I’m wondering if I should just delete lemmy to stay under the radar. 🤔 (I’m a US Citizen currently residing in the US, and moving out of the country is not really an option)
I feel so conflicted on this. On one hand, this is kinda like giving in to authoritarianism, but on the other hand, dissenting is kinda dangerous. 😓
very unlikely.
If they do it’ll end up being like less than 5% to make an example out of them.
if that does happen start using and supporting services like i2p and monero.
and use them to organize activities that involves torches and pitchforks.
that’s one of the things you can do via those, though you don’t really need darknet software to organize them, i suppose it wouldn’t be bad for insurance.
Many people commenting of the difficulties in prosecuting people for anti Trump settlements. More likely they will “release” this information for the wider public(maga linch mob)
I hope my fellow Philadelphians who voted Harris with 50+% margin will protect me from the mobs 😖
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Same reason the people on 9/11 stayed in their seats - they thought they’d be fine if they waited it out.
Except for the one plane where they just crashed into the ground
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Less likely if we are gun owners
Gun rights are for everyone. Unironically everyone capable of responsibly owning a gun should. But you won’t get magically good with one if you never train.
If you have a friend who already has guns ask to join them on the range to learn the basics. If not find a class to learn safe gun handling, then go to the range to practice and build skill. Guns are a serious and powerful tool, but like most serious and powerful tools when you use them safely you have a ton of fun too!
From there if you really want to be as effective as you can learning how to move and communicate well is the next step. And that can be practiced via video games, airsoft, hiking etc.
Only if people collectiely excercise that right by forming a militia, otherwise they’ll just raid your houses individually one by one and take your guns.
Ironically, its less likely for people who aren’t right-wing to have guns. Blue states, and especially Blue cities make it so difficult for people to get a gun due to all the permits you have to obtain from the police department, who would just find bs reasons to deny your permit because you know, pigs be pigs.
Lots of states allow private sales with no background checks required. People should see if they live in/near one.
If so hop on mewe, or some other social site, grab some cash and get you one! Gun shows are awesome for this too.
Still can’t carry guns outside your hosue without a permit in Philadelphia. So you won’t be able to defend yourself when you go about the city and some armed nazi mob start threatening you.
If you have a gun and they raid your hosue, they now have a legal right to kill you no matter what you do since you are now a threat with deadly force.
Sure and they can just as easily shoot you no matter what and say it was a phone, you were reaching for something etc
Correct but would having gun lower or increase your chances at getting killed tho
That’s the question here
In a house? With cops raiding it? If you grabbed a gun to defend yourself odds are you would be killed. If it comes to that particular scenario, gun or not, your odds weren’t that great to begin with
A persecution fetish is a hard drug for gun owners, among other idiots.
You’re right. We should trust the police to protect us. After all, it’s not like our police departments are filled with right-wingers who have a track record of regularly murdering innocent civilians or anything…
…Oh wait, that’s riiiiight…
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(Of course, I realise arguing with an American about guns is a fool’s errand but sometime you’ve got to try.)
OK so hypothetically let’s suppose a right-wing cop has decided to add you to his list of murdered innocent civilians, has parked his car on the boundary of your house and is walking towards you.
At what point exactly do you get your gun out and shoot first? Spell it out please, I’d really like to understand how this plays out.
Please include the response of his partner who is still in the car, what that partner radios back to base, and describe the multiple responses of those who will now respond to the reports of a cop-killer. Explain how you think the resulting siege will play out and describe exactly how you win this scenario (where “win” is defined in terms of you living and not going to jail).
As if the deterrent effect is from the possibility of suicide by cop instead of, idk, a critical mass within a community of armed people. It’s not like around 2019/20 we saw, firsthand, that when violence against cops increased their willingness to make frivolous stops decreased. But please, continue strawmanning this as some weird scenario where people are saying that suicide by cop will stop oppression.
Gee, that sounds like you’re asking me to plan out a crime that someone could prosecute someone for in this day and age. I’ll be sure to inform my local Democracy Officer or DOGE official about this conversation, as any upstanding freedom-loving citizen would.
Besides, I’ve already agreed with you. American cops are definitely trustworthy, and always uphold their duty to protect and serve the American people. Surely they would never harm the citizens they are hired to defend!
Ok dude when they come to take you from your home and put you in the camps I’m sure you will be happy you are unarmed and defenseless.
I love seeing little clones parroting the same anti-gun BS they’ve been spooned for the last 3 decades like fascists aren’t seizing power right now.
No kidding. I mean, this is finally the moment that Madison predicted two centuries ago! A fascist has seized control over the government, and is illegally detaining people. Rise up my US gun-lovers! Rise against the dictators and claim control of your country from…
Oh wait, you’re the ones who got him elected? Nevermind.
