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Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump’s promise to crack down on “criminal illegal immigrants,” but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

    • @Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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      141 month ago

      Imagine being an immigrate and marrying a Trump supporter. Should we feel sorry for her? Because I feel no sympathy for him.

        • @rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          330 days ago

          Which is a dumb belief.

          “Love conquers all” lol no, you don’t live in a fucking Disney movie.

          Certain political beliefs can and will do harm. Feelings will not protect you from harm. Choose your partner wisely.

      • @hakunawazo@lemmy.world
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        Imagine being an immigrate and marrying a Trump supporter.

        Imagine being an immigrant and marrying a Trump. FIFY

        Not even blue steel could help you then.

  • @Polderviking@feddit.nl
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    Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency.

    I have to assume this guy was aware of this. So if you vote to have “illegals” deported, how is this not exactly what you voted for?

    They really don’t like having to think about things do they?

    I wonder if he told at all her he votes for people that want her gone.

    • @invertedspear@lemm.ee
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      81 month ago

      I don’t think it ever did. It does qualify you for legal residency status, resident alien or “green card” as most people refer to it. I’m pretty sure that status can be voided if you did anything illegal along the way. For citizen status you still have to go through the process.

    • BigFig
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      31 month ago

      I am going through this process right now.

      Once we are married (very soon) she will apply for a change of status to CR1 Visa (Temporary Residency for a spouse of an American citizen)

      From that point you have 2 years to finalize application for a Green Card (permanent residency)

      Once she has her Green Card, so long as she isn’t a criminal breaking any laws (non immigration related, felony shit) then she is a legal, permanent, resident.

      You then have to maintain that Green Card status for a minimum of 3 YEARS to then apply for full or dual citizenship. (Though you apply 90 days before that 3 year mark arrives)

  • Endymion_Mallorn
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    11 month ago

    Okay, so now his political views are getting changed just because of fair enforcement of our laws? It’s not legal for her to be in the country. She’s imprisoned and awaiting deportation, and the law will likely be interpreted to prohibit her from attempting re-entry for a number of years.

    I’m not seeing any issues here.

    • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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      I don’t see why you are downvoted, he got exactly what he asked for.
      I suppose it’s that you call it “fair enforcement of law”, which it is. The law is super strict and maybe not fair, but that’s what he wanted, and the law was upheld as is. She was not targeted unjustly or unfairly under the law. Thus it is literally fair enforcement of the law. It’s the law that sucks.

    • BigFig
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      21 month ago

      Girls gonna have to restart the process from scratch if she ever hopes to enter and obtain residency or citizenship.

      This could be between 3 and 10 YEARS depending on the severity of the overstay…

      • Endymion_Mallorn
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        11 month ago

        That’s their fault then. We have clearly-written laws; and in places where they’re not clearly written, you can call your local ICE office or your immigration lawyer (because anyone who’s living abroad or trying to become a citizen should have an immigration lawyer on retainer), explain the situation before you’re in an illegal condition, and see what they can do. I know that visa extensions exist.

  • Nougat
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    Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa … Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies,

    “Supportive of stricter immigration policies,” doesn’t turn in his wife for violating existing immigration policies.

    • The Quuuuuill
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      151 month ago

      the way the media talks about immigration and trumps policies are very specific and very corrosive. most of us here having this conversation understand what’s really at stake because we think about and analyze these things, but american media intentionally lets people who don’t know think they know what they don’t.

      let me explain.

      when donald trump talks about criminal aliens in our country, he means anyone born on foreign soil, born to foreign parents, or with citizenship somewhere else who has committed a crime. a crime to him is any breach of law. and he uses the terms “illegals” and “aliens” to distance people from their own humanity. but the media will cover it as he’s only interested in criminals. you know, like drug kingpins, traffickers, gun runners. our mass media misleads the populace. the reason they do this is doing so does numbers for them. when you have a for profit media apparatus, you will make more money if there is always an emergency. this way they can trick people like this guy into making their own emergency, and then they can package his tragedy and sell it to us.

      everything is going according to plan

      • @tburkhol@lemmy.world
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        You can’t promise to round up and deport 10 million “criminal, illegal immigrants” without implying that all of the ~10 million undocumented residents are criminal. Unless you’ve been listening to Ann Coulter and believe there are 50 million undocumented - 1 in every 6 people in the country.

