“It was never about ‘legal’ immigration, but always about upholding white supremacy,” said one human rights lawyer.

    • @unmagical@lemmy.ml
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      Why are citizens on there 3 times when they are indistinguishable categories and why are they so far to the right when he’s already publicly talked about sending citizens to the torture prison?

          • @Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world
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            Birthright citizens are those that are born on US soil but their parents weren’t citizens of the US. Naturalized citizens are those that took a test and forsaken their former country’s citizenship to become citizens of the US. Citizens are those that were born on US soil and their parents were also citizens of the US.

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                You do if you’re from a country that doesn’t allow dual citizenship. I mean, it’s not a requirement on the U.S. side, but still.

                • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed
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                  You don’t actually need to renounce it. I have acquired US Citizenship by Derivation and my citizenship in People’s Republic of China is automatically revoked.

                  I mean, they probably didn’t know until my US Citizen mom went back to China for a visit, and since US laws are not some secret, they know I’m a US Citizen by Derivation, so I’m no longer a PRC citizen.

                • edric
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                  Even with countries that allow dual citizenship, in some cases you have to re-acquire your previous citizenship because you automatically renounce it after getting US citizenship. It’s usually just a simple process of showing proof and swearing in front of a consular officer.

            • @unmagical@lemmy.ml
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              They are all citizens. They have all the same rights. Trump won’t draw any distinction between them. Trump has already been attacking the rights of everyone, including citizens.

              The graphic implies a sequence or hierarchy (à la “First they came”) with Trump either planning to destroy each pillar himself or have them toppled like dominoes. However, this does not accurately reflect the nature of the attacks that have already occurred. Trump did not step through a hierarchy, he attacked everyone that he perceived as a threat to his power–much more similarly to a bomb placed in the middle of the pillars toppling all at once.

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                They are all citizens. They have all the same rights. Trump won’t draw any distinction between them.

                He has very specifically been going after birthright citizenship and has deported children born here because their parents weren’t citizens. That gains it its own category in the cartoon.

    • @conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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      I was constantly reminded of my native heritage by my parents while growing up in Oklahoma; they always argued what stupid fraction of which tribe we were. Of course, there’s no documentation. I did the genealogy a while back, and it turns out I’m so fucking white that I could make snow get deported by ICE; I’m, like, pronounce the H white. Anyway, so much to say that being sent back to England, while certainly a punishment, would be getting off easy, all things considered.

      Edit: I don’t consider myself a racist, I just suffer from skimming. I just re-read the post :(

    • @Lucky_777@lemmy.world
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      I love Native Americans. You guys are the only ones that truely belong here. I just hope that you let us Dems and independents that hate the GOP stay.

      • @wanderwisley@lemm.ee
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        As long as we are all united together and show love and kindness to each other, regardless of our heritage or gender background everything will eventually be better for us all. It is very hard to be optimistic in these times and to offer words of encouragement, but as long as you have love and are willing to share your thoughts I feel that eventually things will improve. The power and greed of a few weak men will pass, and the power of the people will always stand tall.

    • slingstone
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      I’ve got Cherokee ancestry back about two generations. Can I stay?

        • slingstone
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          Sadly, I have to work not to hate the MAGA people. That in itself makes it hard not to hate them; I don’t want to hate anyone, but they are sooo hateful, if that makes any sense.

          • @wanderwisley@lemm.ee
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            I understand where you are coming from I live in a small town of only 4000 people and I’m pretty sure 95% of them hard-core Trump supporters. Honestly, I just ignore them and just listen to their nonsense and laugh to myself internally.

  • @Greyghoster@aussie.zone
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    The Morrison government in Australia told all the temporary workers, backpackers, international students, tourists to go home during Covid and Australia is still paying the price of economic dislocation. A lot of these people worked on farms, in cafes, construction, hospitals etc and we had massive problems because him thought they were a burden.

    • @TheLiveFive@lemm.ee
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      Americans refuse to learn from history or the rest of the world. We are so exceptional it is offensive for you to act like we would be burdened with what troubled others.

  • The white house account-posted video of immigrants being deported to “Nana na na, hey hey hey, goodbye” really is just, “we are inhuman and evil” in blinking neon letters.

    • Leon
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      Though it’s not like we needed any more proof. Musk’s family has historically been racist Nazis going back well over a hundred years, and Trump’s racism is what made him famous to begin with. The rapes etc. are really just cherries on top.

      • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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        HitlerPig’s old man was a notorious and famous racist, who ran afoul of the Federal government many times for his openly racist rental polices. Woody Guthrie even wrote a song about him.

