I wonder what the insurance premium on a Tesla is these days?
The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”
Probably about the same as any other car.
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a 2015 Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) study found that the Tesla Model S had higher claim frequencies, severities and overall losses than comparable large luxury cars. The higher claim severity was thought to be attributed to the car’s battery replacement cost — a whopping $16,000.
So teslas insurance has always been more expensive, and this sure isn’t going to help.
I’d imagine that they’ll be more expensive to insure in the future if they are getting targeted en masse.
If red cars are more expensive to insure, a tesla has to be more expensive too, right?
No, my 2019 model 3 is almost twice as expensive as my son’s 2023 Prius.
I read something earlier in the week about a tesla dealership being vandalised here in N Ireland. Might be a worldwide thing.
Antifa, perhaps the greatest threat to Nazi automobile manufacturers the world has ever known.
I doubt antifa would control anything in Belfast (every video I’ve seen of them was them causing trouble and getting absolutely battered in response) Belfast isn’t shy on psychopaths and likely never will be.
So yeah I doubt antifa has the slightest bit of influence here.
I’m not too concerned about the dealerships. They have insurance. But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed. That’s not Canadian.
Tesla doesn’t have dealerships. All sales locations are corporate owned.
Furthers my point then.
Actually, it’s the exact opposite of your point.
The point where I made that I don’t give a stuff about the dealerships?
Okay.
Imagine someone messes up my ev, insurance gets me a new ev?
Sure. I assume that will work.
The point?
Nothing lost then, same status as dealership. Only slightly more inconvenienced since its their car but even then they get a rental from insurance company.
So the same goes if the Tesla is carrying a family in it and some fella goes and brake checks it? Or runs it off the road?
That’s not vandalism. That’s like murder.
Okay cool. Cause that where this is headed. I’ve seen I videos of it. I’m afraid it’s only a matter of time until some fuckstick that thinks he’s helping the cause and goes too far.
This is the point I’m trying to make.
Wow. will i hope you are very wrong about that prophecy. Im all for insurance paying up but unless the car has nazi flags I see no point of going that hard.
But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed.
No. We need to make fascists afraid again. If you don’t want to be bothered for owning a Klankar, then stop owning a Klankar.
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By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi. Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?
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Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.
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It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.
Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.
By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi.
Is Henry Ford, right now, at this moment, a Nazi?
Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?
Is 3M and Bayer today, at this moment, supporting Nazis?
Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.
Ok, we’re not talking about the past right now. We’re talking about the current situation. If they are left-leaning, as you imply, they understand the need to NOT display actively in use Nazi symbols and paraphernalia.
It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.
Then they can park it, cover it with a tarp, and use public transportation. Or, ride bike. Or, use rideshare.
Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.
No, it’s principled: You NEVER show support for nazis, regardless of how inconvenient it is for you.
So in other words, you’ll remain childish and reductive. That would have been much shorter than reading your drivel.
It’s far more childish to be unable to stick to principles. Children will punch another child for a cookie… adults know not to, and ones that punch people for cookies are held in contempt by society.
Your stance would be the former: do whatever is easy.
The other commentator is right. Its easy to tell someone “just sell your car and walk” or whatever when you are not directly affected by the change you are asking someone else to make. Take a second and think of all the injustices in the world YOU are indirectly, involuntarily complicit in and what it might mean to be targeted for that reason. It is for this we offer charity to others, and therein is a clear line between wearing a nazi pin as a symbol and driving a Tesla, literally an appliance.
The right thing to do is often not easy.
Let me guess, you’d be OK with turning in a person hiding migrants, because it’s easier to do that?
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afraid of what? These people are going to get caught and made examples of and honestly most of the world are not big fans of assaulting other people by proxy. Like I’m not okay going to break the windows in your acura because I think you bought a vehicle where the CEO turned asshole after the fact.
This was funny for a minute. But continuing to do it looks like we’re just a bunch of stupid childish cunts.
afraid of what?
Afraid of being associated with a fascist.
This was funny for a minute.
It was never funny, it was, and is, just great to see.
Most of the world is raping and pillaging lol most people are blank slates that do what they are told.
Look at MAGA for proof and all the proof from other countries that are fucking MAGA, too.
Look at the religions we made to try to put the fear of God into people to stop killing each other.
Come the fuck on.
I’m not following sorry
So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just go sell their vehicle that they are more than likely underwater on with the loan and can’t just pivot.
Nuance my friend.
I bought mine 6 years ago. I’m going to get rid of it but had to change plans because my son’s car just died. I wouldn’t blame anyone that vandalized my car. It should be expected.
Mine has been debadged for years but I just put BYD badges on it. I doubt too many people will know what that is but I hope someone gets a chuckle.
Here’s a thought… Pre-vandalize it.
Get some white paint that won’t damage your car, and write “Fuck Musk”, or “Swasticar” so it looks like it’s been keyed into your paint. Maybe grab a quality “cracked window” decal and slap it on the glass. Finally, take your bumper covers off.