You can’t expect those on the opposite political spectrum to do stuff for you
Extremely unlikely. Not for another 20 years or so, worst case scenario, and by then they probably won’t care about now.
First off, there’s way too many people who criticize the government to arrest everyone, secondly it’s completely unnecessary. Complaining about the government doesn’t really do anything other than allowing people to vent their frustrations and feel more content. It’s the same way Trump obviously isn’t going to “end elections forever” like people say, virtually every country in the world has elections, regardless of how actually democratic they are, because they’re a nice little ritual that lets you feel free and in control. It would be like saying that Trump is going to knock down the Statue of Liberty - he doesn’t have to.
Now, there are reasons to establish more secure lines of communication, like if you’re involved in actual organizing or if you’re either helping people do illegal things or planning to help people do things that could potentially become illegal - for example, shipping Plan B or trans hormones to people in red states. Laws in some red states about “pushing transgenderism on minors” could theoretically be interpreted so broadly that if you post information or supportive messages on a public forum and a minor in a red state happens to see it, they could try to come after you for it - but that would probably be found unconstitutional.
Using secure lines of communication for routine, everyday stuff helps keep those lines secure by generating more chaff they’d have to sort through, as well as familiarizing yourself with it and getting more people on board. However, you shouldn’t scatter to the wind preemptively and self-censor, beyond just not fed-posting.
Honestly Lemmy is way too small to be monitored and acted upon.
So even though the question is interesting I think deleting Lemmy because of the current administration is an over reaction.
On the contrary you probably have the opportunity to freely dissent here when others on mainstream socials networks can’t.
But I’m European so it’s easy for me to say that this is probably safe here. You have to evaluate the risk yourself but I think no administration gives a single sh** about Lemmy.
All? Unlikely. But some? A lot harder to say. You’re asking for an opinion-based prediction at this point. I think they’ll probably eventually try to get the most outspoken critics, but I also think that’s a good time to not go silent. You get organized.
The worst they can do is kill you. Your gonna die eventually anyway, might as well do it for a good cause.
Oh, torture is worse.
Death is a relief in comparison.
Take as many out before they do
My solution is to VPN everything out of country. Not a single packet exits without going through a double hop VPN, with both hops being outside the Fourteen Eyes.
On top of that I run an ad/tracking blocking DNS server that’s updated pretty frequently.
Well, if I know my lore, the fediverse, Lemmy included, was created by self avowed communists.
And if the Luigi shenanigans, that is to say the censorship brought to bear on any discussion of the man or his alleged crime, have shown us anything; it’s that the powers that be very much fear a class war. Besides wich commies have long been a favorite windmill to tilt at.
I think it’s safe to assume anything posted on here gets logged and analyzed.
That having been said, eat the rich, free Palestine, and healthcare for all!!
(As a German living here) I doubt it. It’s bad but it’s still not China-level bad - and even in China they don’t arrest literally everyone. If you’re a foreign national living in the US however, you should be a bit more careful.
even in China they don’t arrest literally everyone
Which reminds me:
How the fuck did CCP-Critics such Youtubers serpentza and laowhy86 survive so long in China without getting prison sentence or getting deported?
Like, they were literally making videos critical of CCP while in China but they were fine. 🤔
I just hope I get the same luck as they did.
I watched those 2 channels some time ago too. I think they’ve become more and more CCP-critical over time though. I remember their videos almost 10 years ago being quite uncritical. They definitely couldn’t put their current content out if they still lived in China.
I think the crux of it is though that they were Youtubers, their critical views were for outsiders/foreigners, not for the average Chinese douyin/youkou user and as such were less relevant for 公安. Chinese people couldn’t watch those if they weren’t using a VPN.
In the same vein, if you were making death threats against the current administration you’ll likely get in trouble if you do it on Facebook or TruthSocial. But it would most likely fly completely under the radar if you did it in Mandarin and posted it on TikTok/Douyin. Censors can’t censor what flies over their head.
The logical conclusion is that absolute suppression is not as effective as the authorities would like us to believe.
maybe they were used to find like-minded people to arrest them instead
Very unlikely. They don’t have the prison cells to lock up half the population nor the manpower to identify them with how many people DOGE is firing. You’re more likely to just lose your job rather than get arrested.
Listen at some point its time to realize you dont give a fuck about their threats, accept death as a possibility, and keep to your principles.
Like that man who stood in front of the tank during Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.
Im pretty sure were headed into such an event locally.
Like that man who stood in front of the tank during Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.
The guy didn’t die immediately. If you watch the full video, he was taken away by plainclothe police. Probabaly got disappeared and tortured. 😖
Torture is the most scary part of it.
Not likely. There wouldn’t be enough working hours in the 4 years available.
they’ll just pour it all into AI. the people they wheelbarrow out of the gas chambers can’t dispute it any more.
