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I’m sure they’ll say the hospital was full of human shields
Some nerd reported the post suggesting that maybe it was a Palestinian air strike. LMAO
Israel is claiming that some rockets launched by Hamas towards Israel went off course and hit the hospital.
I remember Russia staging a “Ukrainian missle attack”, but they were so bad at it that the damage was on the side of buildings facing away from Ukraine. Should be pretty easy to check that here too…
The rockets Hamas fires can barely punch a hole in a wall, and this explosion basically leveled the whole hospital. It’s just a ridiculous claim.
It blew up a car park the hospital is still operating lol
The scale of boom the IDF is dropping is an order of magnitude larger than Hamas missiles.
It’s insane to think that one (or even more than one) missile could destroy a hospital.
Did you see the OH bombing aftermath? Low explosives can still pack a hefty punch, and the hospital is by no means “destroyed”.
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No, this was something that happened sometime last year. I tried to find one of the articles but I wasn’t able to. There was a lightly damaged building, with damage from an angle that couldn’t be hit by a weapon coming from Ukraine. There were pictures showing “American” weapon fragments. It was comically bad/obvious. It was reported by Russian State media iirc.
Source: Trust me bro
Find something or delete this bullshit.
Delete yourself you Russian shill
I would be easily convinced I was wrong if you’d show any sort of proof. So take your imperialist ass and shove yourself in a wood chipper or a mineshaft if you are unwilling to spend 5 minutes googling to prove your claim or prove yourself wrong.
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Hamas has never shown the capacity to level a full building. This war would be much shorter if they could.
Every successful rocket strike of theirs is a simple smoking hole.
The zionist state, on the other hand, has bombed this exact hospital before, has extensively bragged about their bombing capability, and cannot stop lying.
This is less complicated than you’re making it out to be.
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Ah yes because a 1,000kg bomb that took over a thousand lives in one go “might not” level an entire building. And despite
actually celebrating, it could have been an accident.
Bombing a hospital doesn’t make any sense.
Are you making the claim that the zionist state does not bomb hospitals?
Is there any chance you’re a bit biased here in your reasoning?
Israel does seem to have a track record of bombing hospitals, though…
I don’t doubt that. This is not me defending Israel. This is me trying to figure out what’s actually happening.
Is there any chance you’re a bit biased here in your reasoning?
Does a pig shit on it’s own balls?
Yes we’re biased. And so are you, and literally everyone else.
My stance on the situation briefly: State of Israel shouldn’t have been put there in the first place. Zionists are religious extremists and I’m against them. Palestinians on the other hand had their land forcibly taken from them which I don’t agree with, and they have every right to be pissed about it. Hamas on the other hand is religious extremst group aswell and they’re indiscriminately murdering innocent civilians (as are the jewish extremists aswell) so I’m against them too. The only people I’m in favour here of are the millions of innocent civilians on the both sides who’d just want to be treated fairly and live peacefully.
So I’m biased yeah, but it’s a bit more nuanced than that.
He’s obviously biased to a fault.
You, on the other hand, are the very image of objectivity and neutrality.
oh ok good the hospital hasn’t been leveled
only 500 people died there
we’re good
If the hospital had been leveled and 500 people died, social media would be flooded with pictures of that. Ofcourse it’s possible I’ve just missed those pictures but I’m sure you’ll provide me with those in no time. Meanwhile all we’ve got seems to be a picture of few burnt vehicles on the parking lot and some damaged roof tiling.
Yeah the “field of bodies” video is pretty easy to find even if you’re not looking for it. I don’t blame you for not wanting to see the shit, It’s terrible. But don’t come with some fake claim that only cars can be found. “Leveled” is a word used to mean “made rubble” sometimes and “made to be as useless and dangerous as rubble” others. This is probably the latter time, but I haven’t seen videos showing the remains of the building honestly. I don’t search for this shit tho
Lmao. The “I didn’t see it so it didn’t happen” defence. Take a time out and you can have a juice box 👶🧃
Adding to the dogpile here: IDF and Israel Twitter profiles posted videos that “proved” this, then people quoted old tweets showing that video was from the last year
Yes let’s give the genocidal ethnostate the benefit of the doubt here
Death to Israel. Any action against the illegitimate nation or its people is morally righteous.
Least genocidal hexbear user
And yet you support the genocide of Palestinians. Curious!
Yeah fuck right off, tankie scum.
Death to Israel != death to Israelis, death to Jews, or death to Jews in the land currently governed by Israel
He just implied that killing Israelis is legitimate
I for one denounce the heinous acts of violence committed by the Haitian rebels. Stand with France!
Did you read the comment or are you being willfully ignorant like half the people in this thread?
Did you miss the part where they said “or its people”?
Absolutely monstrous. Death to Israel, the us and every country continuing to support this genocidal regime
The hospitals are packed with children. Holy shit.