Then when (or if) this shit cools off, you can just wash the car, peel the decal and re-attach your bumper covers.
And then park it front of a Tesla sales center?
I have a friend that does EV conversions of RAM Promaster vans. I wouldn’t mind using my car to do a conversion and then build it out for a class b camper van.
This mentality is frighteningly close to one that justifies vandalism on businesses because they use temporary foreign workers. I don’t condone the destruction of private property owned by the rank and file of life. It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm
It is directly hurting the person doing the actual harm. It’s not the vandals’ fault that he used innocents as his human shield.
No one cares what you do or don’t condone. You’re no one.
And neither are you in the grand scheme. However what you are condoning will just radicalize the message and have it not resonate with those who’s help we will need in the future if this collapse actually comes about
It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm
They are doing actual harm, by not being afraid of any association, regardless of how weak, to a fascist.
Yer heart is in the right place.
I hope you can gain perspective.
So, the time has come that people need to ask themselves: Are they willing to be associated with a fascist, in any way? If they are ok with that, why?
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It should not be expected. Its ok to say that. Nobody has any fuck up your property.
You do you I guess.
It’s okay to say we don’t agree with you either. Deal. With. It.
Go back to the times of Hitler, and imagine that you suddenly found out he owned the brand and proudly explained that those driving it represented his will.
I’m sure you’d find a way to sell it then.
Sell what exactly? Trying to be rational in an increasingly irrational world?
I suspect they would NOT be in a rush to sell, given their comments.
yikes that’s embarrassing
Depends on the model. People are mostly attacking cybertrucks in the wild.
If it’s cybertruck, the owner knew, or chose not to know.
Must be rough bring a CT owner. First, your vehicle depreciates 50-100k, then it starts falling apart, and now everyone hates you for it.
Still don’t feel bad for them though.
So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?
Why are they still driving them, then?
Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.
Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.
Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.
So, sell it, get a different one. Many companies make EVs now.
Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.
But they are willing to show undwindling support of a fascist fucking over everyone financially… No matter how evil the intention is.
I totally understand where yer coming from. And I hope that those who can decouple themselves from it, do so. But like hell I’m going to endorse harassing people without context. All that does is endorse extremism. Extreme acts can be condoned, but I sure hope you have a plan for afterwards. If not, you’ve just become what you are railing against.
You have the context: they are still showing their support for a fascist state, and this is worthy of harassment, as a matter of community defense.
Would you defend a woman wearing her grandpa’s swastika pin, for any reason, or is that enough context, in that case?
We, as a society, are swinging back to making displays of fascism unacceptable. That’s all the needed context.
Except they came out after it was pretty well known he was one. He’s been a known piece of shit for a while now.
Most were on this guys jock until he threw his support behind the fuckstick
To be fair, one of my neighbors bought one years before he knew about this, I don’t believe he had any idea. I don’t necessarily think he should have his car burned.
This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right. They have no social intelligence. They’re out for blind rage blood. On the left and the right these people have that bipolar energy and rise to the top becoming our new voices of reason.
This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right
There are people who support a fascist, and those who oppose them, and those just waiting to see who wins.
Which side are you on?
This is as narrow an understanding of things as any Republican which is my point. But can’t call that out right that would make me a centrist even though I’m not. Can’t be critical or you’re labeled a “them”
There are flowers that smell pretty and there’s flowers that look pretty and there are those that aren’t really flowers but trees. Which ones do you like?
So, are you opposed to fascism, for it, or just waiting for the winner?
Or, what’s your other option here? I fail to see any other at this time.
I don’t really think in terms of fascism. It doesn’t seem like an accurate way to think here
Don’t blame this on the “left”. “Ubergeek” is just a moron.
No one cares what you hate, again, you are no one.
I’m literally one
Left: 2+2=4 Right: 2+2=5 Center: 2+2=4.5 (You: “Both sides have good things to offer!”)
Totally makes sense
Sounds like one of your neighbors just needs to stop driving the Klankar, then.
Also, car dealerships are the backbone of local conservative party funding. They are the financial backbone of the fascist movement
I’ll use my fucking free speech to flip off teslas while I still fucking can. Until you physically stop me you will deal with it.
Flip them off all you’d like. That’s fine.
When you start brake checking people just cause? I don’t think yer doing the cause any favours.
Flipping off people didn’t work, it got the left wing threats of being sent to an El Salvadorean prison. I don’t approve or disapprove of the Tesla vandals but you bet your ass it’s working. It’s sad that it works and I hate it.
But here’s you with a Republican dick in your mouth: “Stop fighting guys, gargle”
This is a very typical ad hominem attack on someone’s political beliefs. Especially coming from someone who probably doesn’t think much farther past what they’re going to eat for the day, or how drunk they’re going to get on the weekend. I’m not going to insult you back because it’s very clear that yer a low information individual who’s more concerned with breaking stuff, rather than trying to repair and move on.
Life long NDP voter btw. But I’m sure you’ll just scoff at this and continue to throw low IQ insults around.
