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As sad as it is, in this case, the press needs to shut the fuck up. Every bit of news is good for Trump. They could have definite proof of him kicking a disabled child or shooting a Maga voter and it would still get him more votes.
So starve him out. Don’t give him a platform. Take away what he needs most, the constant attention. Everything else didn’t work, so this might be worth a try.
No, it would not get him more votes. The main problem for the Democrats are that a lot of non-Trump voters doesn’t vote at all, not that they are suddenly going to turn Trump voters. There has been a consistent non-Trump majority since 2016 after all.
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“Yeah well that 5 year old disabled kid had it coming, he’s a pedophile Democrat communist.”
They honestly can’t help themselves. Most news media in the US is nothing more than a PR firm. You got fired from a billion-dollar corporation for trying to unionize? Fuck it, not news worthy. You made a little less as a landlord because renters struggled during COVID… fuck yeah, now that is news worthy. Poor landlords, poor corporations, Powerball, yada yada.
When are people going to be so fucking gullible? Are they actually trying to inform you on facts, or are they trying to lure you in based on fear and bullshit to push their narratives and revenue-partners?
This is because modern media organizations - especially in the US - are primarily focused on one thing: making money. Sometimes making money conflicts with providing useful information and reporting to the public; in those cases, they overwhelmingly choose money over veracity and the public good, because those last two things aren’t highly profitable, and definitely aren’t profitable in the short term.
From the point of view of media people that are a bit more disconnected from the situation (analysts for Radio-Canada), medias don’t know how to cover Trump and they never managed to find a way to cover him to convey the impact of what he does in part because he just overloads them with things to cover, there’s never any time to take the time with him.
I think distance and all the schadenfreude lately makes it easy to forget. This is accurate and every time something bad would happen in the news cycle, he would boast something to his followers and just rapid fire say quick ridiculous shit that he knows he has no intention of following through, just to move the focus off what he doesn’t want us paying attention to.
It blows my mind that even in my country (Poland) TV propaganda shows Trump as the good guy, what a bunch of bullshit.
There is plenty of pootin influence around.
Poland seems to be a hotspot of sorts. Wasn’t a previous Polish political leader there backed by him?
Hasn’t Poland’s government been ultra-right wing the last long while too? The whole anti-gay thing there has been dark.
(I’m only meaning: I can understand why the propaganda in Poland is like that. I agree - it’s all a bunch of bullshit)
If every halfway respectable news outlet sounded the alarm and made Trump’s threats to democracy and the rule of law the dominant story from now until election day, he’d still have 85% of his supporters. Some would be OK with it. Some would say he’s still better than Biden. Most would never see it because they live in a media bubble that tells them what they want to hear. And more than a few would call those stories hit pieces and climb into the bubble to be safe and comfortable.
We do need the media and everyone else to sound the alarm. And even a small shift could be enough to make the difference. But as long a large portion of the population is listening to outlets that unabashedly spew extremist propaganda, we’re going to continue have this problem.
Hell, a lot of them would be even more energized if outlets “oppressed” him. His followers are convinced that all the court proceedings and bad press are just those liberals being afraid, and if it makes those liberals afraid, that’s got to be good.
He even has some criticism from Republicans covered, with the whole RINO schtick to “no true Scotsman” away criticism from some Republicans.
Maybe, maybe if you had almost the entire Republican party, Fox News, OANN, and newsmax all calling him out, maybe. As it stands any other outlet complaing is just more delicious liberal tears to a group of people who are eager for their leopard to eat the faces of people they don’t like.
It doesn’t matter what the media says.
Almost every American is trying to survive a 30% to 50% cost of living increase that got worse under Joe Biden.
Do you really think they’re going to care if the candidate of change is a fascist? History has already taught us that political ideology is secondary to one’s survival.
The inflation and subsequent cost of living increase is a direct consequence of the covid stimulus packages.