        • Leon
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          His maternal grandfather thought that Hitler and Nazi Germany was a Jewish conspiracy. He was such a big Nazi that even Hitler wasn’t Nazi enough. Like, what the hell.

  • don
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    If the left ever takes the presidency again, they should throttle the absolute fuck out of the right for this degeneracy. Fuck being nice, retribution is fucking owed.

    • @Baggie@lemmy.zip
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      Assuming you’re talking about democrats here, I wish they would, but I don’t think they ever will. I would argue that line was good as crossed years ago, they’ve got no spine to adjust to the fact that mutual cooperation died years ago. They’re literally just in it for the money, they aren’t idealists or even someone with a moral core.

      • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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        They will spout some nonsense about “being the time for coming together as a country” or “reaching across the aisle” because “there is good in every man and woman”

    • Lka1988
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      Don’t worry, they’ll get a strongly-worded finger wagging, that’ll definitely teach them.

  • Maple Engineer
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    I bet the Trumpers are really looking forward to working as farm workers and hotel maids.

  • @courageousstep@lemm.ee
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    The link to the Panama concentration camp article is explicit and nauseating. Y’all, it’s a concentration camp, right down to the cages and lack of food and shelter.

    The USA officially has concentration camps. And since Trump has revoked the visas of international college students and immigrants who came in legally under a policy set in motion by Biden, he is preparing to put anyone and everyone in those camps.

    • KSP Atlas
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      To be fair, the US has had concentration camps for hundreds of years (starting in the 1830s for holding natives)

      • @courageousstep@lemm.ee
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        Yes. I suppose I should add this: modern-day, “average” Americans have been fed the false narrative of American greatness and equality of opportunity their entire lives. This particular concentration camp flies in the face of that narrative and is living, breathing proof that the USA is a violent, racist country obsessed with the “in group=humans” and “out-group=animals” ideology.

        And the horrors of this camp and a bit of the cognitive dissonance between that false narrative and the reality of what is happening cause nausea.

    • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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      We’re already expanding our own Black Site.

      America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. The average maximum security prison holds 800-1200 prisoners. The largest, Angola, LA, holds over 8000.

      Our most famous black site, Guantanamo Bay, located in CUBA (WTF?), currently holds about 120. They are now building a facility there, that will hold 30,000 prisoners. That’s nearly 4 times our largest prison, which is already about 8 times larger than average.

      The question is: Who do they intend to put in that new facility, which is far from any oversight by the media or the courts. It’s in fucking Cuba, which is controlled by…well, you get it.

      I was a victim of the recent Reddit bloodbath, with a 12 year/ 900K+ karma account. Clearly, they reviewed my high-volume posting account, and they know how I feel about them, and the punishments they have earned. I expect that at some point, there is a pretty good chance I’ll be getting a free vacation to Cuba.

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        Cuba does not want them there. They want the US out of Guantanamo and have for a long time.

        Basically the US-friendly pre-revolution government gave the US a perpetual lease to the land. After the revolution the Communist government wanted them out but they don’t really have the military power to force them. The US still sends them checks (which they don’t cash) for whatever pittance the old agreement listed so they can claim it’s “legal”. That territory is completely under US oversight, there is no land connection to it.

        Don’t blame Cuba. They’re cool, and if you ever get a chance to visit you definitely should. It was very cheap when I went. Cheap flight from Miami and very cheap Airbnb in downtown Old Havana. Beautiful, safe, and full of history and kind people.

  • @orcrist@lemm.ee
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    Washington Dems who have tried to be pro-border security are part of the problem. A major part. Their support for racist xenophobic policies made it easier for the average American to lose sight of basic human equality.

    In reality Trump wants all of these people to stay, and stay undocumented, so they can be used as borderline slave labor. The problem is that when Democrats talk about being tough on immigration, they may get easier for him to get away with evil policies like this. What worries me more is that I think many of those Democrats actually believed in their anti-immigrant racist xenophobic policies.

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      Washington Dems who have tried to be pro-border security are part of the problem.

      Because that’s what Democratic voters want.

      Most democrats are not leftists, they are liberals.

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        Meh. I’m not sure how much I really believe this vs. the only candidates with the financial backing and media platform to get noticed in primaries tend to be the corpocentrists.

        • @Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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          What data do you need to leave your bubble? Issue polling, favorability polling, revealed preference, actual vote share? Americans, by a wide margin, want. Less legal immigration and stricter enforcement of immigration law — including detention and deportation.

          It’s the unfortunate reality.

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            Okay, first of all, I was questioning your assertion. We should always be willing to critically examine our beliefs, or we’d still be beholden to the divine right of kings.

