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Summary
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.
The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.
Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.
Hamas also criticized the decision.
The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.
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Do they think nobody is going to replace them and resume the conflict?
Then why would we persecute anyone? Maybe give that take one more round of thought.
Not everyone we persecute is in a leadership position with high amounts of pressure from the population to do the things we’re punishing them for.
He should be arrested and given a quick trial and hanged.
Imprisonment for live is the highest possible sentence.
Wasn’t Sadam Houssein sentenced to death?
That wasn’t the ICC, it was the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal, set up by the US.
Sadly.
I heard that Bibi stubbed his toe on an antisemetic table this morning.
Bibi has a table that prevents vomiting? What else is that bastard hiding?!
Lmao thanks for pointing out the typo. Or perhaps it’s the zionists that keep making a mistake and are trying to tell us that ending the genocide in Gaza helps them throw up less?
Who’d have thunk that 2000 years of conflict was all a misunderstanding about spelling…
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Who’d have thunk that 2000 years of conflict …
It hasnt been 2000 years of conflict. Thats a zionist propganda talking point filthy lie, and shame on you for bringing lies here. Go to reddit with that crap.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire
The experience of Jews in the Ottoman Empire is particularly significant because the region “provided a principal place of refuge for Jews driven out of Western Europe by massacres and persecution.”
The Ottoman empire was there until recently, spanning 800 years and jewish people were safe and prospered. Its only since the zionists surged back that its been a shitshow. Going back 2000 years, it was a shitshow when the zealot faction of judaism (which is exactly the same faction as modern zionists) committed mass genocide of greeks and romans in the region to establish a jewish state on roman territory and then were put down hard by the romans.
Anyone who criticizes Netanyahu is immediately called antisemitic.
It’s honestly a pathetic shield to hide behind.
Anyone putting netanyahu and hamas in the same category, gets it.
Those warrants aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, but it’s still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.
Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!
These warrants absolutely matter in terms of being a trumo card in several legal issues relating to EU-Israel relations.
It’s a nice thought. I won’t hold my breath expecting any real consequences for Israel, though.
The saddest thing is that if they do take action, it will be the lowest bar possible of accountability. They’ll for example ban products from illegal settlements and then let Israel redurect them anyways.
Not exactly. The ratifying countries are bound by contract to arrest them. Plus It’s a serious issue not to do it, because this would delegitimize the ICC as an institution, which is not in the interest of most ratifying countries. So it essentially boils down to a choice between losing the court as a valuable weapon against war criminals or bad relations with Israel.
What happens after an arrest is another matter and I think that is where the real pressure would happen
“Bound by contract”, lol…
Are you familiar with Donald Trump?
The US isn’t part of the ICC because we commit too many war crimes.
Not really, if a group of spies got together and kidnapped him to a country that respects the ICC he would be arrested. Just like this
Cue “ICC is antisemitic”, just like the ICJ, the UN, every human rights organisation, the Special Rapporteur, independent journalists, protestors etc etc.
Antisemitism and victimhood are the only cards left for Zio fascists to play with.
Zio fascists
*nazis
The original Nazis would always claim that they represented the Arian Race and that any criticism of them was “against the Arian Race” and the Zionists, a Neue Nazi group, do the same only using a different ethnicity.
This is far from the only way in which these Neue Nazis are the same as the original Nazis.
He’s really fucking up the antisemitic thing for the rest of us. The wolf crier isn’t a monolith and he’s diluting an important communication tool.
Finally… it was about time!
Well the ICC won’t let me be or let me be me so we’ll just see. – Benjamin Netanyahu
Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants (of the ICC)
Uh, ok?
God they really just play the antisemitism card for everything
I remember when the people who said ‘if you call everything Nazism, then what are you going to do when the real Nazis arrive’ ended up being Nazis themselves… who did not shy away from calling their opposition fascist and Nazis even when they were wearing Swastikas on them.
Zionists are the same. The exact same. They are remarkably antisemitic (look up the founder of Zionism, Theodor Herzl. The guy was a RAGING antisemite!) but at the same time throw that accusation left and right at anything that even remotely disapproves of their actions.
It’s the only card they have
I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.
Pretty sure if he ever sets foot in South America he’ll be arrested
If Trump plans on doing everything he says he’s going to do he’s going to expend his political capital rather quickly, and likely meet more resistance than he may be able to handle, domestically and internationally.