Now remind me again who it was that started the money printing after the catastrophic handling of the pandemic.
If only people could eat excuses.
We’ve found a few hundred billion for another country’s wars, but can’t seem to find a dime for our own. How it started is inconsequential at this point. The person with the power to help is MIA and spending his time figuring out how to send even more of our money overseas, this time to support Israel’s genocide.
Fun Fact: Ever since the end of the Cold War every Republican presidency increased military spending while every Democrat president reduced it.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Military_spending_%25_of_revenue.webp
It’s true that military spending as a percentage of GDP has dropped over the years, yes.
It doesn’t change the fact that we massively neglect the needs of our own people in order to spend incredible sums of public money for warmongers, money said warmongers don’t need. It’s not enough that our military has bases in nearly every country on earth or that we’re running wars in seven or eight countries simultaneously, we’re now expected to find hundreds of billions more for other country’s wars too.
Canada spends 26 bill a year on war. Mexico spends 8 bill a year on war. We spend more than a trillion every year.
All while our people are suffering under a 30-50% cost of living increase and housing scarcity is accelerating.
It’s obscene.
I agree that the things you bring up are obscene but biden who is a corporate democrat who pretends to listen to our needs while dragging his feet is still better than a fascist who will bring us nothing but national shame and set progress on those issues back decades. I just don’t see your point, sorry.
That’s what happens when you stimulate an economy that was already doing well and then pass the buck to the next guy.
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Why is it always after? When people like you are sounding the alarm before. It’s always, “why didn’t anyone warn us?”
A lot of people get their worldview from some big ego on YouTube, Tik Tok, or Facebook these days it seems.
Some dude who is not a journalist and is not qualified to report on anything is making grandpa’s whole personality.
What a time.
That same grandpa who probably told us “Don’t believe something just because you heard it on the internet!”
What we really need is for lightning to come down out of the sky onto the orange one’s head and take him out. Crossing fingers.
PLEASE !! the media has been doing nothing but spread negative about him… what the hell are you talking about?
Yeah. They gave him airtime for ratings in 2016 and got an oh fuck moment on election day. Since then they’ve been trying to make up for it.
Democrats need to find somebody young, dynamic, yet with a bit of gravitas to run for president. I don’t plan to vote for Trump even if the other choice is a steaming pile of dung, but running a dude who appears to be senile is a bad choice.
The public doesn’t understand the risks of a Trump victory. That’s the media’s fault
- The Media
Journalism is easily one of the most self-critical professions there is. There are entire publications and non-profits dedicated solely to critiquing news coverage. CJR and AJR are great examples.
I am not surprised that you appear to be unaware of this as media illiteracy is the norm for most citizens.
Additionally, who else would we even want to criticize news coverage apart from an expert who understands all of the nuts and bolts of how the industry works?
Simply being a consumer of news doesn’t make you an expert in journalism any more than consuming medical care makes you a doctor.
In my experience the vast majority of people who have no formal training, or have never worked in mass communications tend to labor under a huge set of misconceptions about how the news industry operates and what really goes on in news rooms. People honestly have no clue and tend towards being confidently and even disastrously incorrect.
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The media in the US exists to make money, not to spread truth.
Why would they kill their golden goose?
No.
Corporations exist to make money.
Media exists to entertain and inform.
Most media is owned by corporations.
Don’t forget, corporations are people now!
Gee whiz thanks Citizens United!
So… yes.
That’s the exact problem. Corporations aren’t people. They might be run by people, but they are a concept of their own, that create a very twister social dynamic where the people that run them have certain feeling of obligation but also a sense of irresponsibility. Because the “corporation”, or the embodiment of the abstract end of maximizing profit, takes responsibility for the employees’. Mostly culturally, but even in many ways legally too.
Every Democrat or Republican I know understands the ‘risks’.
Edit: Sorry we’re too poor to fuck off and protest or get politically violent daily when we have ourselves and family to take care of.
