I’m sure if there is ample reliable evidence charges will be brought against him, until then I’ll keep my pitchfork at home
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Okay.
I am shocked. Shocked I tell you!
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From argent leftie to all of a sudden rightwing conspiracy theorist
That’s because things are in a circle. Go too far left and you end up on the right… All the wacko-commies are essentially fascists.
Horseshoe theory is a farce mate.
What a stupid take
I found the wacko-commie!
I too would also be against the government if the government was preparing a case against me for several counts of rape.
Fuck Brand. Hope he fucking rots in prison.
Not surprised. Will blame it on the drugs and drink. Slap in the wrist, British tabs will have their fun, then it will all go back to normal.
Not a single person with a brain is surpriced. The guy is a GLOWING red flag.
Well it helps that they printed his face on one.
Not a fan of Brand but I am sick of this media circus bullshit… they should not be publishing this unless a police investigation has taken place and he is charged and found guilty in court; we have a legal system for a reason.
They have opened themselves up to be sued for slander.
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And in news that surprised absolutely no one…
I swear there’s a dark triad for “free thinkers” like him.
He used to be good but like many they started doubling down on their beliefs during the pandemic and quite frankly they become mentally unwell.
Was he good, or was he just grifting a different group before?
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Can we make a list of right wingers that aren’t disgusting pieces of shit? Will be much quicker.
Funnily enough he used to be pretty left.
It’s like this right wing conspiracy pipeline is a honeypot for pond scum that reveals who they really are.
Populist rhetoric works because it offers seemingly simple solutions to complex problems and excuses behavior that would otherwise be unacceptable.
Sometimes it’s even a good excuse, others just an outlet for hate and stress.
pretty left or just far-right?
the swiss LEGA also agrees with a lot of the far-left on how to deal with social Problems, but is still far-right.
I thought he was quite left as well hadn’t realized he swung to the right
He always struck me as one of those people who wasn’t, in his heart of hearts, actually left-wing, but rather just wanted to be counter-cultural. The culture has shifted around him and now if he wants to be counter-cultural it means being alt-right.
Me too. Damn. Conspiracy to fascist pipeline got another one, I guess.
I thought he was socialist?
I think he used to say he was, not sure if he does anymore.
His content mostly caputred the right wing conspiracy don’t trust the gubbement, aliens are real, covid is not real but also a bioweapon crowd.
And so close to elections Now nobody will believe anything he says… how convenient
lol imagine caring what Russell Brand has to say about an election anywhere on earth.
Kutcher and Kunis’ phones ringing off the hook right now.
She worked with him in forgetting Sarah Marshall
So I’m sure she’ll defend him
There was a Dispatches program on about this tonight, and at some point they note that later in his career Brand would do charity work exclusively to benefit women, and Kutcher was my first thought.
Not saying he’s done anything, but so often men claim to be feminists as a smoke screen to hide abusive behaviour (“he would never, look at all the good he’s done!”) and/or access victims.
Didn’t he non-consensually post candid pics of Katy Perry without makeup? I thought he was an asshole ever since then. Not that she should’ve been ashamed, but it should’ve been her choice.
I don’t know the non-consensual bit for sure, but that’s how I recall it being presented at the time and why I’ve never liked him. I’d never heard of the fucker before that.
I hadn’t heard that until now but if he did that without her permission that’s a shitty thing to do to a partner. Whether you’re a celebrity or not there’s a certain expectation of privacy that needs to be established in intimate relationships.
Ah. So that is why I saw a headline about him bitching.
Not surprised. This dude has always been a chode
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Once upon a time I actually liked Russell Brand. Thought he was intelligent and quite in touch with the ways of the world despite his eccentric character. He truly lost the plot when covid came around, although it wasn’t the first time he’d talked absolute shite.
In hindsight, it’s not really a surprise that he’d be this kind of person.
I noticed that people who are using recreational drugs are disproportionally concerned about vaccine safety, which I find quite amusing.
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I never said that’s the only group though.
It is just surprising to me that you would get concerns about injecting yourself with not well tested medicine from that specific group.
High people not thinking things through?
Hmm, maybe you’re on to something.
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Fair trade cocaine and organic crystal meth are a thing.
I find it entirely unsurprising.
The amount of vegan, organic, health-obsessed, non-GMO twats I know, who happily snort coke or do ecstacy during the weekend is huge.
I can only surmise they’re not true believers, they’re just boring people who think going on about it makes them more interesting than they actually are.
