People are storming the streets and town halls, Elon is dissolving the whole country and Trump is busy tending Putin’s toes. Where the fuck are the democrats in all this crisis? It feels AOC is doing all the heavylifting while all the rest of them smug bunch are just watching with “told ya dis was gunn happen” drawn on their face.

Please tell me my ignorant ass is just blatantly wrong because I ain’t getting any news.

  • MudMan
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    I mean, they DID tell you dis was gunn happen. Twice.

    Spent four years drilling “but her emails” into your thick skulls and then you did it again because egg prizes or Gaza or Cheney or whatever.

    Takes balls to sit out the rise of fascism, but let’s be honest, it’s not undeserved.

    • themeatbridge
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      “Deserved” is a bit loaded. Americans are exceptionally stupid and ill-informed, but that applies to our elected leaders, as well.

      Does someone who is easily manipulated deserve to be manipulated? If so, isn’t that precisely the form of myopic conservativism that has overrun the right wing? Government for the people, by the people, is intended to protect all the people and enshrine our rights. Protecting victims from predators ought to be a primary function of law, and if you don’t believe that, then yeah you deserve the leadership we got.

    • @distantsounds@lemmy.world
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      Biden DID say he was not going to run a 2nd time. Biden broke many promises, gaslit voters on Gaza, and was a televised corpse at the debate. trump is fucking terrible but Biden slow walked it back to trump by not giving another candidate enough time to run a campaign. It takes balls to think Biden could stand up against fascism when he can’t even stand up to genocide. This is deserved, but the voters never had a chance.

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        What in the absolute hell does that even mean? How does that work? There was an election, there were two candidates, one was Trump. There WAS a chance. An obvious choice, at that.

        Should Biden not have run in the first place? Obviously. Whether his approach to Gaza would have change anything is debatable (he’d have been crucified regardless), but let’s say it would.

        It wasn’t Biden who had to “stand up against fascism”. It was the electorate. And they didn’t. You talk about it like it was not their choice, like it was an oopsie inflicted upon them by evil Dems and not a choice they made. They continue to make, in fact. That is insane.

        As democracy gets eroded I will be more likely to cut them some slack, but as of now? Anybody that didn’t vote for Harris is a collaborationist.

  • @zephorah@lemm.ee
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    Congress is in charge of the money. I think they need Johnson acting to do anything about Elon though.

    Someone more up on the mechanics should clarify.

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    Not owning a branch of government has never stopped republicans. They would rather get dragged out kicking and screaming. Democratic politicians have largely abandoned their voting base and claim their hands are tied and there’s nothing they can do, because they are too used to being able to just skate on through without much experience fighting from a disadvantage.

    They can do things like organizing their voter base to fight back in constructive ways and pass local legislation, unify the party on voting for certain politicians, inform their voters about special elections, bills and places they can help out, push a more populist and or progressive agenda, and stop fucking abandoning and lying to their own voter base. They need to be willing to physically lead their constituents

    Republicans are so cohesively brainwashed because the republicans have been targeting media and disinformation for decades. They organize extremely well at the local level, and are willing to do almost anything for power.

    The democrats need to show equal fervor for defending democracy and they’ve just been cowards so far, telling people to just vote and tell their family to vote democrats, essentially telling us, “we cant do anything so its your problem and responsibility now”

    ETA: democrats had 4 years to plan and time to come up with a response to Project 2025. Its weird to me everyone just took “oh its not trumps plan” at face value.

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    The best thing that Democrats can do is come up with a popular governing vision and then storm back in the 2026 midterms.

    Personally I would think this would have to compromise on immigration and the worst culture war excesses of the left, while emphasizing support for the working class and most importantly good governance.

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    You didn’t vote for the Democrats. Why would they do anything for you?

    The literal basis of American democracy is you get what you vote for. So this is what you wanted.

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        This is what Americans voted for.

        Also a lot of people here on Lemmy shit all over Democrats and then they lose and then ask why Democrats aren’t doing anything for them. Talk about entitled. Lmao.

