San Francisco’s police union says a city bakery chain has a “bigoted” policy of not serving uniformed cops.
The San Francisco Police Officers Assn. wrote in a social media post last week that Reem’s California “will not serve anyone armed and in uniform” and that includes “members of the U.S. Military.” The union is demanding that the chain “own” its policy.
Reem’s says, however, its policy isn’t against serving armed police officers. It’s against allowing guns inside its businesses.
“Reem’s has a deep commitment to uplifting social and racial justice in our communities,” the statement said. “This includes fostering an environment of safety for our staff and customers. In a time of increased gun violence — particularly impacting people of color, youth, and queer people — we believe that maintaining a strict policy of prohibiting guns in our restaurant keeps us safer.”
They don’t want guns on their property. It’s pretty simple. They have the right to restrict guns on their property.
Calling them ‘bigots’ and ‘discriminatory’ is disgusting, because those words mean hating people for inherent qualities that can’t be changed, like skin colour. You can leave your gun and uniform behind and poof you magically aren’t in the ‘discriminated’ group.
Black people can’t leave their skin in their car. See the difference? No? Then you might be a bigot.
e: anonymous downvoters, don’t be a pussy, reply please. That’s the whole point of this forum. Engage or gtfo.
Maybe a better move would be to not serve any gun owner whatsoever. It’s their business, do what you like.
That’s exactly what they’re doing. Did you not read beyond the title?
Sure I did…then expanded on what they are doing, joking that they have the right to limit their customer base, and the $ it brings if they choose to. Doesn’t sound like good business to me, but hey, their choice.
Even Aragorn and co had to leave their weapons to enter Edoras. Gandalf was a cheeky bugger though.
For some more context this place, reems, really isn’t a bakery so much as a middle eastern take out place. The main store is currently closed down though so the only place they have open is a counter serve food court style place in the ferry building, so the cops didn’t get kicked out of the place, they either went to the counter and the cashier refused to serve, or more likely, they saw the new policy online and threw a hissy fit without actually going.
The founder is a Palestinian leftist, so this probably was targeted towards cops/military.
I’d highly recommend going here if your on a tourist trip and end up in the ferry building, not just for the cop hate, but there wraps are great as well.
Oh no. A leftist!
Yeah, we’re so damn scary!
- Sincerely, leftist pacifist
Why are you a pacifist? All rights are won through violence.
Because I don’t believe that might makes right. I believe that we can be better than our primitive and murderous ancestors and we owe it to each other to at least try.
As for your assertion on the origins of rights, that’s absolute bullshit. The vast majority of worker’s and other civil rights have been won via peaceful protest.
You’ve actually got it backwards: TAKING AWAY rights always happens through violence. That’s what it’s for: enforcing your will on those you are unable or unwilling to convince by civilized means.
Can you actually name which rights we’ve won via peaceful protests?
Can you get to your real point? What do you want?
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I was with you right up until this historical revisionism. I’m a Baha’i and we are pacifists. But. If there is a threat to the community, we will start with words and diplomacy, and will end where we need to, to ensure the unity and safety of our communities.
This is so disingenuous.
I will not fight for Starfleet, but I will defend its ideals. Pacifism is not pacivity. It’s the active protection of all living things in the natural universe.
~Hemmer
Ghandi is the only one that comes to mind. And in Bill Wurtz’s “The History of everything, I guess” video he even says “wait, that worked?!?”
That would be the right for the Indian people to self govern.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but since I’ve never heard of a Jamaican Revolution, so I’m guessing they also won their independence without bloodshed.
LGBTQ rights I feel like have made huge strides without violence. There was the Stonewall riots, of course, but since then most of the rights have been achieved mostly through normalization and exposure through pop culture and stuff like that. Of course, some people are trying to rewind those, but conservatives are like that with all rights that aren’t specifically for white men.
Sincerely, leftist pacifist
Why are you a pacifist? All rights are won through violence.
