• @MJBrune@beehaw.org
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    1152 years ago

    I didn’t know lemmy was full of anti maskers. Wear a mask ffs. You should have kn95s or n95s. They work and prevent all sorts of illness. Even a regular mask works better than nothing. They did plenty of studies.

  • @EremesZorn@beehaw.org
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    152 years ago

    So just make sure you have N95s handy. There’s no reason to panic, but just be prepared if a new strain takes off over the flu season.
    I don’t understand why the comments are so contentious.

  • @Chipthemonk@lemm.ee
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    Masking is not an effective solution. Anyone that propagates this shit is just doing it for clicks at this point.

    Have you read the highly respected Cochrane Review? https://www.cochrane.org/CD006207/ARI_do-physical-measures-such-hand-washing-or-wearing-masks-stop-or-slow-down-spread-respiratory-viruses

    Read the review. It’s the most comprehensive post pandemic study from a highly respected journal. They clearly state the following:

    There is uncertainty about the effects of face masks. The low to moderate certainty of evidence means our confidence in the effect estimate is limited, and that the true effect may be different from the observed estimate of the effect. The pooled results of RCTs did not show a clear reduction in respiratory viral infection with the use of medical/surgical masks. There were no clear differences between the use of medical/surgical masks compared with N95/P2 respirators in healthcare workers when used in routine care to reduce respiratory viral infection. Hand hygiene is likely to modestly reduce the burden of respiratory illness, and although this effect was also present when ILI and laboratory-confirmed influenza were analysed separately, it was not found to be a significant difference for the latter two outcomes. Harms associated with physical interventions were under-investigated.

    If we can’t settle the issue after a 2 year pandemic, I highly doubt it will ever be settled by science.

    Masking is political theater and is ultimately a matter of expressing your tribe at this point. Alternatively, we could think of people who wear masks today as leaning more heavily towards social humanism and hive mentality (society over the individual), where non masks proponents lean towards liberal humanism (in the sense of freedom of the individual, that is, personal liberty).

    Given that the science is inconclusive about masks, and even suggests that they are not effective, it’s about time that news outlets drop the topic. If you want to wear a mask, then do it. But don’t force anyone else to or suggest that governments should regulate it.

    COVID is over. New shit will come. Masks won’t be the solution.

    Edit: downvotes without any proper rebuttal. Classic tribalism at all cost despite the truth.

  • Nightcastle [he/him]
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    172 years ago

    The worst part about masks is how I also got the common cold way less often and didn’t have to smell car exhaust when I walked places. How could I stand wearing this thing?!

  • macabrett [comrade/them, any]
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    1572 years ago

    I want to share my experience as a disabled person, because I think it’s very easy to simply not notice our non-existance:

    I don’t exist anymore. I’m a hermit. It’s been years since I’ve done anything in public. I go to the rheumatologist, I go to a lab to get blood tests, and once a year I get an x-ray to make sure I don’t have TB. I don’t do anything else. There’s about a two week period where being outside isn’t some unbearably high or low temperature that exacerbates my condition.

    Please care about covid. Just, please. Do it for people like me if that helps you, but mostly do it for yourself. This virus can make you like me and it’s miserable (I was sick before Covid, but Covid is known to trigger autoimmune conditions which are the primary cause of my suffering).

    • @mcteazy@sh.itjust.works
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      Hi there - I am also immunocompromised and have 2 exciting autoimmune diseases. I work in an office every day (actually a lab, but regardless).

      Your behaviour is not normal, and you should seek therapy so you can enjoy your life!

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      352 years ago

      100% with you. Haven’t taken my mask off in public in years, and making regular attempts to goad my friends in to putting theirs back on.

    • @neutron@thelemmy.club
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      I’m so sorry for you, man. I had to take care of my parents when covid started (they’re all fine now) and couldn’t stand the mouth breathers thinking only they and themselves mattered.

    • @MDKAOD@lemmy.ml
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      Covid is known to trigger autoimmune conditions

      *waves* Hi, I’m new here. Recent owner of (currently) 12 different autoimmune markers. 😭

        • @MDKAOD@lemmy.ml
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          Scariest part is the discovery and uncertainty of it all. "oh well if it’s scleroderma, you’re dead in 10 years. If it’s just scleroderma Ana, maybe it’s lupus. It could also be this weird ass thing that less than 1000 people in the world have. Well, I mean you have the marker, but it could also be lupus. Maybe MS. Are you still having dysphagia and have you choked on food lately? "

          Excuse me while I gently sway back and forth in the corner over here.

          And don’t get me wrong, I’m not a antivax person, like at all, I have 5 rona shots now. But if someone tries to suggest with 100% absolute certainty that either covid itself or the toll the vaccine took on me didn’t unlock an underlying autoimmune disorder, I’ll kick em. I’m not saying that the vaccine gave me an autoimmune issue. I’m saying it likely existed prior but was the catalyst.

          • starlinguk
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            My shit started about two months after having Covid. Longgg before I got vaccinated. I think some people think it’s the vaccine because problems don’t tend to start right away when you have covid. It takes a while.

  • Max_Power
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    The lesson I’m learning is that we should have worn masks during “flu season” all along. In crowded and poorly ventilated spaces at least. It’s a cheap and easy measure and I don’t know what the BFD is with masks.

  • Captain Howdy
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    1522 years ago

    But fuck it, let’s all just return to the office anyways. Amirite? SMH

  • Whiskey Pickle
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    it’s interesting to see how common it is for people in NYC to still wear them sometimes, especially when on the subway (the air is shitty, so it makes sense).

    I doubt it will be much of a problem here, except for those who always refused. yeah, it sucks, but it’s a lot better than getting sick— or dying.

  • circuitfarmer
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    442 years ago

    BuT wHaT aBoUt the ecoNoMy??!!

    I mean, we didn’t handle any of this well the first time. That goes for most places on the planet. I’m sure we won’t handle it well if it really does go south again.

  • @Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    -32 years ago

    I bet you, that people arent using masks correctly

    You have to use it only once. You cant touch it with your hand, etc etc

    Everyone is gonna wear the same mask over and over

    Its dumb and pointless. But the media mentions it like its the only solution.