        • @november@lemmy.vg
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          Hey real quick, what country do you live in? Just gonna look up what kinds of atrocities your government has committed and accuse you personally of being complicit.

        • @retrieval4558@mander.xyz
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          This is the same stupid rationale that people use to say that everyone in red states deserves to suffer.

          The people who made affirmative votes for trump are the minority, it just so happens that our political system gives them a disproportionate say.

          Yes, there is a large part of the population that didn’t vote, but that’s a feature of our shitty system, not a bug.

          So either help, or shut the fuck up and get out of the way.

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            If you don’t vote and it bites you in the ass you only have yourself to blame. Lmao.

  • SatansMaggotyCumFart
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    The american voters gave republicans the presidency, the senate and the house.

    They also got control of the SCOTUS so the democrats don’t have many options right now.

    Hopefully the people smarten up for the 2026 midterms and actually vote.

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    They’ve been doing as much as they can, such as stalling votes and filing lawsuits. They have literally no power, so there isn’t much they can do short of committing violence.

    HOWEVER, one thing they could be doing is more attention-grabbing stunts. The octogenarians in party leadership don’t understand that attention is the most valuable commodity these days. If they formed a human shield to block people getting into the Senate chambers to further delay Trump’s nominees, they’d get heaps of attention and far fewer people would be asking what they’re doing to stop the fascist takeover. At least their objections would be visibly plastered all over TV and social media rather than confined to the vote tallies in the Senate.

    Down the road, when (or if) Trump needs to have actual legislation passed, he’s going to have a major problem in the House. The House Republican caucus can’t agree on what to order for lunch, so they’ll likely need Democratic votes to get any legislation passed. This is the only area where Dems have a modicum of power.

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    There is little the democrats could ever have done to prevent fascism without losing their funding. This is just becoming much more clear now that we are at the advent of fascism.

  • Wren
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    I’m not sure why this is directed solely towards democrats. They’re not the only ones affected by the change towards dictatorship.

    -the better question is:

    What is ANYONE doing to help?

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      If you want the answer to your question, just go read. A lot of people are doing a lot already. It’s just not Washington Democrats.

      But if you want to know why we should be targeting the Democrats, it’s because we know what the Republicans in Washington were able to do when Obama was president and when Biden was present. The Dems have power, but they are pretending that they don’t.

      And we the people are calling out to these Democrats and telling them hey, if you want the country to survive, you need to level up. And if you don’t, and the country does somehow survive anyway, we will make sure to throw you to the curb as soon as we can. But we really do need your help now because the situation is s***.

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        Exactly. Republicans don’t have a filibuster proof super majority in the Senate so Dems could filibuster the Senate to death to block Trump appointments from being voted on like Republicans did to Dems, but no, rich white liberals aren’t hurt by Trump’s fascism so they don’t care

    • @BenLeMan@lemmy.world
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      Like who? The Republicans have bought into his death cult wholesale. Their god-emperor can do no wrong.

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    I was actually thinking about this. What if Trump is just a Martin shkreli

    Hear me out. The board of directors for pharma used Martin as a Patsy to do something illegal. Martin takes the heat while the board reaps the benefits and they throw Martin to the Sharks.

    What if this whole thing was all an act and they’re all using trump as a power grab. He’s tearing it all down and it benefits all of them, Democrat and Republican. When trump leaves, there will be so much power given to the owner class in the country while regulation and oversight is not what it was.

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      This is essentially what trump is doing with musk. He’s going to"fire" musk as soon as he’s done enough damage then go back to claiming he’s making America great by rehiring people to replace the ones musk is firing. Only the replacements won’t be as competent then leave the crippled departments to the Dems and republicans will say “look at how poorly the Dems are running the place”

      • @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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        I think it’s the other way around. Rich people like Musk helped trump reach the white house. Now they’re making him do their bidding. Trump isn’t the master like his base thinks. He’s a puppet for the rich.