As for your assertion on the origins of rights, that’s absolute bullshit. The vast majority of worker’s and other civil rights have been won via peaceful protest.
The history of society is the history of class struggle. Those rights were earned through struggle, not through asking nicely.
By peaceful protest I didn’t mean asking nicely. I meant being loud, getting in the way, generally making life miserable for the oppressors until they give in without sinking to their level.
Non-violent is a much better term for it tbh, should have used that instead.
Imagine if those cops were gay! They wouldn’t be able to get donuts anywhere!
There should be a law that says for each type of business in a region (e.g. donuts and coffee) you cannot introduce new discrimination that is already done by another establishment – that way cops will always have at least one place to go.
Guns don’t have a sexual or gender identity nitwit.
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Sexuality is a protected class. Being a cop and carrying a gun are not.
Discrimination is entirely legal when it’s not against a protected class.
There it is.
Stupidest thing I’ve read today.
I’m still learning to do irony on the internet. Please bear with me.
Poes law
Always close your sarcasm tags.
It was obvious sarcasm, but some peoples brains don’t work.
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it’s about the guns, not the cops
Honestly would be cooler if it were about the cops
Ssshh. It definitely is wink
Guess who just got themselves put on the “do not respond to emergency calls” list?
Side note:
Reem’s says, however, its policy isn’t against serving armed police officers. It’s against allowing guns inside its businesses.
It’s San Francisco. Aren’t police the only ones allowed to open carry there? So it’s just a de facto ban on cops.
Edit: gotta say, I’m confused about the downvotes. I’m pointing out that the police are likely to retaliate. Did I say something that gives the impression I’m condoning that?
Oh no!!! Who will come and take a report and do nothing after they get robbed!!!
They won’t do nothing, that’s slander.
They’ll shoot your dog while they’re already in the neighbourhood, and that is objectively something.
“do not respond to emergency calls” list
Bro everyone everywhere is on that list. Cops don’t do anything unless they’re forced to or they get to RP Bad Boys
That’s probably for the best.
If they call the cops and they show up, they’re far more likely to get shot themselves.
Sounds like cops are allowed if they leave their guns behind, so it’s not a ban on cops at all, just cops who insist on carrying their gun more than they keep their body cameras on.
They’re not allowed to do that while on duty.
EDIT: For those down voting, to be clear I don’t disagree with the sentiment, just providing facts to a comment.
Do they need to eat at a bakery while ‘on duty?’
Sounds like not the cafe’s problem. The police department could change the rules if they want cops to be able to interact with ordinary people as semi-equals.
Yeah I’m not allowed to eat at a bakery while working either. Tough shit.
Shop off duty
Guess who just got themselves put on the “do not respond to emergency calls” list?
Oh no! Anyway…
It’s not like they prevent crime, they show up afterwards, take a report and then you never hear from them again. If you’re unlucky, they show up, get spooked, shoot you and lie on the report and still never do anything to help you. What exactly are you missing by having them never show up?
If they would leave people to die in an emergency over donuts then they’re disgusting human beings who don’t deserve anyone’s time of day anyway.
They won’t leave people to die! That would be terrible! They’ll just shoot the criminals, the victims, a few bystanders and any dogs they happen to see on the way.
And then laugh and joke about how fun it was to get to shoot their “toys”
Aren’t police unions among those who back politicians that fight tooth and nail for businesses to adhere to their values? I should think that Reem’s would have their full-throated support for refusing service to those who offend their beliefs. I’m so confused.
/smh
So fucking what? Police aren’t a protected class.
They’re a minority of the population so they should be.
Except it’s a job not an innate, unchangeable characteristic… I honestly can’t tell if you’re serious or not.
Too bad for you.
That’s not how it works. They’re not an oppressed minority, they’re the oppressive tool of the political and economic elite.
