Business says it doesn’t serve anyone who is armed
businesses often give police discount to be in best terms in case they are needed, i know it shouldn’t be that way, but still you wouldn’t want to do the opposite
So bribing them? I thought that was only mexico police force but at last, they are no different.
at IHOP we gave them 50% off, i thought was too much, owner of the store said he liked them sticking around
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I avoid business with cops. I go to the shit side of town for ice cream, because cops like to hang out at the nearby ice cream place.
That sounds a lot like protection payments to me
It’s different here because that’s an unspoken rule.
It’s an unspoken rule with the mafia too. They just tell you it would be a shame if anything bad happened to your business.
That Oregon bakery who refused to sell to a gay wedding ended up winning in the appeal, so if you can say “no gays” you can say “no ______”
Post this on Twitter or similar and they will be jumping hoops to say it’s ok.
I dont have a Xwitter or a Metabook account
And your life is better for it, honestly.
That was kind of my point, I definitely dont think that they should be going to Twitter.
They didn’t actually win. It had the some procedural non-decision that the Colorado bakery case had (i.e. the regulator failed to be sufficiently neutral). They got fined again and that is being appealed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_v._Oregon_Bureau_of_Labor_and_Industries
They’ll keep appealing it down to nothing. It’s back in Oregon now, give it a few months. What a waste of tax payer millions. Just make the fucking cake.
‘just make the fucking cake’ is not something that you hear every day.
For some more context this place, reems, really isn’t a bakery so much as a middle eastern take out place. The main store is currently closed down though so the only place they have open is a counter serve food court style place in the ferry building, so the cops didn’t get kicked out of the place, they either went to the counter and the cashier refused to serve, or more likely, they saw the new policy online and threw a hissy fit without actually going.
The founder is a Palestinian leftist, so this probably was targeted towards cops/military.
I’d highly recommend going here if your on a tourist trip and end up in the ferry building, not just for the cop hate, but there wraps are great as well.
If its legal for someone to hypothetically not create a wedding announcement website for gay people because she doesn’t want to serve those kinds of people, then there should be nothing wrong with not wanting to serve armed cops.
Baking food and making coffee could be argued to be every bit as “creative” as a website can be if the lawyer is good enough.
One is outright discrimination based on sexual orientation. The other is simply a policy applied to all patrons.
It should absolutely be legal to say ‘no shoes no service’ or ‘has gun no service’ even if it was not legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation/race/gender/etc. They aren’t at all the same thing.
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Not in San Fran they wont. They let criminals run rampant but wont let anyone without Trump money get through the concealed carry permit process. Bruen should have fixed that but who knows if Cali will actually listen with Newsom putting that constitutional amendment to neuter the 2nd amendment out there.
SF has an extremely lot violent crime rate, so what exactly do folks need guns like that for? The “high crime rate” is property crime, like theft. Unless folks want to be out here shooting people for smash and grabs.
Does this police chief have beef with the MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, and every other major sports organization?
None of them allow firearms on site unless you are on duty
And an off duty cop just shot someone at the White Sox game last week
Welp they’re gonna catch a massive fine, and their whole security staff is going to hate their jobs for the next few years.
It’s not like they check for concealed carry though. I did security checks for a MLB team for a bit and I definitely waved through guns after they flashed a badge.
Based bakery. If the sporting goods store where they bought the piece makes people not carry and they respect that then they should respect other stores that ask people not to.
Sure, they should be able to turn anyone away, no questions asked.
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Is being a law enforcement officer a protected class?
Saying something like “I refuse to serve you in the basis of your race” is illegal because race is a protected class. Whereas “I refuse to serve you because your Lemmy hit-takes are dumb” is perfectly legal! Same as refusing to serve armed thugs masquerading as the good guys.
I just had a situation with this at work that I talked to my wife about. A customer wanted us to do something with an image that had full frontal nudity and my bosses had to have a discussion about whether or not to allow it. My wife said, “aren’t they required to?” I pointed out that if that was true, we wouldn’t be able to refuse Neo-Nazis.
…Yeah, do you realize how bad taste it is to compare not letting cops in to Jim Crow discrimination against Black folks? Y’know, the people cops kill a lot?
I see what you’re trying to do, but…can you please not.
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Everyone is misunderstanding your post. Add the words “your suggested policy could lead back to” before the sign you were referencing. I only finally got that context by reading the entire thread just now
To you, and that “No colored allowed.”
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Yeah, I know, which is why I said I get where you were coming from, but it was still in poor taste.
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We have had a surprising high number of bakery related controversies. I think I will continue to shop at my local supermarket bakery. I want a cake not to have to make a statement.
Seriously. Far less quicksand, killer bees, crocodiles in sewers, nuclear war, and global cooling than I was brought up to expect.
Far more bakery controversies and fascists than my childhood led me to prepare for, though.
Read the Madness of crowds. He has a whole chapter on the number of people who were fined, imprisoned, murdered over how pointy shows can be and how much or how little facial hair a man can have.
Enjoy your disgusting supermarket cake
I will and you won’t get a single piece.
Sounds like someone wants to have his cake and eat it too lol
I do. Who wouldn’t want that? Are you telling me if infinite cake that always took up the same amount of space was an option you wouldn’t want it?
Then cut their arms off!!! Bwhahaha
/Lamejoke
And surgically replace them with bear arms, which is constitutionally protected!
Take it a step further and say you don’t serve any living cops, but you’d be more than happy to cater their funeral.
Catering to a cop funeral means serving living cops
Based lmfao
cops arnt even people so dont see the prob at all
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Since armed police is not a protected class then I hardly think it matters.
Its fair. Bakers shouldn’t have to serve anyone, for any reason or no reason.
There is no debate, the bakery is private property. Fuck off pigs. Also please immediately respond if I call 911 kthxbye
yes and also yes. They have a job they agreed to do, and fuck them right off into the unemployment line if that hurts their feelings.