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Religion is their drug, which is way stronger than conventional drugs.
Yeah I’ve seen this as well, all the drug users I know went hard on the conspiracy train.
I never liked him much, and that’s not a “I knew he was out there raping”, that I didn’t know. But personality-wise he was basically an egocentric rockstar who thought he knew it all and everyone not agreeing with his views and sense of humour were just too stupid.
And turns out, he is behaving even more like a 80s rockstar than I thought.
Perfectly cast in Get Him to the Greek, but at the time I thought it was acting, not just rolling out of bed.
Yeah I always thought he was hilarious because he was doing a shtick but as it turns out, that’s just him.
Yeah, it’s also why his movie career (at least as a comic lead) started in 2008 and was dead by the middle of 2011. He’s got no range and audiences were only willing to pay to see Russell Brand being “Russell Brand in a different outfit” so many times before he wore out his welcome.
I liked his old podcasts back when he was still on drugs but pretending he was clean.
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Yeah, I know a lot of people thought he was a reasonably smart dude with some interesting insights. But when you think about it he’s always been very superficial. There’s not much depth to any of his takes. He’s just charismatic and speaks like he keeps a pocket thesaurus in his jacket.
He a junkie you would see rambling at a bus stop incoherently. The difference is an expanded vocabulary and a he’s been on TV.
He was funny at one point. But he never grew past the need for the attention and didn’t branch out of teenager years.
When I was poor and I complained about inequality they said I was bitter. Now I’m rich and I complain about inequality they say I’m a hypocrite. I’m starting to think they just don’t want to talk about inequality. —Russell Brand
Still one of my favorite quotes, it’s unfortunate that I won’t really be able to use it any more.
Brand used to be a legit socialist back in the day. The longer he had money, the harder I think was for him to continue to understand the struggle of the common people. Either that or its audience capture like what happened to Dave Rueben.
The YouTube channel the Kavernacle has done some good coverage on his drift to the right.
He definitely didn’t come up with that line, I’m sure you could find an attribution to something virtually identical said a century ago, and several times since.
I just watched a program about this, and he was a creep from the get go.
A guy vaguely understanding class struggles doesn’t make him a socialist nor a good guy.I’m pretty sure he described himself as a socialist once upon a time. I’m not one to gate keep what people call themselves.
But yeah just because he’s a socialist that doesn’t make him a good person. Marx probably had an unclaimed child with his servant girl.
Marx was an utter piece of shit in many ways. He just had some very good ideas. I’ve always wondered how many of them can be attributed to Engles though.
Hitler called himself a socialist too, that’s a pretty low bar… 🤦♀️
All you’ve done so far is attempt to derail the conversation about Brand being a rapist…
I’m sorry that’s not my intention. Do you think it would be best if we delete this thread?
I was just working through how my perception of him had changed over the years. I don’t want to downplay his alleged crimes.
I appreciate that you didn’t mean to, but making it about him and whatever good he supposedly did, in a conversation about the several women he raped (and however many more he “just” assaulted), is at best highly inappropriate (and at worst is a well known derailing tactic used by those looking to defend a rapist and/or discredit his victims). Deleting the thread probably won’t do much, but learning from this for the future will.
Part of rape culture is the massively false idea that “nice guys” don’t rape, ignoring the fact that many rapists and abusers are experts at manipulating everyone around them (rapists “infiltrating” leftist circles, especially feminist ones, to gain access to victims, as well as the language to disarm their defences, is sadly not at all unusual).
I would highly recommend watching the Dispatches episode that aired about this last night if you can. In several of his performances/appearances he basically admits to putting an act on to get people to ignore how shitty he really is (as well as graphic descriptions of what we now know were some of his assaults, which he used as part of his comedy routine).
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So many people I used to watch on youtube lost their fucking minds in 2020.
This is shit he was doing more than ten years ago.
You can’t blame this shit on lockdown, he’s always been a failure of a human being, it’s just now we’re finding out details.
I’m just waiting for the study that shows COVID infection makes certain people less empathetic and more paranoid. There’s just too much of it happening to not be biological IMO.
He lost the plot well before Covid, it’s just that it wasn’t noticed outside the UK as it largely revolved around our election in 2015 when he was encouraging people not to vote, then when he realised at the last minute this would just lead to he Tories winning by default, backed labour at the eleventh hour, leaving a lot of his followers confused and aimless so the alt-right could swoop in and win them over.
