• @immutable@lemm.ee
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    419 hours ago

    It’s extremely interesting to watch them give trump leeway here. I saw polling recently that many of the trump faithful believe that the tariffs will bring short term pain but it will be worth it for the long term benefits.

    What’s going to turbo suck is that they will take the exact wrong lesson from this. It will enforce their short term thinking because they will remember this time that they experienced short term pain for long term gain and the gain never materialized.

    I just wish we had the ability as a society to have a more nuanced conversation than sound bites. Ok we disagree about tariffs, one side thinks they are real fucking dumb and the other thinks they are great and will have long term benefits. It would be amazing if we could have an adult conversation about this, how it’s expected to work, how likely that is, what issues might be in the way, etc.

    Perhaps it’s decades of being an engineer, but I propose designs that are meant to achieve goals and other engineers check my work, ask questions about things I might not have considered, help play out scenarios that aren’t accounted for and at the end of that we have a better design. As a nation we now seem so incapable of having an honest dialogue between the two major parties that not only are we advancing ideas that obviously won’t work but it’s clear we have no feedback mechanisms to correct course. So now we will just blow up the economy because a group of people think it might, somehow, using mechanisms no one can identify, lead to a future that is “better” where no one can meaningfully define “better.”

    And that’s the state of discourse.

    • @cyphear@lemm.ee
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      112 hours ago

      But that would mean questioning the authority of the government and providing verifiable facts. The regime we currently have doesn’t want the betterment of society. They want mindless puppets who will go along with whatever is presented. Historically, people who question authoritative policies are labeled as traitors and enemies of the state, and are silenced so that the poison they spout can’t spread. Fact-checking is now seen as personal attacks and are met with imprisonment and are downplayed, if covered at all.