Until now this would have been a stupid question - this is my home. But we’re in a strange timeline. My background is I was born in the UK, met first husband, married, got green card, that went tits up, divorced, met husband 2, found forever love, married, naturalized in 2021. Have my passport and everything.
It’s my dad’s birthday, and he lives in the UK. I want to go back and celebrate, but I’m nervous about reentry into the US. I naturalized during the Biden presidency, and I am a Democrat, I feel nervous that I have a target on my back. I have a home and pets here. Am I ridiculous for worrying or should I be cautious about leaving right now?
Consult the chart
You do realise they’ve also been disappearing white people, right?
Hey, how did you get access to the official ICE guidelines video!?
Add queer to the list and also if you’re not a Nazi…
Add “liberal” or even “critical of the president” to that.
The fascist prez: FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
What he actually means:
FREEDOM TO KILL PEOPLE I DON’T LIKE!
Are you white?
Trump immigration raids snag U.S. citizens, including Native Americans, raising racial profiling fears
Those who are getting caught in Immigrations and Customs Enforcement raids are being targeted because of their race or skin color, according to witnesses.
In all fairness they seem to be detaining plenty of white women too
And white men. They detained a German guy and dragged him all over the country.
If it’s the same case I saw, he was gay. So, not exactly not a minority.
Yeah there’s been multiple reports of white Canadian women being detained for weeks before being let go
There have also been multiple articles about administration looking for ways to denaturalize citizens. They may be looking for a victim to try it out on.
And Brits (relevant to OP). But they had the wrong visa.
That’s just what gets the most media because pretty white women getting harassed by ICE will get a lot more clicks than all the brown skinned people getting harassed by ICE
immigration raids snag U.S. citizens, including Native Americans
Amazing. Where are they going to deport them to, the actual state their tribe were from before they were forced out of there and onto a barren reservation?
I know that they’re probably deported to El Salvador because E.S. made bitcoin their national currency.
I know that they’re probably deported to El Salvador because E.S. made bitcoin their national currency.
It looks like it no longer is because it was a failure. I bet they still have a way to launder bribes through their system though
In December, 2024, El Salvador, in an agreement for a $1.4 billion loan from the IMF, agreed to reduce bitcoin purchases, removed the mandatory acceptance of Bitcoin requirement on merchants, will no longer accept tax payments with the asset, and will wind-down its involvement in the Chivo wallet.[77][78]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_in_El_Salvador#Reaction
Don’t risk it. Also, try to make some contingency plans in the event they do kick you out.
Tbh I’m born and raised here, and a straight white cisgender male, and I’m laying groundwork to quickly emigrate as a contingency plan.
Edit: apparently they’re now trying to figure out how to “de-naturalize” naturalized citizens, so that’s fun.
An actual risk assessment would look at % not single incidents
We’re turning into trump supporters with our vilification and exaggeration of real life
You’re ignoring the fact that these “single incidents” are essentially the administration testing what they can get away with. And there’s a lot more than just this one, if you bother to look.
…no, I’m not. They’re very serious, and should be taken as such. But that doesn’t make them an accurate risk assessment in it of an individual incident, you need to look at numbers, for a real risk assessment
And it wouldn’t tell a citizen they are at the same risk as someone on a work visa.
The post was a person with a work visa not a citizen. This is not to say that the US is the safest place to be. My US citizen cousin very recently came to live in the US and they were born and living in a different country for most of their life and they haven’t had any hiccups.
I would probably not come in during Trump’s rule when there are other countries but you do you.
The administration is currently figuring out how to “deport” natural-born citizens to an El Salvadoran Supermax prison that’s notorious for having horrendous conditions. All bets are off, regardless of citizenship. But it’s PARTICULARLY risky if you check any of the following boxes while also not being a natural-born citizen:
- not white
- not male
- not cisgender
- not straight
- not evangelical Christian
- not racist
- not a vocal supporter of the regime
There are real and concrete reasons that so many countries have started issuing travel warnings for the US to their own citizens in the last few months.
I only have the context of a somewhat informed person in a college financial aid office. It’s really the illegal or refugee/asylee population that has to worry right now unless you’re here as a permanent resident and have protested against the ethnic cleansing of Gaza (or as the republicans are calling it, “antisemitism”) on a billion dollar campus.
They don’t have a strategy yet for de-naturalizing naturalized citizens (they are discussing this), but if you’re white and not Muslim, you’re probably not drawing their attention.
You’ve still got a British passport? Consider staying out of trouble, I.e. the US.
At the moment they’re only going after overt political dissidents and brown immigrants. As long as you haven’t penned an oped criticizing Trump you should be fine. Though, I would advise buying a burner phone for the trip. Set up a new account and put a bunch of games on it so it doesn’t look suspicious.
only going after overt political dissidents and brown immigrants
They seem to have detained some white tourists lately as well.
Very. We have a Mad King ruling.
People are being deported to foreign gulags without Due Process: which means, without a trial.
Stay away.
not risky, just more complex. those people in the news are 1 in a million cases, and you very probably wont be the next
Why would you want to come back? Place is a 2nd world shit hole.
FWIW, I have multiple things I should go to in the USA coming up, and neither I nor my family are willing to risk it. My two (young adult) children and I have dual USA - EU country citizenship. My wife had a green card when she lived with me in NYC for over a decade, but turned it in when we moved back long ago. These facts (let alone what my posting history is like) are just too much for us. We won’t risk it.
It’s kind of like a plane crash: very unlikely to happen but you are equally unlikely to walk away unhurt.
As a PRC-Born, Naturalized* US Citizen, I do not feel safe entering/exiting the US borders right now. I told my PRC-Citizen father and grandmother (who lives with us) to not do any border crossings.
*technically it’s Derivative Citizenship, Green Card holders under the age of 18 automatically become a citizen if one of the parents become a citizen
If I were a cis-gender white person born in the US, I would probably feel okay crossing borders if I don’t have tattos and don’t have a high-profile anti-trump publicity. I would still wipe any phone before border crossings, load it up photos of my cat, and random nature photos I’ve taken. Zero political content on the device.
You said you naturalized during Biden’s presidency, which means you’ve been citizen for less than 5 years. During this time period, if the government believes you are a terrorist, or a member of a “communist” or “totalitarian” party, they could revoke your citizenship. So maybe wait till 5 years + 1 day after your naturalization just to be safe.
But consider permanent emigration to UK, in case things get worse in the US (I’m not saying to do it now, but keep in mind the possibility).
Edit: So if you natualize in January 1, 2021, I’d wait till January 3, 2026, to be extra safe.
But remember, this administration is gonna try to find every legal justification they can if they really want to get you.
My coworker who grew up in the soviet union and just moved here from a country trump hates had no problem recently
You’re not ridiculous for worrying, but I think you’ll be okay. Since we’ve got a bigot running the show, it’ll help even more if you’re white (I hate saying that, but that’s the situation).
The future is another thing to consider. I assume that the situation for immigrants will only get worse, and turn into a complete shitshow when Mango Mussolini goes for his third term. This might be the least precarious time to leave the U.S. for several years. Make your trip count.
The scary thing is we have no clue. But they do seem to be racist in their targeting, so if you look white, I’d imagine you’d have a much lower risk.
