Summary
Canadians are boycotting U.S. travel in response to Trump’s tariffs and policies. A recent survey found 59% are less likely to visit the U.S. this year, with 36% canceling trips.
Airlines report declining demand, and tourism-dependent regions like Florida and New York’s Thousand Islands are adjusting marketing strategies.
Some Canadians refuse to even transit through the U.S. Businesses in Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda are benefiting from the shift.
Critics argue Trump’s policies are harming American tourism and local economies.
Was going to fly to Boston with my sister to see a Laker’s game this March, but that’s all off the table now. No tickets, no hotel, no flights; we’ll use the money for a different game, maybe in Toronto. I’m not stepping foot in the US if I can help it, in solidarity with many other Canadians. Just how it is right now.
I’m one of the 36%. With ICE, the US being more hostile in general, and questionable aviation safety, I’ve changed my destination from California to Australia.
I would have done that even if the US wasn’t turning to shit.
Gday, and hope you enjoy!
Our beaches are much better anyway :)Thank you! 😃 Any beaches you recommend?
Queensland: Gold coast and sunshine coast
NSW: manly (Sydney)
West: Perth
There are probably better ones but I’ll have to defer to locals.
I agree with the oyher comment to jusk the locals in whatever city or town you are in and there will be a really nice beach literally everywhere you go.
We are extremely lucky to have beautiful soft white sand beaches, and chances are you will have a large section to yourself as we have a small population which is clustered around capitol cities, the only exception being is that the nice beaches in capitol cities can be popular in summer. Dont even think about places like Bondi, seeing that on TV shows gives me anxiety. There are beaches near me in WA that have sand so fine that it literally queaks as you walk, it can be weirdly satisfying.
good call mate
Americans fuck around, Americans find out.
This world doesn’t need us. We’ve enjoyed decades of undeserved praise and good will from the world, and it’s inflated our ego enough that we think we’re invincible.
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It’s more been the willingness of other countries to follow our lead on most things for so long. (Soft power) That time is over, and it’s not a bad thing.
Great point. Probably a filtering done by our national media so that any interaction with global entities makes it sound like we’re being praised….
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wasn’t there a US news anchor recently saying that everyone on earth should strive to be part of the US?
What?? Really?? That’s horrible! Why are Americans wanting to move toward a colonist/Empire future? We were taught in schools (superficially, I guess?) that that kind of national behavior is BAD and caused a ton of violence and death. I am so baffled.
I vividly remember reading in English class both fiction and nonfiction stories about the atrocities done by the British empire in India and Africa. We all read Anne Frank. We learned in “socials studies” class about the tragedies committed against indigenous Americans. Where did all of this come from?
@breen @courageousstep Yes. It was Jesse Waters, a Fox anchor interviewing Doug Ford, telling Ford that he should be honoured to be annexed by the USA:
“Because if I were a citizen of another country and I was a neighbour of the United States, I would consider it a privilege to be taken over by the United States of America."
I think it’s oblique to what you said:
I think that it’s actually cultural-narcissism based, and I’m saying that as a person who discovered that class-narcissism is a cultural-narcissism, at the end of a 25-day hard-line-fast to crack an obstacle in my unconscious-mind…
Cultural-narcissism seems to be a root-rabies in … all? … I think so … of our cultures.
All the “it isn’t G-D that is The Only Savior, it is OUR RELIGION that is The Only Savior” narcissisms are examples of cultural-narcissism…
but the US of A made narcissism into its banner, to some extent…
& I think that that, itself, betrayed your culture, & certainly your people…
Remember what the TV-footage of people in the US was like, after Sept 11, 2001?
All the people wearing “superhero” outfits?
Their unconscious-minds asserting through the outfit they were wearing that reality wasn’t allowed to treat them as mere-humans?
Their symbol-outfit, or symbol-culture, was supposed to be sufficient?
They were supposed to be inherently immune?
I think it was one of the most-blatent expressions of unconscious-mind’s delusion-about-non-equality in recent history.
& I think that ALL national-narcissisms are doing the same thing, in different ways…
I think cultural-narcissism knifes-in-the-back the country it grows-in, inevitably.