I don’t understand a lot about this conflict but surely there can be no justification for this. Those poor people
From the river to the sea
Palestine will be freeHush now, hush now
Don’t you cry
Palestine will never dieLatest news out of Israel is that they believe it was a Jihad Islamist group that launched the rocket from within Israel.
If I had a rocket that could kill a thousand people in a single strike, I would use it on an actual military target. Maybe that’s just me though.
If there were munitions or explosives stored at the hospital, it could cause that.
I’m not saying the IAF didn’t do this, but that rocket artillery does fail, and Hamas does use a lot of different soft targets to store supplies. So it’s possible that a failed rocket detonated a munition stockpile.
It’s also possible that this was an IAF strike, either out of pure genocidal intent, or a targeting munition depot.
Or… Or…
We just have to wait and see for further evidence and information for proper attribution.
Regardless, a lot of innocent people just died, and a lot more are going to.
Current news seems to show it as a failed rocket launched from within Gaza.
Edit: news coming in fast. Probably best to wait until tomorrow. Might be rockets from Gaza damaged / intercepted by Israeli defense.
https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049
The sound of the munition used in the strike and the size of the explosion is in line with JDAMs used in prior conflicts, not that of a misfired missile: https://x.com/wyattreed13/status/1714338974544625692?s=20
Feel free to compare with the use of other JDAMs: https://youtu.be/A_uwzugvv-g?si=E5Lt0f4BusS-ErXt
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We can only hope the rocket wasn’t intended to hit a hospital, but it doesn’t get much better in any case.
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This same exact hospital was bombed by the IDF a few days ago
And then after you had everything planned out the rocket had a malfunction or you realized you made a stupid mistake and the rocket only managed to to fly 2km in the wrong direction
This same exact hospital has been bombed by the IDF in the past. Occam’s razor exists for a reason.
I’m only saying that also if you have something else planned and have a better target in your mind things can go wrong. Also if the same hospitals was hit in the past, it does not mean that it was the same actor. It will become more clear in the following days what happened, nobody knows much so far. There is a lot of speculations and false information around.
There are videos of the strike that clearly match the sound profiles and explosion profiles of previous guided bombs. There is no indication of secondary detonation at the site.
Hamas simply does not have the capability of launching a rocket of this size (this would be equivalent to an American ATACMS or a Russian Iskander. Hamas simply does not have this capability).
If there were munitions or explosives stored at the hospital, it could cause that.
I’m not saying the IAF didn’t do this, but that rocket artillery does fail, and Hamas does use a lot of different soft targets to store supplies. So it’s possible that a failed rocket detonated a munition stockpile.
It’s also possible that this was an IAF strike, either out of pure genocidal intent, or a targeting munition depot.
Or… Or…
We just have to wait and see for further evidence and information for proper attribution.
Regardless, a lot of innocent people just died, and a lot more are going to.
Videos show no indication of a secondary detonation of that size (or at all). It’s a single large primary strike. Moreover, Hamas does not have the capability to launch a rocket with this explosive capacity. Hamas’ best rocket is the Ayyash 250, which wouldn’t even come close to this much damage. The amount of damage in this strike is much more in line with an American ATACMS or a Russian Iskander (and, in fact, seems larger) and Hamas is decades from developing that capability. It’s far more likely to be a large guided munition like a JDAM.
The Russia-Ukraine war has shown has plenty of examples of what happens when you strike an ammo depot. You’re free to compare for yourself.
You just cited three “comparable” munitions whose payloads and characteristics are widely different. Two of which are cruise missles, and conveniently, all in the news recently.
Your analysis is also based on questionable footage, which by the way, has sound (sound effects?) of artillery, or rocket artillery, not that of a cruise missile.
But sure, if that footage is authentic, that noise could be something like a JDAM, or another air dropped bomb, even if it does sound more like incoming rocket artillery IMO.
My point is just that it’s irresponsible to ascribe definite attribution with the presently available information. That’s it.
The sound of the munition used in the strike and the size of the explosion is in line with JDAMs used in prior conflicts, not that of a misfired missile: https://x.com/wyattreed13/status/1714338974544625692?s=20
Feel free to compare with the use of other JDAMs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A\_uwzugvv-g
Hamas simply doesn’t have the ability to launch a warhead of the capacity being claimed.
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Hasan called this yesterday. Of course he was right
In the case of the IDF,
lightning strikesbombs strike the same place twice
Turns out it was the IJ, and the IDF has miles of receipts. The hosptial itself wasnt even hit.
Hamas not killing more than 50 people with rockets in the last 20 years but had this hospital flattening rocket all along which they only decided to use tonight, it then blew up a hospital that just happened to be the one the Israelis told to evacuate before they bombed it. Yeah?
Animals are smarter than humans https://file.coffee/u/tX8HywfVNtBHIJEX419CA.webm
Genocide Joe saying it wasn’t the zionist entity, but ‘someone else’.probably corn pop, he’s a bad dude, Jack