How can it be still legal for Trump to run for President after the capitol attacks and his numerous impeachments and indictments?
Because due process is a thing that exists and must be respected for all persons.
Because it’s all political theater.
Impeachment is meaningless. It’s just an accusation. If there’s no conviction, all it means is that the people who made the accusations were wrong.
Indictments are the same. Considering the indictments are for things Joe has literally confirmed on camera he did as well (and far, far worse), it’s going to be pretty embarrassing for the Dems to watch their tribe get dragged right into court under that precedent.
Trump is a piece of shit, Joe is even dirtier. The whole thing is an embarrassment and disgrace.
“Joe is even dirtier”
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Hey randomly bombing that Iranian general, that was him too wasn’t it?
Can you believe how quickly you get down voted for pointing out Biden is a corrupt old man
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I think it is due to him saying Biden is worse than someone who mirrors historic genocidal maniacs.
Biden isn’t perfect but he seems to at least try to implement positive change, and is not inciting violence on those who disagree with him.
Oh no, not just “mirrors”. Trump has openly said he admires many dictators and genocidal maniacs, including Kim Jong Un, Hitler, Mussolini (apparently his favorite), and Andrew Jackson.
Can you cite anywhere he said any of that?
I’m pretty sure he’s said favourable stuff about those dictators in the past but don’t have the time rn. He did however use the term vermin in a speech to refer to people he doesn’t agree with which is textbook fascist. Have a nice day.
I’m pretty sure he’s said favourable stuff about those dictators in the past but don’t have the time rn.
I think he’s called them smart or strong before, but he also called al-Baghdadi smart before saying he died like a cowardly dog- so I don’t think you can really say that saying someone had respectable attributes means you like the person.
As for insulting people with vermin, I don’t really see that as a specifically fascist thing, Trump insults a lot of different people with a lot of different words, I’m not surprised fascists used some of them.
Have a nice day.
Thanks you too!
Which is also fucking wild. While it’s objectively true Biden sucks it’s also objectively true trump is worse. fuck me dude. I’m a pretty center dude, left of most of the culture stuff, and I don’t gut hate a conservative. I guess the point I’m making is my disdain for that orange fuck and the rest of the current GOP sycophant assholes is an unbiased hatred. How anyone could vote (again, I am A LOT more conservative than 90% of Lemmy, I just don’t have any hate in me. I love you if your black, trans, Jew, muzz, Jesus folk, trees, most insects and all the squirrels) for these evil gerrymandering hate mongers is beyond me but it’s clear it has nothing to do with political ideology/policy and everything to do with hate and disgusting religious belief.
If you don’t hate them, that just means you don’t understand how their actions have directly made your life worse.
it’s objectively true Biden sucks
Prove it. Objectively.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/16/politics/afghanistan-joe-biden-donald-trump-kabul-politics/index.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-bill-block-us-railroad-strike-2022-12-02/
https://apnews.com/article/child-tax-credits-program-ends-5ded3907c72ee0c3ad8a067a29d6b2c0
Man, that didn’t take long.
Look we’ve gotta vote for the lesser evil, obviously, but let’s not kid ourselves as if the Democratic party is somehow “social” or for the common people.
Their stance is still very much “The line-graph machine demands blood.” They simply go about it another way and are more inclined to respect their office and established rules of government, if only marginally.
Both parties send their kids to the same schools, and it sure as heck wasn’t where we went. It’s a silly game to them and we’re seen as resources to use toward votes, labor, and economy. (You know, like they used the Afghan people and promptly abandoned them to die as soon as it was convenient.)
And when more of the American people wander the streets ragged and starving while working 2 jobs for basic rent, and the stock market proclaims record profits, they’ll just as soon bust out the “What we need is jobs” rhetoric and hand gobs of cash to WalMart and Amazon calling them “jOb CrEatoRs”. AGAIN.