            Second, while I appreciate that that’s the current state of affairs, I think that no small part of it is due to Overton window drift and nobody being willing to stick their neck out and present a bold alternative vision for people to adopt. All we have is “Mexicans bad” and everything from “Mexicans bad lite” to “[pride flags][si se puede] Mexicans okay ish”. You don’t see anyone calling for taking a hammer to the system that makes immigration so fucked up in the first place.

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          Anecdote, so maybe my perception is biased:

          My older brother is a racist asshole that, even though he vote democrats, he is very anti-immigration and doesn’t like how “black people and mexicans are getting too much welfare”, think immigration should be more strict, even though we are immigrants. Fits right Harris’ “Secure the Borders” rhetoric. (He voted Harris btw)

          My parents also think the Democrats are being too leinient on immigrarion, and that “illegals” are draining all the benefits.

          But they don’t see how the republicans don’t care about “legal” or “illegal”, its a dogwhistle referring to all immigrants.

          But fortunately, I convinced my mom to vote Democrats.

          Many of my relatives in NYC are also registered democrats. When we were in NYC, my relatives and my mother’s friends all had the sentinment to vote democrats. (I was able to verify that some of my relatives were registered as Democrat, since its public info in New York) During family gatherings, and sometimes through WeChat calls that my parents make to relative and friends, they go “How are you doing” then like 5 minutes later “Oh yea thing are crazy, these Democrats are mishandling the ‘Migrant Crisis’, they letting these ‘violent’ people going around out and get welfare…” [Conversation is in Cantonese of course] And from what I can hear, both side of the call was agree with the “Democrats too weak on immigration” sentinment. (They put their calls on loudspeaker when I wanted some silence 😕) They are all first-generation immigrants.

          I’m just like: 🙄…

          So these people are quite common, unfortunately. Harris was pandering to these people.

    • @whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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      Borderline slave labour? They want to arrest these fuckers and put them in interment camps and have them work for free. 5th amendment. Racist motherfuckers drilling slavery into the constitution.

  • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    All immigration law in the US has always been about upholding white supremacy. That is why the first federal immigration law was called the Asian Exclusion Act.

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      and at least 2 universities have anti-asian sentiment because “too many asians in thier historically white university”

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        At least he walked back his bullshit on the measles vaccination. He really needs to walk his ass off of a tall cliff, but hey, beggars can’t be choosers.

    • @takeda@lemm.ee
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      Those are jobs not only Americans don’t want, but there is not enough to fill.

      We already had a low unemployment.

      • @orclev@lemmy.world
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        Don’t worry, they’re working hard to pump up those unemployment numbers as well. Not going to be long before people are starving in the streets, not because there’s no food, but because the average person just won’t be able to afford it.

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        Americans want them. The employers won’t pay what the job market demands. When eggs are rare the price rises. When labor is it’s always “labor’s fault” huh? Not that very same market.

        If it is required for life, health, home, or education, it should not be allowed to profit.

        • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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          Gee, it’s almost like some hostile foreign leader had paid him a few billion dollars to destroy America, but that’s ludicrous, right? Right?

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            I think he tries to convert America to Russia. Consolidate all power, make people so miserable that they won’t have time to protest as they will be figuring out how to survive.

          • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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            I was told all during his first illegitimate term that talking about Russia was super-naughty and bad. The people doing some of the very most lecturing on this - well, first of all, it was mostly the unhinged right-wing, true (while they were all-in on qanon/pizzagate nuttery), but next up was a whole lot of supposed leftists and of course the mainstream centrist “liberal media” right behind that…

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    DHS claimed Monday that “the Biden administration abused the parole authority to allow millions of illegal aliens into the U.S. which further fueled the worst border crisis in U.S. history.”

    How are they “illegal aliens” (ignoring for the moment the dehumanization inherent to the phrase), if they were officially allowed to enter and then did?

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      If I were to guess it would be because Biden is the one who let them in. And Trump is on a kick to literally undo everything that Biden has done in the last 4 years including wrecking our improved economy. It’s all Trump cares about.

      He did the same thing in 2016. Moved very quickly to wreck nearly everything that Obama had anything to do with. So that he could come back in a couple of years and try to fix all of it. Badly, I might add.

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    In yet another Trump administration attack on migrants, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on Monday announced that nearly 1 million migrants who entered the country legally using a Customs and Border Protection mobile application must leave “immediately” or face consequences including potential criminal prosecution.

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    Any country willing to take a disabled parasite in? Because once they are done with “illegal immigrants” the “parasites” are next.

    On the bright side, at least I won’t have to deal with snow anymore.