaders like to pretend things are just fine when they’re not because it’s easier than dealing with the problem. We got lulled into a false sense of security the past few decades and being woken up so rudely seems to be difficult for our lazy asses.

    • @samus12345@lemm.ee
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      152 months ago

      They say it because saying the truth (that they’re an enemy of all democratic countries) is seen as too risky when they remain so intertwined with other countries worldwide. There are US military bases all over the world, for example.

    • @FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee
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      182 months ago

      With the number of nukes the US has, and the impulsiveness of people in charge, it might be safer to keep calling it an ally

      • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        402 months ago

        We don’t call Russia an ally just because they have nukes.
        If USA lift sanctions on Russia, they are working against NATO interests, and against a world of law, and against democracy.
        That cannot be an ally of Europe, and we shouldn’t sugarcoat it.

        • MonsterMonster
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          Here in the UK people have been asking privately if Trump is a Russian asset. It is now being asked openly in the mainstream media.

          • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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            Seems to me very likely that he is, why else would he have such a hard-on for Russia?
            Why else would he blurt so much bullshit about Ukraine being corrupt, and Zelenskyy a dictator? When we know Russia is very corrupt an a totalitarian country!
            There are dozens of examples of similar bullshit comments by Trump, Musk and JD Vance. They are all in it, USA has been taken over by Russian and/or Chinese agents.

  • MonsterMonster
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    1312 months ago

    Is this being reported in the US in the mainstream media?

    The possibility of a US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.

    • Match!!
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      582 months ago

      a lot of Americans acknowledge a coup happened about a month ago

    • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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      152 months ago

      It doesn’t look like it’s being reprinted yet. Reuters just published the story about two hours ago.

    • @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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      212 months ago

      The possibility of a US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.

      A US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.

    • IninewCrow
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      772 months ago

      Possibility? … this coup is more like watching moss grow over concrete … it’s taking time but it will soon cover everything and everyone is making it as hot and moist as possible to speed up the process

  • Echo Dot
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    11 month ago

    The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.

    Yeah that’s definitely the reason they’re doing it.