“The world doesn’t need us” Hoomin, the world needs good people, no matter what country you’re in.
The world doesn’t need machiavellian nationalism, not ANYone’s, right?
But the world NEEDS good people, now, everywhere.
& we need to not break or give-up, until we win…
no matter how many decades this takes.
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My landlord and her family just got back from Mexico, and even though they had booked their tickets before Trump was elected, they choose direct flights just because Trump’s rumblings were so strong.
The tariffs are one thing, the 51st state threats are another, I would say more major thing.
And then you have the horror stories of the German tourist and that woman from BC applying for a visa renewal at the border. Neither have been convicted of committing a criminal or civil offence yet (the first one just flimsily accused), and instead of being just turned away or even given the option to buy an expensive return ticket on the spot, Customs and Border Patrol see it fit to just stuff them into prison-like accommodations with no firm timelines as to when they get out. Seems cruel and unusual to me, so I can understand why not many Canadians would like to take a chance with that, even if they don’t actually do any work, that an officer could get caught up over anything.
Add onto that the new 30 day registry rules means clearly the US doesn’t want us around for that long.
It’s all fucked up.
Oh geez, those registry rules. We used to make jokes about the Soviet Union: “papers please!” US Xenophobia will end up removing all their freedoms. It’ll be about “catching illegal aliens” but the effect will be total internal travel restrictions and tracking for US citizens. I really hope they wake up before it’s too late.
Flying has required a Real ID-based identification for a little while now. Terry stops have enabled cops to stop and identify as long as a cop has “reasonable suspicion”.
There’s nothing to wake up before anymore. It’s been like this for a while… Long before Orange Man took office with terry stops starting in the 60’s, and real id being signed by congress in 2005 (though rollout has been slow).
The “registry rules” is just another thing that people skipping out on their visa’s will also violate… So I’m not sure what the point of that would be necessarily. But I don’t see why anyone would be up and arms about an attempt to track those who are overstaying the country they’re in. It seems reasonable to require a check-in for extended visas. The “best” thing it could do is identify those who intend to skip out a few months earlier which I guess could have some value… at the annoyance of creating check-ins for others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aI8fOsX3T4 Wish it was real and not just a video.
I really hope they wake up before it’s too late.
Narrator: They didn’t.
In fact, Republicans are making a concerted effort not to wake.
canada will never be a state of the US, neither will denmark or panama. its all just maga bots yapping their cod online. trump is just a wannabe putin.
Trump needs to smash/possess both Canada & Greenland for the simple reason that to crush/destroy the EU, in a pincer, with Putin, the staging-ground is required.
Canadians would be either slaughtered, enslaved, or whatever.
The US is going to declare war on Canada in 2-2.5y.
The world has changed.
Relying on assumed-entitlement & making-believing, as the US’s Democrats did, is suicide.
I hope that Zelenskiy isn’t as foolishly-trusting/naive as “it’s all just maga bots yapping” is, xor Ukranians are going to lose much more, permanently.
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I have an upcoming trip with a US transfer. We booked it before Trump won and started these shenanigans. We worry that the declining traffic will cancel our direct flight and we’ll be left scrambling to find an alternative route. We also worry about US Customs now more than we used to. It would cost us ~$1300 for the two of us to reroute, and we’re seriously thinking about it just to reduce our risk.
In unrelated news, most of the lettuce in the store in grown in the USA. We went shopping yesterday and all the Canadian produce was sold out while the US stuff was sort of rotting. Well, we found romaine hearts grown in Mexico, so we bought that. Thanks Mexico-bros.
Thanks Mexico-bros
Mexibro?
I question if it’s even safe for outsiders to go to the Untied States
Highly depends on where. Many states aren’t safe for Americans to set foot in, much less foreigners.
It’s not even safe for Americans to go to the United States at this point.
As a rule of thumb I don’t travel to countries run by dictatorships and have no fair judicial systems .
How are people getting to Mexico from Canada without going through the US? You’d have to take one heck of a convoluted flight path to avoid US airspace. Can you actually fly over the US direct to Mexico from Canada without going through US customs?