…and then as we’ve seen, objectively, block your right to peacable striking because you’re “too essential to the economy.”. . .a fashionable trend started by Reagan, a republican, with air traffic controllers.
As long as we don’t make them uncomfortable, they don’t give a crap what happens to us.
So basically, vote for the party the people have a better chance of wrestling control from and who might do less damage here and abroad, but by no means think any of them are your friends.
Well, see, the problem is none of this is objective.
For instance, I support all of the things you linked.
Their stance is still very much “The line-graph machine demands blood.”
This is just a dumb take lol. Presidents do have to make hard choices, yes. You don’t actually care about the end results, though, or you’d know Biden kept fighting for the unions and got them a victory.
Well they’ve not been able to demonstrate one single instance of corruption whatsoever. But sure, he’s old
He hasn’t been convicted of anything. Legal protections apply to everyone, even people we don’t like.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The poll, of course, is only one snapshot and it has been criticized, but it still tells a cautionary tale – especially when paired with the certainty that Trump, if elected, will quickly move toward making the United States an authoritarian regime.
Almost as troubling, two New York Times stories outlined Trump’s autocratic plans to put loyal lawyers in key posts and limit the independence of federal agencies.
Here’s what must be hammered home: Trump cannot be re-elected if you want the United States to be a place where elections decide outcomes, where voting rights matter, and where politicians don’t baselessly prosecute their adversaries.
“Women don’t want to die for Mike Johnson’s religious beliefs,” as Vanity Fair’s Molly Jong-Fast said on MSNBC, referring to the theocratic House speaker.
The Guardian’s David Smith laid out the contrast: “Since Biden took office the US economy has added a record 14m jobs while his list of legislative accomplishments has earned comparisons with those of Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson … Trump, meanwhile, is facing 91 criminal indictments in Atlanta, Miami, New York and Washington DC, some of which relate to an attempt to overthrow the US government.”
Pin down Republicans about whether they support Trump’s lies and autocratic plans, as ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos did in grilling the House majority leader Steve Scalise about whether the 2020 election was stolen.
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I don’t think people would believe the media even if it tried.
Jon Stewart isnt Republican but Republican voters fully understand and agree with many of his viewpoints.
It is possible to have reasonable conversations and discussions with people regardless of their political views.
The question becomes what does the Democratic Party have to do enough to convince people to trust and vote for them ?
A simple example would be the multiple rigging of the Democratic nominee against Bernie Sanders, while RNC does exactly the same kinds of rigging, DNC tried to make themselves seem holier-than-thou and did the exact same things as the RNC.
Guess why so many voters don’t truly believe in elections and “hate”-vote for Drumpf ???
Have good policies and reasonable expectations while keeping almost as many election campaign promises as possible. RNC delivered on their promises by strutting out strawman shit like “Build-the-Wall” … their real purpose was to defund the support networks for immigrants.
Where is the Dream-Act that guarantees citizenship after Military service ??? If the DNC can’t even do their most basic levels of campaign promises, everything sucks and Drumpf wins.
“Evil triumphs when good men do nothing”
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Jon Stewart may get some Republicans to agree to points, but it hasn’t changed the Republican Party. If anything, the party has gotten worse.
And if you are going to bring up Bernie Sanders, Bernie has said good things about Joe Biden and endorsed Joe back in April. Other progressive Democrats have also endorced Biden now.
And if you are going to compare the Dream Act to building a wall, there are different voting procedures in spending money versus other laws. And I can’t expect a party to do everything on their platform; it is historically rare to get perfection.
One of the issues was the media was very over-focused on every little nitpicky thing to the point many people just stopped giving a shit. Social media took that hyper-focus to 11, vastly exasperating the situation. So when anything big happened, many just didn’t bother to look.
The boy cried wolf 100 times when there was only an ant; when there was a wolf nobody cared to listen to the cries.
For example, I remember this fish-feeding story. People made a deal about how he was feeding fucking koi.
What side of this issue do those who own the media support?
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