Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’
They aren’t even hiding that they are wanna-be dictators anymore.
And “freedom” loving conservatives just cheer this on.
They “love” America so much, they want to destroy our democracy. The level of hypocrisy amongst the Right is astonishing.They want freedom from accountability, like King Leopold’s congo free state.
Most of the followers can’t see past “we’re going to save America from the evil Democrats”. It’s not as if Fox News or OAN put the fascist behaviors on display. They genuinely believe Trump when he says the Democrats are persecuting him, rather than that the justice system is prosecuting him for crimes - his only “crime” was trying to save America from those evil commie Democrats, after all. They take all the BS at face value because … tribalism and fear or something?
The only people in the Republican party who actually understand what’s happening are the rich and the powerful. Everyone else, the voters especially, are just useful idiots.
Of course it’s horrible and fascistic to declare you’re planning to use your power to lock up political opponents, as opposed to letting the justice system play out.
…but if appropriate decision makers can prove actual wrongdoing in a court of law, I have no inherent qualms with Donald Trumps political enemies being prosecuted.
I don’t think many people are pro-corruption so that’s fair, but Trump is insane. He isn’t pursuing justice he wants revenge.
Once again the Right is accusing the Left of things the Right wants to do.
Pretty sneaky trick really.
Say your enemy is going to do something
Do it
Get told “Hey you’re doing X”
Tell them “Projecting much? Everyone knows you’re the one who’s doing X, I even said so before you accused me of anything!”
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Do unto others as your narcissistic brain thinks others are doing on to you.
Say “Yes absolutely, you giving us those names grants you full immunity.” Once he has given those names just send him to jail. He’s okay with lying to the public why wouldn’t it be fine to lie to him? He has ruined a country when the country needed him.
I see your point but doing that would undermine legal system.
I see it as having your own medicine. “But you can’t do that! You’re promoting a failing system!”
Okay let’s leave him alone? Yes? OR Do you think he didn’t undermine the system?
I want him demoralised, I want him to find no value in life. Absolutely nothing.
It’s already been undermined
Then we need to backfill it, not knock down the scaffold
Because Americans are better than that. And the country needs a good example, now more than ever.
That’d be a neat trick from jail.
I mean Hitler also went to jail for a failed coup. We saw how that turned out.
Ugh… don’t say it!
He also got prosecuted way faster. Four days after his coup attempt he was arrested.
Hitler wasn’t in his late 70s when he went to prison.
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What else would this douchebag do, really? He had 4 years and the only thing he “accomplished” was tax breaks for the elite.
Of course this tiny petty man will use the power of the office to exact revenge. He’s not going to do anything for Americans.
He also accomplished the deaths of millions of Americans during a pandemic
To be fair, a lot of those deaths were inevitable. Trump did not create the anti-vax movement. He just taught it to torture itself with horse dewormer to own the libs.
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To be fair and accurate, he lied to the country about the seriousness of the outbreak. He’s on recording in Feb 2020 flat-out telling Bob Woodward it’s going to be bad, it’s much more deadly than the flu. At the same time he’s publicly calling it a hoax, that its going to go away, like a miracle.
The people that trusted him didn’t take it serious because he told them not to, and then accused everyone taking it serious to be fools or intentionally trying to create a panic and steal their liberties. Had he simply allowed the scientists and the CDC to speak candidly and deferred to them, thousands upon thousands of lives would have been saved.
Oh I don’t mean to imply he is not responsible or try to make light of his disastrous incompetence, the absolute shithead definitely got many people killed by insisting the biggest public health crisis in recent memory was no big deal. A solid quarter of the US population to this day still hangs on his every word. I’m just saying that with or without him, a good chunk of people were going to refuse to get vaccinated or practice social distancing no matter what. This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new.
And deliberately normalizing that behavior is the issue. Same thing with racism, Trump doesn’t create or promote racism, he just normalizes the racist behavior.
Well that goes without saying. These people were always like this, but social norms forced them to be more quiet about it. Career conman and karma Houdini Trump comes along and shows his people that not only can they be be open and proud of their worst qualities, they can get away with their behavior in nearly all cases.
But it doesn’t. It needs to be repeated, over and over, by the people we elect to govern
This undercurrent of contrarian mental illness in America is not new.
Sadly, you’re correct, this is very much not new. That’s a political flier from 1955 put out during the height of the red scare and McCarthyism. I’d say conservatives need new material, but it’s very clear that the old material is working just as well today as it was 70 years ago.
He had 4 years and the only thing he “accomplished” was tax breaks for the elite
He also “accomplished” making intentional allies a lot less willing to trust the US.
Great success.
Honestly, I’m glad to see the EU and its constituent countries realize it needs to be able to assert itself without counting fully on the US.
Granted, I don’t have to live in the US myself, so… Sorry about that.
I agree. But I’m not from the US either, so that might have something to do with it.
And making the US an international laughing stock any time he spoke.
I was looking into this. Obama added roughly 8 trillion dollars to the national debt. Trump added the same amount in half as much time.
While both of these statements are true, Obama did it to get the US out of the recession hole where the previous 8 years of unsecured mortgages and crazy walls street bets from investment banks created endemic risk and failure propagation.
Very different outcomes of the same moneys, specially considering we even turn some profit on sellin the bailed out car companies and once they paid some of these loans.Obama did it to get the US out of the recession hole where the previous 8 years of unsecured mortgages and crazy walls street bets from investment banks created endemic risk and failure propagation.
Yep and Trump, in contrast, managed to give hundreds of billions of dollars directly to criminals and scammers. He made scams great again.
https://time.com/5290474/trump-bank-rollback-dodd-frank/
What’s old is new again.