Absolutely you can. I can get a direct flight from Vancouver Island to Mexico, but usually transfer in Van. I’ve seen direct flights from Calgary as well.
That’s good, though I still feel uncomfortable about it!
Am I paranoid for worrying that the US might order flights from Canada to Mexico to be diverted to a US airport so that ICE can look for “illegals and DEI folk”?
It might happen once, at which point there’ll be a colossal uproar. Even compared to the various other uproars we’ve been hearing. I’m sure you’ll notice if it happens.
I think the point is they don’t want to be “noticing” it from inside a grounded plane.
Belarus did this a few years ago with a flight from somewhere else to Lithuania that was carrying a Belarusian dissident. The few minutes it spent in Belarusian airspace was enough for the air force to intercept it, force it to land and arrest the dissident.
IIRC, there was a huge outrage, which didn’t help the dissident (rogue states gonna go rogue and all that), but since then, no EU/western flights have overflown Belarus.
It is paranoid, but honestly, I’ve thought the same. I don’t think I’ll be going anywhere for awhile in any case, except maybe Greenland! Always wanted to go there.
They mean no stopovers in US.
It’s not about flight path, it’s no stops or layovers in the US.
It’s not about the flight path until your plane needs to make an emergency landing. Then you’re fucked anyway.
There’s probably protocols for that. If it’s someone having a medical issue then no disembarking for other people, refuel and leave.
You can definitely fly direct without going through customs.
You only go through customs if you land in the country. The US even has the extra annoying step of going through customs on a stopover even if you don’t leave the airport.
Oh, right, it’s because of the tariffs and not because the US immigration is arresting and torturing people at random at the borders…
Everything is because of the tariffs. Tariffs are all that is happening on the US right now, you don’t have to look it up.
Yep. They’re definitely not disappearing German and Canadian citizens for basically no reason. They’re certainly not putting them in solitary confinement for days on end before shuffling them around the county for months with no way for friends or family to (accurately) track down where they are
I wish I could cancel. I bought tickets a long time ago and they want $100 to change or cancel per ticket. It’ll cost me upwards of $600 to cancel the trip
Put it this way, would you pay $600 to avoid being detained in an ICE facility for several weeks?
If so, change the trip.
No
Fair enough, but own your choices.
No one is forcing you to travel to the US.
Didn’t say they were. But I would prefer to cancel the flight without having to pay $150 for every single ticket. I also don’t support the idea I’m going to be detained and sent to a prison camp. I’m all for discussion the shit show without hyperbole
Obviously it would be hyperbole to say you ARE going to be detained by ICE and out in solitary confinement. I’m not saying that. I’m just pointing out that factually, there is a non zero chance of it.
Assessing what you would pay to avoid a worst case scenario can be a helpful aid when making financial decisions.
Are cancellation fees not simply taken out of your ticket refund? Because that seems a bit peculiar of the airline.
And I’m avoiding visiting Canada because I know I won’t want to come back.
Any Canadians feel like adopting a middle-aged American manchild?
Yeah, my parents mentioned maybe visiting the UK next year and asked if I’d want to go, and it’s like…I don’t think I could bear having to come back here.
Hey, no cutting in line. I was here first.
So anyway, I prefer a family within an hour or two of a ski area. It’s not a deal breaker, though. References available upon request.
Serious answer to an unserious question: adopting an adult is legally possible in about half the jurisdictions in Canada, and then most of those jurisdictions require the adoptee to be a citizen or permanent resident. https://adoptingback.com/adopting-back/canada-adult-adoption-law/
Fuck I haven’t been to the US (not even for a stopover) since Trunp 1.0. I can’t imagine when or why I would ever go back.
Canadians are really showing Trump they mean business! Hope we Europeans will do the same! Kudos to Canada!
I wouldn’t either. When I travel abroad, I always make sure my layovers aren’t on 3rd world soil.
This is it. If you’re on American soil, even during a layover, you’re bound to American rules of law. There was already a Canadian citizen who was detained in a ICE facility.
i believe you…but do you have the article to back up that claim? i would like to save it for later dates