Muricans and their lack of understanding irony and satire… Oh wow…
I’m actually not American and you didn’t make it at all obvious to a bunch of complete strangers that you were being sarcastic rather than an idiot 🤷
Those type of people would rather blame it on others than themselves at all times
Yup. I have a younger brother who’s like that. Gets pretty damn exhausting tbh…
Got an older one like that. But it reflects on his personality as a whole. He’s always a victim and yeah… I could go on but I agree. It’s exhausting
So are pedophiles, what’s your point?
That’s the point!
My job that I chose is a minority of the population too, where is my special treatment?
Scanner monkey?
We’re all a protected class. Yay!!
They’re certainly not a protecTIVE class either.
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They’re like Anders, the guy who pretends to be a paladin of Tyr, the god of justice, but is actually the willing servant of an arch-devil
To be fair, SCOTUS says they don’t have to protect anyone.
To be even more fair though, not having to “serve and protect” like they lie about on their cars is not the same thing as not being ALLOWED TO.
They COULD choose to be decent humans who try to use their position of power to help people because it’s the right thing to do rather than an obligation, but of course, that’s not how a cop brain works.
Also, to be slightly less fair but no less truthful, the current scotus makes a mockery of the very concept of justice and most of them should be recalled and prosecuted for gross corruption.
They’re about to be.
Ostracize pigs they are a drain on society. Acab
I’d be surprised if Peter hasn’t used his fingers to count.
I do arithmetic on my fingers. :(
I can count to 10 normally. 20 if I take my shoes off. 22 if I pull my pants down.
Shouldn’t that be 23/24 if you pull your pants down?
24??? Dude how many dicks do you have
Actually, it is three balls
Like that chick on that movie about the three titties.
50% more balls is 100% more awesome
Why wouldn’t you count the balls while you were at it? I mean, they’re right there and you’re counting.
That’s still only 23.
Can’t do math without digits.
No military eh?
Guess I won’t be eating there.
Also, with very few exceptions… you won’t find armed military people walking around in the civilian area… so, the rule against armed people is illegitimate here.
I mean, it shouldn’t be an issue then. The point is they won’t allow armed people in, no matter why they’re armed. They don’t care if you’re a cop or military off duty with no weapons. This is just the union trying to spin it as anti-military/cop. I bet you anything the questions went something like
Nobody armed?
Nope.
Not even military?
Yup.
If you want to wear a little tinfoil, one might suspect they asked it like that just for the excuse to paint them as such.
99% of military walking around are not armed, in fact it would be particularly odd to see anyone but military police walking around armed. Like to the point if I saw that I’d call the military police. Especially off base.
I’m military and I support the decision to not serve us in uniform. I think it’s probably a little misguided since most of us are office drones same as anyone else, but it’s his store and I wasn’t born in the military, it was my choice* to join.
*I wanted healthcare and to pay for college.
Military NEVER, and I mean fucking NEVER take service weapons off base unless they are going to fucking WAR.
Yup. That’s basically what I was trying to say.
The cop said that their policy is to not serve uniformed military, not the bakery. The bakery claims it has nothing to do with being a uniformed officer or military personal, they just dont allow firearms in the building.
If you didn’t want to be a bastard, you shouldn’t have been a cop.
In a city where you can’t park your car in the street without the window being smashed or have a business without having homeless harass your customers I thought that you might want to be nice to the cops but I guess I am wrong.
Assuming you’re speaking from loved experience and not what you heard on Fox News, what do the cops actually do about any of that? They might mosey along and murder the homeless person eventually but they’re not gonna stop someone from smashing your window. Most likely case is they just won’t respond at all.
Do you live in SF? Everyone I talk to thst lives there tells me that’s how it is. I don’t watch Fox News you can’t deny that city is in a crisis. I think the police as a institution needs a overhaul but you don’t do that by squeezing them out or spitting at them. That will only guarantee you get the wrong people applying for the job.
How about if the union ‘owns’ that they are murderous bastards that consider themselves above accountability?
