I’m thinking about upgrading my W-Fi and I was curious what wireless access points (WAP) people are using. I’m currently using a Netgear R7800 running OpenWRT.
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I use the tp-link EAP615 wall Apps, they are great and run OpenWRT like a champ.
Fritzbox boxes.
They tick all the checkboxes
- good standards support (including dect protocol if you want to have an ip phone or even iot protocols)
- fast wifi speeds
- cheap (at least for the second hand in ebay)
- super stable, never had a problem with them in 5 years or more
- fast roaming support out of the box
It is a well known brand in Germany but pretty unknown outside that country. Honestly it is the best bang for buck I was able to get.
Honestly, I would spend 10 minutes checking on them
I really like them but they do have two downsides for “more advanced” users (or at least for me) - it is a home device as after all.
- No support for VLAN or VLAN tagging - you can set up you WiFi and a guest WiFi. You can also map the guest network to an Ethernet port. But that’s about it.
- There is no way to change the DNS suffix (*. fritz.box) to another value - I do own a domain that I use for the local services on my home server, etc. which then allows for Let’s Encrypt certificates, but I cannot use it “out of the box”.
If you’re an advanced user, there’s plenty of ways around that, though. I just wished that these two thing were to exist in the firmware to have less work with my home infrastructure.
Totally agree with the first point, it is a limitation, and the guest wifi sticking to a eth port is just a patch. One that works but still a patch.
But I don’t see the point of the prefixes. What do you mean? I also have a custom domain and a local dns server y can use the domain even internally. I just simple ignore that…
Yeah, I’m also using a local resolver. But since I had some problems using another DHCP server (which was probably a problem on my end), so I’m current setting some devices in my FRITZ!box to a fixed IP and then enter that in my DNS server. If I could just skip the second part and tell the FRITZ!Box to just resolve printserver.example.com instead of printserver.fritz.box - that’d be nice. Maybe I should do another try with a DHCP server soon.
Damn those are some serious limitations for an AP.
I purchases a few Netgear R6220, and of course flashed OpenWRT on all of them!
Great hardware, cheap, and perfectly supported. A few years old, so I could even find them used at an amazing price point.
TP link EAP’s and i run the omada software controller on an existing server. Right now I have 3 AP’s and it’s been a great experience so far compared to running consumer wifi routers before. All are on ethernet too.
Same, I needed to expand my Wi-Fi and was to lazy to run an Ethernet and a power cable across the attic. I settled for two TP-Link EAP and a TP-Link managed switch that also provides PoE. You can run all three devices stand alone, but Omada is also quite nice - you can run it without using their cloud on your home server and even connect their app to your local controller.
Ruckus APs with wired backhaul OpnSense box runs the network.
Is Ruckus not crazy expensive? We used it for customers and they are like €500 an access point.
Used on eBay and flashed with the Unleashed firmware. It’s the same price range as Ubiquiti stuff.
Used 2nd hand sounds great, but the price range online is huge. Which units would you recommend and about how much should I expect to pay for them?
I moved to Rukus from Unifi and the difference is night and day. Unifi does not play nice with Sonos and the firmware is rock solid compared to Unifi.
RT-AX88U it has a ton on high end features
Went all in with UniFi some time back. No regrets.
Currently running a few U6s. No real motivation to upgrade to U7s.
While expensive, UniFi hardware is just a huge step beyond the rest of the consumer market.
I’ve had literally 10x the range (5x vs 50m), in congested environments, compared to ‘gaming’ hardware. I actually did a side by side to test. I was shocked at the difference.
The bridging function is also a life saver. 2 LR units can get a reliable signal between each other, at ridiculous ranges.
+1 on this. Though i picked up 2 u7’s. VLAN support, easy to maintain and lets face it, superior function from most retail APs. If you’re a power user, this is the way.
2nd hand Ruckus.
They’re decent quality that you’d see in a commercial / enterprise setting (so PoE), but Ruckus also have their “Unleashed” firmware which removes the need for a WLC.
I have 2 in a mesh at home and easily support many IoT devices, phones, laptops, etc on multiple SSIDs
Used 2nd hand sounds great, but the price range online is huge. Which units would you recommend and about how much should I expect to pay for them?
I’m using R600 - these are now EOL, so their price should be more reasonable (ie <60 £/$/€) - up to you if you want / need to pay a little more for someone to have flashed Unleashed onto it.
But definitely check there’s a download of Ruckus Unleashed for the model you want.
Thanks. That’s helpful. I decided to get an R720 I found on Ebay for $60. I’m not sure if it was a good choice but I’m excited to try it out!
That looks like a better choice if you have multiple clients because of the Wave2 and 4x4, so, yes, should be good… Something I might look at in the future. Enjoy.
Unifi U6 Mesh. Love the form factor
Warning about Unifi and mesh. I’ve done mesh using AC Pro, U6 Pro, AC LR. Any combination produces significant latency spikes that I couldn’t resolve no matter what. Support forums have reports of this problem too without an obvious solution. Maybe the U6 Mesh doesn’t suffer from this. Or maybe you haven’t noticed because you don’t have a sensitive workload. Either way, based on my anecdote, I’d caution against doing mesh with Unifi.
You know, I’ve always attributed it to wifi shenanigans. Never crossed my mind that it was a hardware fault.
Thankfully in my household I have a rule, if it’s not handheld, it’s s wired. So thankful we don’t have much issues with it
My guess is it’s software, since some of these devices have different SoCs. Wasn’t a huge problem. If I remember correctly, the latency was going into tens of ms but not hundreds of ms under load. That was significantly worse than an equivalent R7800 bridge (OpenWrt WDS) where latency increases insignificantly, but it isn’t bad enough to notice in most applications but things like FPS games. VoIP doesn’t like latency spikes but I think it needs hundreds of ms to appear as an audible problem.
I have one of the mikrotik hap things because it was cheap.
I have 2x Tplink EAP 610 access points. Linking back to an Opnsense virtualized router. The APs are great and Omada is fantastic - I’m running it in a docker container with no cloud access required.
I would go all Omada if I could but that would mean I’d need 3 POE Omada switches and I cant justify that cost at the moment.
And sadly Omada is years behind in their gateway/Firewall. OPNsense is far better in that regard, going back to a Omada gateway is like going back to a tricycle when you drive a car. Sadly.
I was meaning their switches. I didn’t know they did routers / firewalls. Interesting that they’re not as advanced as their other offerings which are really good. My opnsense setup has taken years to hone and I have no desire to start over with that.
Its not for everyone but I use Cisco Aironet APs with a virtual wireless LAN controller. Ubiquiti is popular among the community. They’re cost effective and work well in a home/small business environment. Aruba InstantOn are decent as well from my experience, but they’re cloud managed and this is self-hosted after all :)
I’ve extensively used Cisco, Meraki, Fortinet, Cambium, Aruba, Ubiquiti and Juniper in a professional setting. Avoid Fortinet and Cambium APs if you can, my experience is that they can be pretty unstable.
Generally speaking if you’re going to have multiple APs, you’ll want something that’s centrally managed so the APs are able to be aware of each other and manage clients effectively.
I wanted cheap and OpenWRT, so I got some GLinet Shadows. It has it’s own GUI, but if you go into Advanced Settings, you get the usual OpenWRT Luci interface.
You can set them up as APs or repeaters, and have failover connections. Pretty versatile and easy to use.
Been happy with unifi stuff for a long time now.
Get yourself some old cisco 3600 re-flash it with standalone firmware and get enterprise class WAP for cheap.
That one seems to be WiFi 4 (and upgradable to WiFi 5) so probably not a good choice for someone with a half decent internet connection.