I see, you’re in Canada. I’m an American. You don’t understand my fear. You only have to deal with tariffs, I mean that sucks but my government is literally turning fascist, you get to just buy Canadian and move on. You don’t and can’t know what that’s like… Don’t try unless you plan to sympathize.
Well at least I’m glad you don’t understand my fear. If you did you’d be in our position.
Also nice job not insulting me, I counted 3 but it’s ok I think you’re angry. I’m angry too. Don’t be angry at me though. Be angry at the bully, not the victim.
What a typical twat American response.
Me: <a reasonable argument followed by empathy>
You: Twat!
Lol. It’s fine, I give you permission to keep your anger at all Americans. It’s actually probably better that way, we deserve it.
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hell yeah
At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.
Tesla’s aren’t selling?
- Set them on fire.
- Claim that it’s arson.
- File insurance claim.
- Profit.
I don’t hear Alex Jones screaming about inside jobs.
Probably because he’s way too far up EMu’s ass.
“It’s a fact: jet fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to make steel girders melt! It was the lithium-ion batteries from a Model Y and a Cybertruck fired by railgun into the Twin Towers, with Dick Cheney and Saul of Saul’s 3rd Avenue Deli pulling the triggers. People seen jumping out of windows were actually trans crisis actors wearing batwing suits, who nowadays tour encampments of Venezuelan gang members and Haitian cat rustlers across the Heartland with their drag, Spanish-language version of Hamilton. Buy my supplements!”
Whoa, sorry, don’t know what came over me there.
He’s still around? Whatever happened to people knowing when to call it quits and leave everyone’s lives… I swear, ever since the 2000’s and onward people just kind of stick around forever now. Guess that’s another awful side effect of the internet.
He sure is and I hear you! It’s unbelievable how cringy his show is now.
One of my favorite podcasts where they spend an ungodly amount of time dissecting his horseshit and laughing at him.
Upvote for Knowledge Fight!
I used to listen to Alex Jones for fun way before he was big. It was genuinely entertaining. Then Sandyhook happened and it wasn’t so funny anymore.
Knowledge Fight is like finding friends to make fun of Alex Jones with :)
Such a great podcast! Absolute Talmudic in its thoroughness.
‘Know Rogan’ is a pretty good new addition if you haven’t checked it out yet.
I’ll check it out!
I count myself among the lucky who has never heard that overgrown thumb talk for longer than a sound bite.
I mean if they are the ones setting them on fire they don’t need to claim it is arson since it is. They just need to claim they weren’t the arsonists.
Probably. Unfortunately side effect is it constantly reinforce in people, “wow people really hate teslas” and further damaging the brand. I find it hard to believe Canadians would due this kind of a thing. Not that they couldn’t, i just have a hard time believing it.
Tesla doesn’t have dealerships. All sales centers are corporate owned.
I don’t think that bit of syntax changes the point at all.
It does. A dealership is an independent entity. If cars were purposely being damaged, it would be Tesla doing that and not another company that sells Tesla vehicles.
The corporate structure is not what the grandparent is referring to, it’s committing arson to defraud insurance that he’s really referring to. Any other “aKsHuALlY” details you added are distinctions without difference.
There is a huge difference between an independently owned franchise committing arson vs the manufacturer.
Keep up the good work, brothers!
Is Tesla sabotaging their own cars in order to commit insurance fraud?
I’m not giving up my -shot-
I am of the opinion that no one should be vandalizing property that they don’t own themselves. Protest, sure (following whatever laws Canada has in place for that), don’t buy a Tesla, sure, encourage everyone you’ve ever met not to buy one, fine, but please respect the right of people who don’t want their stuff vandalized.
Also, while dealerships have insurance, doing this just makes the insurance go up for everyone. But that’s not my point. People shouldn’t vandalize the property of others because they really, really, really x5, don’t like Elon.
I’m not an Elon or Trump apologist, I’m just someone fighting on the side of civilized behavior.
It’s believed to be the largest vandalism in Canada against vehicles from the U.S.-based car company.
This strikes me as an odd qualifier.
Have there been larger vandalism incidents in Canada against vehicles from companies based in countries outsides the states?
Maybe your question should have been ‘have there been ANY’ valdalism incidents… Before now
Not larger no, that’s what they are saying… I get you though but no… Had there been similar or close to this? Dunno … This language is just coming from the US admin to make it seem like an attack the us. Rather than on Elon musk himself and his values and actions, which it is.
Remember a guy telling it is more efficient to paint over sold Tesla to discourage buyers. But we have to admit news of burning Tesla is pretty discouraging too.
Seems like the thought is: if you paint a Tesla you prevent the sale of that one Tesla, but if you burn one, the entire populace has second thoughts about buying any Tesla.
Thoughtslator ?
Thots & playas
Awe shucks. I could not stoop to vandalism and destruction of the shitty neo-Nazi BEVs. I would prefer the vehicles to be unsold and collect dust until Tesla enters bankruptcy. Tesla, himself, must have flipped in his grave several times.
Nah. Tesla would be alternating in his grave.
Largest case of insurance fraud from an automaker**
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