This time with more maga.
it’s important to understand each of their reasoning:
Obama added to the national debt in order to jumpstart a stalled economy that was deep, DEEEEEEP in the shitter after Bush just noped’out after letting the housing market explode and adding two wars to the bill. Paying all that shit off, PLUS, what was planned to be damned-near-universal-healthcare but became JUST a huge expansion to most people’s health benefits (the ACA).
Those are things Obama’s admin paid for and we saw actual, tangible returns on. The economy roared back to life. Medical costs and insurance costs went down.
What benefits did we see from Trump’s deficit ballooning tax cuts? hmm lemme look here… ah, the report says JACK SHIT.
Unless you’re a billionaire.
So yeah, they both added to the national debt but at least most americans received a functioning economy and a chance for healthcare from Obama. Genuinely, Thanks Obama!
They need to ask ab9ut this during these republican debate/PR events. Do you support tump’s call tto arrest his political opponents?" Yes or no,
Ummm, that’s not the question you’re hoping it is.
They chanted “lock her up!” at rallies.
The people who still support this man (and it’s a lot of people) would turn against anyone who answered with a no.
That’s why they should ask the question. We are either a nation of laws or we are not.
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If those peo0le who are running for president are blood thirsty, we should probably know about it before voting starts.
DeSantis was a lawyer for Gitmo; Trump wanted to execute five innocent black men before he had any political ambitions; Vivek fully embraces the caste system that benefited his family in the past, and has pretty openly suggested he wants to use violence to implement it here. We know the people who are running for president are blood thirsty, they don’t hide that in any way. They chose to run on a conservative platform, violence is inherent to the ideology, and on top of that frequently advertise how well they would play the role of violence if elected.
I agree with all of this, but unfortunately none of it is framed this way in the media.
The mass media kinda has a “Jews for Hitler” vibe going about it right now, because a lot of Trump’s “political enemies” are journalists. They should stop pussyfooting around that fact and stop covering this as a horse race because if he wins he’s gonna run his horse right over them first with the rest of us not too far behind.
Those 5 black men he wanted executed were between 14 and 16 years old.
He wanted to execute five black and Hispanic children. That’s what he wanted to do. Paid from his own pocket to advertise it too.
I’m not correcting you because I disagree, I just wanted to drive that point home.
Your comment is 100% on point aside from that little error.
At this point you can just take it as a given
You can listen to to to them talk at any recorded rally they have. There are interviews with these people. Websites. PACs. Years of history. Television debates are not the only way to know thier thoughts. None of these people appeared out of thin air.
Didn’t Ramaswamy basically say he would rule through executive order and ignore the courts and congress?
Trump doesn’t do debates anymore. He doesn’t have to. I think he has saturated his market.
They already asked them if they would support Trump as nominee ( their political rival ) if he was arrested and imprisoned. I think 6 of 8 said “yes”.
Technically 5 of 8 said yes, DeSantis waited to see what everyone else did and then raised his hand as well.
I recall pence also hesitating
Hesitating isn’t the same as waiting to make sure you’re on the same team as the popular kids.
If anything hesitating puts him marginally above these other bootlicking fascists.
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If by ‘debate’ you mean ‘execute by hanging’ then you can debate fascists away.
That’s cool and good. Politicians should fight more.
They really shouldn’t. This is all political theater.
It’s be great if it weren’t.
Cool opinion, gayhitler420.
Ty!
Cage match
Oh my god! It’s Bernie Sanders and he’s got a folding chair!
Fuck around and find out, asshole. By definition, I’m targeted. Let that cheese asshole come to my house and try to lock me up for my beliefs and my use of the 1st amendment.
Like Trump himself is gonna walk up to your house and try to arrest you, tough guy. He wouldn’t even know your name. You’d just be another poor schmuck on a list getting their ass dragged off to jail by the cops or the feds. The truly scary part is that if it comes to that, no one would be able to help you. By that point, everyone will be too afraid of what is happening and/or completely powerless to do anything but quietly hope they’re not next.
Tell that to the thousands who helped smuggle people out of insanely shitty situations. I think they even made a movie about one…someone’s list, mmm it’s slipping my tongue.
Yeah, but the story there is that most people didn’t get smuggled out.
I know it’s anecdotal, but if you read writers of that era, a lot of biographies end up with “and he died in a concentration camp”.
Or the poet whose last work was the poem “Forced March”. He didn’t make it to the camp, died in a ditch.
Most people affected didn’t make it out, and most people didn’t have the courage to help.
It’s the scariest part about fascism.
Most people won’t lift a finger for you even if you are a civilian being lined up to get shot with your wife and child.
And yet there ARE stories that also end in “they got married and had a giant family and died of old age.” To deny these are to deny the survivors and the people who helped.
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Well you see donnie boy being a democrat isn’t a criminal offense but trying to overthrow our government to install yourself as a dictator is.
That’s why he thinks it’s a witch hunt. It’s always projection.
I think all the other Republicans use projection. I don’t think Trump protects at all and legit believes what he is saying. He thinks everything he did was legal because he believes the presidency is infallible and rules above all else.
You’ve got it backwards. Trump is the one projecting. The others are using accusation in a mirror.
Jesus Christ…
I wish somebody would push him out of a window already
I would but I’m afraid I cannot without a forklift
That sure sounds like a violation of his terms of release in his court cases.
If you’re expecting someone to actually enforce consequences on him for this you haven’t been paying attention.
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I’m kind of worried about that being the case. Not American though, you should probably be more worried if you actually live there.
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Being an outside observer I am kind of excited for him to flee the country and attempt to run for president of the United States from somewhere like Russia or North Korea.
Best. Timeline. Ever.
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Which part exactly? Him being found guilty, him trying to flee the country, or him continuing to claim victory after fleeing the country?
This timeline is eerily close to a conceivable reality.
I’d love to see them revoke his bail and imprison him for this.
