profane language is the word ‘fuck’.
this is not yelling ‘fuck’ at the top of your lungs, but more like ‘aah, fuck’, meaning why do things have to be this complicated? or, why didn’t coworker X did his job as he was supposed to? Why is this documentation not in order?
Have you ever been fired over this? reprimanded at work?
I use ‘fuck’ a lot, not to intimidate anyone, but each time something bothers me, I could as well use ‘come on!!’ but ‘fuck’ comes to me more naturally.
If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?
To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?
It’s pretty common in Australia, so long as we’re not swearing at people nobody gives a fuck. I’d say unless your manager has mentioned it to you, it’s not a huge deal.
the profanity flies frequently at my place of work. we do give writeups if our employees are saying that in front of customers.
except for me, because I don’t curse (out loud). in fact if I start doing it everyone around me would actually be worried if I was okay.
I have avoided that so far but I have had a few faa’s and shii’s and such where I stopped myself.
Yes but it was never unpaired from a provocative utterance from someone else mirroring the severity and crudeness of my own words
ITT: American HR vs the world.
I curse all the time and once I’ve even said “you’re a dickhead” to the boss. Nobody cares
lucky you
“Fuck” isn’t profane, it’s vulgar. “Goddamn” is profane.
I once got fired for changing the title of my personal homepage of our ticketing software to “Fuck this fucking shithole”. Bosses found out when they cloned my account for testing while I was on vacation.
In their defense, it was pretty stupid of me to do that. In my defense, fuck that fucking shithole.
If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?
To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?
Germany here. We have explicit laws protecting workers.
If the company wants to terminate your contract, then there are only a limited number of specific reasons that are allowed. And then they must observe a notice period usually (1-2 months). The worker can easily go to court against it (costs are moderate) to have it checked.
If they want to fire you immediately (all subsidiaries of foreign corporations usually want that, and most of the German big corpos too), they can suspend you from working, but you still get your pay until the end of the notice period, or you can make a termination agreement that ends the contract immediately and you get all that money (plus maybe a little more, negotiable) at once.
And there is another way: if you have severely violated your duties, then they can terminate you immediately, without paying any longer.
But it is only with very serious violations, where they can argue that it isn’t tolerable for the company to have to endure you any longer. Many such events actually go to court afterwards, so they really have to be careful to do it right.
If the violation was not so severe, they can give you an official warning, usually in writing. You can also go to court against the warning, and the court can nullify it, if it was wrongful.
If you have received a warning and it was valid and afterwards you do the same violation again, then they can also terminate you immediately. And again, you can go to court to have it checked, like above.
If I’d be in trouble fr saying fuck or swearing in general, I’d be in trouble. I’m a software developer and I have to deal with shit like Microsoft products (any of them) and my own code as well. Good hing i speak enough languages to curse with variety and make it harder for people to know what I say
At my job? No. That would not happen.
And it’s funny you ask about outside the US because the way I learned this was our head of finance in Germany was visiting and as I passed the office where he was I heard him talking and it was just fucking this, fucking that, fuck so many times just in the time it took me to pass the office.
Now should you be cussing out customers? No, of course not. But no one in my office bats an eye and we often hear “what the fuck, Microsoft?!” when something doesn’t work.
I once described a rather sharp bit of cold weather to my boss by explaining that I was “shaking like a shitting dog”. He merely agreed.
It was a fucker that day, mind you.
My boss told me verbally “don’t call your colleague a fascist by email or anything else that leaves a record”, so that was nice of him.
What behaviour was this colleague exhibiting that made you forget to never put anything unofficial in writing?
-I got detention in high school after a teacher overheard a friend of mine asking me if we had homework and i said, “fuck if I know.” Worth it, lol. -I got fussed at working in retail if they heard me swear but never officially written up
-at my first accounting job the controller screamed FUCK from inside her office once. Swearing was generally fine here
-current job i said “fuck yeah” in a meeting with no consequence. Swearing is generally fine so long as it’s not within earshot of approximately 2 specific people.
I swear… a lot. All the time. I do attempt, at least, to be mindful of the when and where, which is working out for me so far.
Edit: reading comprehension failure, I’m usa lol
if you’re trying to make new lines it has to have 2 spaces at the end
jggrphdjrhyene proving that it works
