I’m aware and meant what I said.

If the Tesla board has any intelligence left, they will push him out.

They deserve all the hurt incurred so far for not doing it yet, and will deserve to go under if they don’t in time.

Concepts of a recipe.

Regardless of raw GDP per capita there are wealthier nations who could do this. Norway’s positioning to do so smoothly doesn’t invalidate the decision itself.

Again, if the rest of the world curbed our addiction to fossil fuels they wouldn’t sell as much oil. But as long as they are I’m ok with them using the profits for stuff like this.

Using profits derived from fossil fuels to transition to cleaner technology is exactly what we should be doing.

There are multiple kinds, but that’s not the important part here.

Much of the world does not have the infrastructure to allow for most people to charge their car at home at all is what I meant to say, apartments are a great example. Unfortunately public transit in my area is also not great, so a car is required to do much of anything.

If you can’t go anywhere without a car and you can’t charge your car at home, it becomes difficult to justify an EV. But that’s not the EV’s fault, that’s the fault of our infrastructure failing to keep up.

Ideally public transit would be the solution, but some places aren’t likely to see improvements to that for a while.

Any country could do this, and it’s a bigger start than most are making. I think the “barely any effort” bit was relative compared to what other, bigger, richer countries are prioritizing instead.

Maybe it’s not literally effortless but compared to other countries, yeah.

I’m not trying to give them a free pass at selling oil or anything, but this is a much better use of the profits compared to other countries.

I’d rather see a country exporting fossil fuels doing something with that money to not use fossil fuels than give it to Billionaires or something.

If more countries followed their example, there wouldn’t be much demand left for that oil.

K bye

My dude you literally just explained why you shouldn’t blame the appliance 😄

I already agreed infrastructure needs to be taken into account when making large purchase decisions.

You can leave this thread any time if what I’ve said upsets you.

I guess I just don’t see things in such a short-sighted way. It makes no sense being mad at a car that plugs in to charge if you bought it knowing full well you can’t do that. It makes no sense to blame a fridge if there’s an electrical outage because the fridge didn’t cause it. It makes no sense to blame your solar panels on a rainy day because your solar panels do not control the weather. While you need to consider the limitations of anything you purchase before you purchase them, blaming the whole package when anything goes wrong is neither helpful nor productive. I don’t blame my car when a charging station is full, I blame our shitty charging infrastructure in this country that causes this problem.

Blame yourself and/or your housing situation if you can’t charge your car, blame the power utility if the power goes out, blame the weather for your bad day of solar power production. In each case, the problem doesn’t lie with the appliance, it lies with the infrastructure (and/or poor planning on the individual’s part). The appliance is working as designed. If that upsets you then you’re never going to be happy with anything.

I can’t believe I just had to say that.

They already gouge to park it, I’d like an outlet pls.

If you buy a vehicle knowing you don’t have the means to fuel it, it’s not the vehicle that’s the problem lol.

I make public charging work, and knew what I was getting into prior to buying it.

If you want to explore the hypothetical of every home in the country suddenly being without power, I would still consider that a failure of our infrastructure/housing more than the vehicle itself. In that situation the vehicle is fine, you just can’t fuel it. You would also have other issues to worry about.

Would you blame your refrigerator for no longer being able to keep your food cool in a power outage as readily as you would your EV for not charging, or would you blame the grid’s inability to deliver reliable power to your home?

BIG EV IS TAKING ALL OUR GAS!!!111

I think we’re just saying the same thing in different ways here.

We can blame lack of EV adoption (in part) on infrastructure reasons, but that itself is no reflection of the vehicle.

OTOH, there are reasons hydrogen vehicles never took off beyond simply infrastructure, so I’m not sure why this example was given.

If there were no gas stations around…. I would blame ICE cars for needing gas

Not the lacking infrastructure?

I agree infrastructure is part of the package of buying the vehicle I’m just not sure why you would blame one for the inconvenience of the other. Why not blame infrastructure for infrastructure problems, and vehicles for vehicle problems?

Hydrogen cars also suffer from an infrastructure issue, yes….among others, mainly just not being competitive with EVs at all because they’re not really any better at anything except for fueling time.

As an EV owner without the convenience of charging at home, I don’t blame the vehicle. There are plenty of other conveniences that come with one to offset the inconvenience of charging elsewhere.

I’m not sure what point you’re making here apart from “this is the world we live in”, which was never really in doubt.

That does nothing to inhibit this achievement.

Maybe if the rest of us got our collective thumbs out of our asses and started curbing our addiction to fossil fuels they wouldn’t have to sell oil to other countries.

Your comment history seems to be fueled by a lot of hate and misinformation.

Myself, and plenty others. It’s completely doable, just less convenient.

Not everyone has a garage or available outlet at home. That is an infrastructure/housing issue, not an EV issue. You wouldn’t blame a lack of convenient gas stations nearby as an issue with an ICE car, would you?

Nowhere near as much of a problem if you keep it plugged in and warm up prior to leaving, which most EVs have a timer feature to do automatically. Gasoline powered vehicles also lose significant range in the cold, it’s just not as noticeable to some because ICE are already extremely inefficient.

Unfortunately this doesn’t help people who can’t charge at home, but that’s an infrastructure/housing issue not an EV issue.

He spent his early years stripping and reapplying paint to LRH’s ship (I think Apollo) and scientologists love smoking because they actually believe it won’t affect them negatively if they’re progressing through their training.

He also spent a lot of time in the hole and exposed to awful living conditions, much worse than the average scientologist which is already pretty horrendous.

It would make sense.

I don’t :/