Summary
Elon Musk suggested cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid in a Fox News interview, citing debunked claims about fraud and linking benefits to illegal immigration.
He falsely claimed millions of deceased individuals remain in the Social Security system, a statement previously refuted by officials.
While Trump has promised not to cut entitlement programs, Musk’s remarks indicate they are under threat, potentially impacting millions of Americans.
His rhetoric echoes far-right conspiracy theories, raising concerns about his influence on policy discussions regarding social safety nets.
Where do I get a refund on my social security payments I’ve put in my entire adult life?
(not so) fun fact: The average black male American never sees a penny from social security because the program is biased toward those who live long enough to reap the benefits of the program. So, despite paying in an entire working life, dying too young rewards you with a big fat nothing.
Also fun fact: I’ve been pulling made up statistics (also without any corroborating numbers) out of my butt since the last ice age!
What the fuck have you been smoking? Do you seriously believe that the average black male American will die before retirement age?
The average life expectancy of a black male in the US is 72 years. Are you saying they’re just choosing not to pull SS? Something doesn’t seem right with your stat.
I know you’re joking but for those that don’t understand:
When you pay in your Social Security each paycheck. That money is immediately handed out to another person. When you go to collect Social Security in reality, you’re justliving on somebody else’s money. You never see your money again. It really is just social welfare.
Seriously…. Why the fuck is this clown allowed to cut ANYTHING?
The moment he cuts a single service someone depends on, he should be sued into submission. How is this happening?
Because the President and the Republican majority in the House and Senate are onboard with it, and that’s the authority driving it (mostly the President, but the reason that Congress isn’t objecting to or trying to block stuff is because they’re okay with it). Musk may be the face of the cuts — he doesn’t have to worry about re-election, unlike politicians — he has no authority of his own. His organization is just saying “this is what we should cut”, and the cuts happen under the President’s authority. Musk isn’t independently going out and cutting things.
Musk isn’t independently going out and cutting things.
It’s weird seeing this complete and utter bullshit being unironically spewed still. It wasn’t Trump that cut the air traffic controllers, or nuclear watchdogs, or infections disease investigators. It was Musk, and spreading this propaganda just helps protect Trump from allowing it.
If this does not really kick Americans into some gear, then absolutely nothing will.
Hi, the election just happened five months ago and there’s none for four years.
Apparently the context of my comment flew over your head and you tried sounding witty but ultimately looked dumb in the end. Congrats, now go away.
removed by mod
Midterm elections are in two years. Those matter too.
Elon Musk suggested cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid in a Fox News interview
February 11, 4 weeks ago:
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-collapse-james-carville-2035164
Trump Administration Will ‘Collapse’ in 30 Days, Says James Carville
Carville advised Democrats to “play opossum” for now.
“This whole thing is collapsing. It doesn’t need Elizabeth Warren in somebody screaming to pacify some progressive advocacy groups in Washington,” the former top adviser to President Bill Clinton said. “Hold your fire. It’s going to be easy pickings here in six weeks, just lay back.”
I would have said that Carville was wrong, but if they do start taking big whacks at entitlement programs, this might actually manage it.
Let’s pretend he actually does do something to Social Security. There’s enough people around him all day that will entirely outraged by this to be safe at any time. Go ahead and try, motherfucker.
linking […] to immigration
Ah, so:
- Gotta cut SS because of immigrants
- Uh oh people really want SS
- Look I saved SS by deporting immigrants
White House says Trump won’t cut Social Security, Medicare after Musk remarks
The White House on Tuesday asserted President Trump would not cut Social Security or Medicare after tech billionaire Elon Musk’s comments about the need to examine entitlement spending gained traction.
Musk, a top Trump adviser leading the effort to overhaul the federal workforce through the Department of Government Efficiency, appeared on Fox Business Network on Monday for a rare television interview, where he noted that most government spending is on entitlements.
“So, the waste and fraud in entitlement spending, which is all of the — which is most of the federal spending is entitlements. So, that’s, like, the big one to eliminate,” Musk told former Trump official Larry Kudlow, suggesting it could amount to more than $500 billion in annual savings.
Sounds like some legislators got upset calls.
If he wants a wave of suicide bombers on mobility scooters, he’s on the right track.
“Biden should have warned us harder! Harris tricked us! Fuckin leftists(lol) used reverse psychology! Imma MAGA even harder just to get revenge!”
removed by mod
Yup, they’ll cheer him on as they go into bankruptcy, end up living on the streets, and begging for enough change to get a meal.
Then no social security tax? Oh I still have to pay that. Great.
While Trump has promised not to cut entitlement programs
And we all know how much Trump’s word is worth.
We also all know how much in charge of the White House he is too.
deleted by creator
ask for your taxes back.
Sorry Elon fired all the help desk.
Fwiw the website is still up and it still says I’ll get my tree fiddy
Social Security’s “trust fund” is an empty pit of debt obligations. Benefits to current recipients are paid with incoming payroll taxes. Any difference is made up with additional taxes or monetary inflation, by way of Treasury bonds. They “reinvest it in the economy” if there’s ever a surplus, e.g., through military contractors. It finances the national debt.
Putting aside the quirks of that setup, the basic function is that the taxes you pay in now are not an investment in your own future, you’re basically just paying for the retirement of older people now. The expectation is that someone down the road will then pay taxes to finance your retirement. Hence, how SS was able to start paying benefits almost immediately (3 years) after payroll taxes started being collected.
deleted by creator
Well, their interpretation is at odds with reality, and they should reconcile that. Regardless of what they told or what they believed, they paid into a system where they were forced to subsidize current recipients, while the system itself could be revoked at any point, leaving them high and dry, and not running into 14th Amendment issues or anything like that. See Flemming v. Nestor, 1960 - quoting Wiki:
Flemming v. Nestor, 363 U.S. 603 (1960), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court upheld the constitutionality of Section 1104 of the 1935 Social Security Act. In this Section, Congress reserved to itself the power to amend and revise the schedule of benefits. The Court rejected that Social Security is a system of ‘accrued property rights’ and held that those who pay into the system have no contractual right to receive what they have paid into it.[1]
Note that I’m not saying anything “should” be one way or another, besides that people should be fully aware how the current system works in law.
Money back plus interest. Decades and decades of interest.
Don’t ask, take!
So storm the federal reserve like area 51?
Just tack on a huge refund the next time you file your income taxes. With the cuts to the IRS they’ll likely never contest it…
We should use the chopping block on him, and repurpose his wealth to fund government programs. Especially for repaying federal employees for this shitshow.
A kawaii guillotine. I have truly seen it all now.
I’m gonna be honest, I kinda want my tattoo artist to make me a kawaii guillotine tattoo now
You should see my Hello Kitty bandsaw.
Is there a 6 foot sliding bench attached to it? Because I have to admit, Automatic Guillotine sounds pretty badass.
I suppose it is big enough for that…
I’ve had this saved as a reaction image for a while now
deleted by creator
He should be on the chopping block