His group spent nearly $1 million on ads opposing Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Donald Trump’s pick to lead the nation’s health agencies. He’s delivering speeches urging the president to stand with longstanding foreign allies and lobbying members of Congress while aides write letters and opinion columns.

This weekend, he posted an article he penned more than a decade ago on the limits of presidential power after Trump claimed that, “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.”

Mike Pence is emerging as one of the last Republicans in Washington willing to publicly criticize the new administration.

It’s an especially jarring role for the former vice president, whose refusal to break with Trump defined their time together in office until the two had a falling out over Trump’s refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election and his efforts to remain in power.

  • AmidFuror
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    If you read the article, Pence was opposed to RFK Jr because he was previously pro-choice. Pence’s priorities are still deplorable.

    • @JesusTheCarpenter@feddit.uk
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      Yes. Policy is something to criticize politicians for. But he at least comes across as someone that draws the line at the destruction of the rule of law in USA and I guess that’s count for something.

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    This worthless cunt can’t do shit. And he’s no less a traitor than the rest of the republican filth.

    • @blakenong@lemmings.world
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      Right. He is, at most, wagging his finger. What does he think wagging a finger at a Nazi is really going to accomplish

  • I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Trump didn’t quote it so he’s taking full credit for the statement. That just shows you who we’re dealing with. No couth

  • @ATDA@lemmy.world
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    It’s wild that like Pence the farmers, minorities, and other Trump supporters have to literally be threatened with their lives or livelihood to get the fucking message he doesn’t fucking care about anyone but himself and those that benefit him in a given instant.

  • Snot Flickerman
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    I guess the whole “Hang Mike Pence” thing really stuck in his craw.

    The old guard Republicans are just mad the power is being taken from them.

    They built this fucking monster, they get to own it. So fuck you Mike Pence, own this shit.

    • @glimse@lemmy.world
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      Nah, I’ll happily take a disillusioned Republican who want to fight. The more the merrier, really. They’re in no position for a redemption arc but still it’s good to have them on our side right now

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        Why? So they can betray you at a critical junction to claim power for themselves, or so you can betray them without feeling too guilty about it?

        Because you sure as hell can’t work with them on any leftist projects. They have zero desire to unconcentrate the accumulated power in Washington, only to claim it for themselves.

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          I’m not interested in building a bridge here, it’s too little too late for that.

          But hearing the other team’s fans booing their coach? I’m here for it.

          • @MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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            The problem is we have to build bridges. We have to get the working classes organized to stop this. We cannot afford to turn away allies.

            • @glimse@lemmy.world
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              Build bridges with the voters, not Mike Pence or any other Republican politicians who changed sides too late.

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        He’s got nothing to lose and secret service protection. And he has no power to do shit to stop Trump either. He just has some shitty podcast that not one reasonable person should have to listen to.

        Edit: autocorrect is shit

        • That secret service protection, for one. Trump’s pulled protection from John Bolton and others. Maybe because he was VP it might be harder legally for Trump to revoke it, but is there anyone still enforcing laws anymore?

        • @glimse@lemmy.world
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          I’m not advocating for parading Pence around as one of us. Any republican speaking out against Trump is a good thing, we need the party to fracture as much as possible.

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            He already was essentially kicked off the party. IMO the old Republican party died with McCain.

            Of course I welcome any opposition, but to MAGA Pence is perceived as another Democrat.

            • @glimse@lemmy.world
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              True but a LOT of Trump voters aren’t MAGA. They voted for him the same way I’ve voted since 2016 - begrudgingly.

              The next election would be a really good time to campaign on ranked choice/approval voting. We’re reaching fever pitch with voter disillusionment.

  • @Tilgare@lemmy.world
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    Enough of this defeatist “too little too late” bullshit. These comments are plagued with you fucks. We need EVERY little rock we can find to get stuck in their gears. We must move forward, so we can either accept defeat or beat back the second coming of Hitler. I don’t think anyone should be shamed for fighting for what’s right.

    • acargitz
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      Akctchually, it was the trees of Fangorn that showed up.

    • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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      That’s how I felt about McCain and Romney during Trump 1.0.

      Overton Window damn near shattered now.

      • @collapse_already@lemmy.ml
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        Pretty sure we’re into the Overton Train Wreck at this point. We have destroyed normalcy so greatly that no headline is implausible and the fear of possible prosecution for any dissent is not unreasonable.

        If I saw the headline, "Trump announces that the only meat that will be served in federal prisons is the flesh of his political enemies. " My reaction would be some sort of numb, “ah cannibalism, already?”

  • @chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
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    Fuck Mike Pence. The Republicans are not going to save us. What we need is for Democrats to challenge Trump.

    • @frezik@midwest.social
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      Democrats are failing at that, too.

      Political parties of any stripe can only slow the spread of fascism, at best. Fascism found a unique vulnerability in American electoral politics, but there are plenty of right wing authoritarian parties popping up in Europe, too. Including AfD in Germany, which should theoretically be the country most inoculated against this sort of thing.

      Ground up organizing of the working class is what saves us. Political parties were only ever going to be a holding action, and nothing more.

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      You think the Democrats can stand against him? They failed spectacularly during the election and many seem stubborn not wanting to change the party platform. They aren’t fighting for the average person and that’s why they lost.

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    Too little too late Mike. The guy tried to have you killed and you still wouldn’t campaign against him with Kamala.