International war crimes, mass deportations, curtailing the rights of queer people and women, deleting entire government departments, introducing tariffs. Also being in Russia’s pocket, then adding pressure from other big actors like China, Ukraine, and Iran into the mix. That’s a lot to juggle and many of America’s long-standing allies may no longer be willing to fully back the new mask off fascist regime.
Netanyahu may just become a liability.
Does anyone know how the dimwit lawn torch carrying maga bros square hatred of jews with backing of zionists? Do they just never speak of it? I have a hard time pictruring them sitting in a circle in front of a fire drinking bad domestic beer, talking about the nuances of politics or any sort of long term strategy. Maybe they just push it down and ignore it? Or maybe they hate brown and black skin more than white jewish skin?
For the maga leadership its obviously about money, but the voters?? Anyone have experience here?
At least with America going full mask off as a force of evil, the rest of the world can stop waiting on us to do the right thing.
I think the mask truly went off in 2003. Dubya was an international terrorist in the highest office of the world.
That was really Cheney, his handler.
Don’t worry though, Dems are buddies with the Cheney family now. Those Republican votes for Kamala are going to turn up any day now.
Seriously if anything good can come from this the U.S. needs to stop fucking around with other countries sovereignty and handle it’s own affairs for a few decades.
Look at what happened to Brazil during trump’s presidency. JCPOA. Paris climate accord. The bullshit always overflows.
There is number of countries already said they would.
“The Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, and Spain all said they would meet their commitments and obligations regarding the Rome Statute and International Law.”
Better late than never, for all the good it will do…
How’s that working out?
I mean it’s done quite a lot to diplomatically isolate them, right? Putin couldn’t go to South Africa for BRICS, he couldn’t attend the G20 summit this week, and presumably lots of other trips he hasn’t done that he would have otherwise intended to
In Israel’s case, I expect this will be a pain for Netanyahu more than it has been for Putin, since the set of countries that are neither ICC signatories nor actively hostile to Israel is a pretty short list
He’ll still go back and forth to the US without issue I’d imagine.
It would be a shame if his plane had engine issues and was forced to land in an ICC country. Just a shame.
Yes indeed, sadly the US is not a signatory
He wasn’t able to travel to Brazil for this reason. I’d say its working
The name of the game is sanctions. Russian can sustain itself under “nuclear” sanctions. Sanction Israel, and the comfortable lifestyle of illegal Lebensraum settlers will start to look rather unattractive.
ICC charges are directed at individuals, not entire countries. They wouldn’t justify sanctions for the same reason governments don’t sanction Saudi Arabia for being the home of bin Laden.
I couldn’t think of a more absurd analogy. If Osama Bin Laden was Saudi Arabia’s head of state, and 9/11 was carried out by the Saudi military, and Saudi was party to the Rome Statute, then maybe you make such an analogy. As it actually stands, Netanyahu’s crimes were carried out by the state of Israel and that certainly has legal bearing inside the EU’s courts, with very recent precedent - sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest warrant for Putin. And Russia is not even party to the Rome Statute - the state of Israel is, and would be violating by not giving Netanyahu up.
crimes were carried out by the state
The same is true of others facing ICC charges. For example, Hamas leaders face ICC charges, but that does not justify sanctions against Palestine.
sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest
Sanctions against Russia couldn’t cite the ICC charges, because they began long before Putin was charged by the ICC.
the state of Israel is
Like the US and Russia, Israel is not a party to the Rome Statute.
How would you sanction Gaza? It’s already blockaded and being starved to death.
Hamas leaders face ICC charges, but that does not justify sanctions against Palestine.
The EU does not recognize Hamas as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian Territories. It defines it as a non-state actor and a terror group, so what you said is also a terrible analogy. I don’t know why you keep using the word “justify”. Do you mean legally or morally? Sanctions would be targetted at specific individuals, firms and military/government components, not the state of Israel as such.
Sanctions against Russia couldn’t cite the ICC charges, because they began long before Putin was charged by the ICC.
Packages 11-14 were all issued after the ICC judgement. European Commission’s statements on the ICC warrant speak quite clearly about Russian culpability, not just Putin’s culpability.
Biden is lucky he didnt get included in the warrant.
If there was any justice that guy would be frying on the electric chair. Conspiracy to commit genocide is a capital offense in the US.