        • BigFig
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          21 month ago

          You have to remember that to THESE people, being undocumented in any way shape or firm IS illegal. Whether or not that makes you a criminal is entirely different and they definitely say yes.

        • @Seleni@lemmy.world
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          These are the same morons that think Bezos isn’t rich enough to give all his workers raises; that ‘he would lose all his money!’

          Math is not their strong suit.

        • The Quuuuuill
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          51 month ago

          i know that. you know that. but not enough people do. they don’t understand scale or large numbers. they think if we increase minimum wage by $7, the price of a big mac will go up $7.

          our education system is designed to make people susceptible to exploitation.

          everything is going according to plan

    • @MiniMoose4Free@lemm.ee
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      301 month ago

      An american woman wouldn’t put up with his shit. My brother is unfortunately a trumper, and he got a foreign wife because she is the only woman that will put up with his shit that a normal woman would have walked out of years ago.

      She slaves over him like a tradwife, raises his kids that isn’t hers from the previous woman that walked away from his shit. But he’s got joint custody.

        • @Broadfern@lemmy.world
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          101 month ago

          Yeah this isn’t great. While we can’t say for sure, “woman in a safer position” may well describe this situation as it’s an unfortunate pattern.

        • BigFig
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          61 month ago

          I read it more as that’s what the brother likely thinks of his wife.

          I’ve literally met old ass men with Vietnamese or Chinese wives half their age who INTRODUCE them as ‘My insert nationality here wife’

        • @segabased@lemmy.zip
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          Poor choice of words but I’ve seen it myself. Old divorced racist conservatives literally traveling to Thailand for wives. Their goal is to find subservient women that they can’t get at home. Nothing against the foreigners it’s more and indictment on the American

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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    -11 month ago

    Dumb motherfucker forgot that “criminal illegal immigrant” is redundant. If they’re illegal, they’re criminals, even if it’s overstaying their visa. Including his wife.

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      I don’t think this is correct, because I’m pretty sure that overstaying your visa is a civil violation, not a criminal offense. All criminal acts are illegal, but not all illegal acts are criminal.

      • @pogt@lemmy.wtf
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        Correct. It’s a civil violation, and increases the risk of deportation. Normally foreigners overstaying a visit don’t immediately get deported.

        The overstay consequence is that it leads to a 3-year re-entry into the US ban if the overstay is under 1 year or 10-year re-entry ban if it’s over 1 year.

        Either way, this really sucks for the couple. They most likely won’t be able to have a life in the US anytime in the coming years.

      • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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        130 days ago

        I doubt someone who voted for Trump understands the difference between a criminal and civil violation. Hell, our own government treats ICE like a criminal law enforcement agency with guns and bullet proof vests, not clipboards and name tags.

  • @Ronno@feddit.nl
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    341 month ago

    This reads like the post Brexit articles. What do people expect to happen when they vote for something?

      • @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        31 month ago

        “I’m a good person and this was only supposed to happen to bad people” - every Far-Right muppet when it turns out that the in-group is a lot smaller than they thought and they ain’t in it.

    • @segabased@lemmy.zip
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      People got too used to being able to cosplay as oppressed victims of the state despite decades of minor policy changes between Democrat or Republican administrations.

      All Americans got to enjoy conjuring any abstract worldview they wanted with the freedom of knowing they can say what they want whenever they want, never feel repression and just go home and watch tv. Maga got to pretend they were actively oppressed by the state which let’s them justify supporting real state oppression towards people they don’t like.

      I imagine a lot of maga dorks voted for this, expected performative moves but a mostly stable continuity of the American center. I don’t know if they’ll ever admit it but I bet they are going to regret this president keeping his promises when they are stripped of all of their rights and their safety nets. The time for hyperbolics and hysterics are over, fascism is here, they are going to get ground down with the rest.

    • @xye@lemm.ee
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      51 month ago

      IMO, people think this way because they’re trying to do the right thing, but the nebulous others are not. Deporting those others would make it faster and more acceptable for themselves to be approved. Clearing the queue and getting a glow up, for a ridiculous analogy. Fear leads to irrational choices. Telling people they’ll be 1000% more patriotic if you vote for them is an evil but successful tactic pandering to this fear.

    • @smeenz@lemmy.nz
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      They’re voting for people who regularly avoid the consequences of their actions. They think that they’ll receive the same special treatment.