• @Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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      The volume held by investment firms and the like is large in a sheer numbers sense, but virtually nothing in terms of its percentage of the whole sum of residential real estate.

      The fact is that we have been lagging in the supply side for decades and the Great Recession and then the COVID Pandemic cut new builds even more drastically. There simply isn’t supply available to address the demand at a reasonable and accessible price.

          • @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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            Okay, but your assertion was that there are not enough homes currently to support our population if they weren’t traded as a commodity. In NYC alone there are over 3.6 Million Housing Units and a population of 8,258,035, with about half of the units being rental and about 1/20 being vacant.

            You haven’t provided any evidence that there aren’t enough housing units in the USA.

            A decline in housing project expansion is meaningless without context of how many are actually in use.

            • @Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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              There are over 145,000,000 housing units in the United States.

              Urban centers should have drastically more rental units than urban, exurban, and rural tracts. An unoccupied rate of 5% is pretty good to cover units in transition.

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                So if an average of 2-3 people are in a home there are enough. Since our current system puts home ownership just out of reach, selling former rental properties and properties owned by overseas investors would probably be the bump we need.

                I’m worried that large developments could be harmful to the environment and a waste of resources.

      • @Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world
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        Even a small percentage is good. The situation is desperate.

        The fewer first time home owners that get out bid by corps the better. Doesn’t matter if it is a drop in the bucket.

        And that’s even before considering how it would help stop housing from being an investment vehicle.

  • @kandoh@reddthat.com
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    Building those houses means current homeowners would miss out on hundreds of thousands of dollars when they eventually sell their homes.

    If you were to ask most politicians to describe their constituents, they would said ‘married, kids, two cars, and a house with a mortgage’. That’s who they are looking after, that’s their priority. You are not considered a real person or a focus unless you fall into the above description.

    • @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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      210 months ago

      Are you serious? Who do you think would buy these houses? First-time buyers with cobbled-together financing, or massive corporations offering more than (inflated) asking price?

      Legislation banning selling of homes to corporations. That’s the only thing that will solve the housing crisis, and permanently. If we’re asking for it and not getting it, it’s because our legislators are invested in the shell game…

    • @lengau@midwest.social
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      Where are those houses? I know of plenty of empty houses going for cheap, but they don’t tend to be in areas with many jobs or amenities.

      • @Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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        People misunderstand this stat for both single-family homes and apartments. These are not “sitting empty” they are unused and in a transitional state between occupants. This number is also consistent with the gross number historically and is actually below the average in percentage.

        • @errer@lemmy.world
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          Well, some are definitely sitting empty for extended periods. But your point is well taken, there are what, 200m homes in the US? If they are vacated on average every 5 years because of a move, then if those homes are on the market for a month on average you’d have 200m/60 ~ 3.5m homes sitting empty at any given time.

  • @TheShadow277@slrpnk.net
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    2810 months ago

    Maybe just redistribute some wealth? The richest nation in the world can afford to home everyone. Homelessness is a policy decision.

    • @Etterra@lemmy.world
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      Well I mean they’re still going to need to build the houses, which of course would drop the price of the houses, so there’s more to it than just robbing from the rich. Mind you, robbing from the rich is still step one.

  • Chemical Wonka
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    1510 months ago

    or better yet, overcome neoliberalism, the cursed legacy of Ronald Reagan

    • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      How many are vacant? Those are the first ones that need to be reallocated.

      (Meaning, I’m not pro equity firm, I’m saying an occupied house is a house that is occupied. These 2mil new houses are for new occupants, not shuffled ones.)

      • @elrik@lemmy.world
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        410 months ago

        I think the key point is ownership. If the house is owned by an equity firm, even if it’s occupied it still counts as a house which could instead be owned by, well, homeowners.

    • @sudo42@lemmy.world
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      What’s to keep Equity firms from buying those 2 million homes? Won’t that just leave us back where we are now?

      Do we think we can build more homes than Equity firms can spend other people’s money on?

  • @Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
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    Nope. Just need to force all landlords to sell. Make tax on rent ruinous. Tax additional homes. Make it illegal for corporations to own residential property.

    • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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      Home ownership is 65%.

      That’s 65% of homes are occupied by the owners, not 65% of the population owns their home.

      Those are wildly different things and people keep using the former in a likely attempt to portray the latter as much higher than it really is.

      In fact, that second statistic is impossible to find as every article or study from a mainstream or even semi mainstream source uses only the misleading one.

      Tl; dr:

      “How many homes are occupied by their owners” ≠ “How many people own their home”

      Addendum: That almost 35% of all homes are owned by someone who doesn’t live there shouldn’t be a point of pride…

        • @dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
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          That is the percentage of homes owned by the people living in them, not the percentage of Americans who own homes.

          Over a third (35%) of single family homes are owned by landlords, not by the people living in them. When a third of your single family homes are not owned by single families, then there is an issue.

          The 26% number another person used might be percentage of US adults who own a home, but I can’t find that number anywhere. The difference is most single family homes have 2 adults (or more) but is only “owned” by one of them. Or that is a statistic that uses multi-family housing where most of the families are renters.

          • @ramble81@lemm.ee
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            Doesn’t technically the bank own it until you pay off your mortgage? I’d be curious how many have the titles to their house.

            • @dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
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              I had actually put that info in my post but deleted it. It’s around 34% that own their house outright without a loan.

  • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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    “An influx of immigrants in the country also isn’t helping the housing affordability equation as it has in the past.”

    Go fuck yourself business insider. The ol’ “America is full” bit is it? The Great Enemy: the poor immigrant who is going to steal your piss poor paying job, but somehow also “steals” your super fucking overpriced house that even natural born citizens with full time jobs can’t afford.

    Get fucked.

  • @ssj2marx@lemmy.ml
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    :geordi-no: build 2 million homes

    :geordi-yes: seize 2 million homes that aren’t owned by those who live in them

    • @Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world
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      110 months ago

      And Geordi would probably canonically agree, at least with the second bit. Just finished reading Picard the Last Best Hope, and Geordi had no problem taking over the ship yards of Mars to build a fleet to save Romulans.