• @CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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    153 months ago

    I feel like the enemy started this so they then say “see nobody cares, nobody showed up” because we saw through their bullshit.

    The lack of organizer info after a whole bunch of people have tried to find it is a huge red flag to me.

    • @CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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      23 months ago

      I was wrong. At least for my state. There was a huge protest in Denver yesterday.

      We may have just hit the point where enough people are pissed off that a lot of organizing/motivating isn’t needed.

      I’ll be at the next one, and I’m already planning how to comply and assist with a general strike in March. I have the teeniest hope that some momentum might be starting to resist these fuckers now in charge.

  • @ickplant@lemmy.world
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    This was Colorado. I agree that the timing sucks for people with regular jobs, but we also need to get the attention of our representatives and disrupt the peace.

  • @11111one11111@lemmy.world
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    Its crazy to think if I weren’t a US citizen and was reading this, I’d think “man that’s 50 individual locations for everyone to be able to participate if they want.”

    When the reality is, if I wanted to attend my New York Stare protest in Albany, id be looking at a 5-6ish one way trip, 10-12hrs round trip just driving. I’m totally guessing tho. Ive never gone from my house to Albany before. Only ever went there from either the adks or NYC coming back to Buffalo with other stops on the way home. I’ve always used 7 1/2hrs as the time it takes to get to NYC so that’s where I’m getting 5-6hrs Buffalo to Albany.

    Tldr: Yo, America’s big as fuck.

    • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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      Nah, 50 locations is rookie numbers. Like, Germany has 715 cities over 20k pop and I just checked and yep the smallest one did have a protest in 2024 when the AfD “remigration” plans became public.

      Protest where you live. Protest where people are. Wait that doesn’t work in the US. Protest on the Walmart parking lot. Fuck trying to hit individual record numbers on prime time news noone cares noone watches that shit if it even gets reported, be visible to your neighbours they can’t censor that. Think globally, act locally. Have grandmas and cookies.

      • @11111one11111@lemmy.world
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        Lol homie, where are you getting 715 cities in Germany from? According to Wikipedia, Germany has 11 cities.

        1. Berlin/Brandenburg Metropolitan Region

        2. Central German Metropolitan Region

        3. Frankfurt/Rhine-Main Metropolitan Region

        4. Hamburg Metropolitan Region

        5. Hannover-Braunschweig-Göttingen-Wolfsburg Metropolitan Region

        6. Munich Metropolitan Region

        7. Northwest Metropolitan Region

        8. Nuremberg Metropolitan Region

        9. Rhine-Neckar Metropolitan Region

        10. Rhine-Ruhr Metropolitan Region (also covers the Cologne Bonn Region)

        11. Stuttgart Metropolitan Region

        Is this a translation thing where you are calling every municipality a “city?” If that’s the case then the comparison would be 715 towns/villages/cities for Germany vs approximately 30,000 towns/villages/cities in the USA.

        The organized protests are only happening in each state’s capital. Which is one city per state that someone a long time ago in a galaxy far far away decided would be called that State’s Capital City.

        • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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          The German directly translates to “Large and medium cities”. Small ones are smaller, and yes in English at some point you’d use “town”, German doesn’t make that distinction. I think “over 20k people” makes it very clear what I was talking about, though. They’re all individual municipalities, and if you look at large ones, e.g. Berlin: They have multiple protests about the same topic all the time. “Stadt”, “city”, doesn’t even have legal meaning in German it originally refers to special privileges (trading etc) that some places had over others, and those places tended to grow bigger.

          What you’re listing is Metropolitan areas and no, that’s not anywhere close to a city. I understand that it’s often used that way in English, and there’s some parallels in Germany e.g. the Bay Area can be in some way considered one city, and so can the Ruhr Area, but when you look at Berlin-Brandenburg it’s literally the two states: Berlin and Brandenburg. That’s like… imagine Chicago being its own, independent, state, and then considering it and the whole of Illinois to be “the same city”, the smallest municipality (that’s the actual legal term) with the title “Stadt” is Arnis. 300 people, down from a maximum of 1000. Quirk of history.

          20k pop is large enough to be a medium centre, meaning that the municipality provides things such as hospitals, specialised doctors, secondary education etc. to the municipalities around it because it’s the big kid on the block. About 7k pop would be a subordinate centre where you can get stuff like groceries and a hair cut, there’s a primary school, a pharmacy, such things. Even smaller places may have some of those things but do it for themselves, they aren’t set up to serve the surrounding area a complete package.

          The organized protests are only happening in each state’s capital.

          And that’s stupid. People won’t come because it’s not something just about anyone can work into their schedule, and you won’t be seen because only people living in the capital will randomly drop by. Differently put: Protests should be in commute distance, ideally on that very commute. Hence why I mentioned Walmart.

          If we did that in Germany there’d be 16 protests, and population-wise btw the average German state is just about as large as the average US state: You have a few gigantic ones like California, and also some that are smaller than our smallest state, but mostly you simply have more states. And a lot more area.

          Going by “A protest in every 20k pop place” Minnesota alone would have about 60, then add the county seats over 7k to that.

          As said: Rookie numbers. That was my point. You’re not doing a protest wave, you’re doing rookie numbers.

    • @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
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      America’s not a country. It is a continent.

      America’s government is not a government. It is the largest, most varied, most complex single human organization that has ever existed. Also the most powerful. But very little of it is organized. And almost all of it, to almost everyone, is invisible.

      America’s culture is not a culture. It has cultures within in, and some are quite good. Once you’ve met with the beating heart, it’s hard to forget. But like the onion it has no center. Once you reach the center of the dream, you realize it is nothing but marketing, it never existed.

      America is sleeping fitfully. America died long ago. America has yet to be born. America was always a lie.

    • I just plugged in my state capital into my driving app. It says it will take 6 hours and 51 minutes one-way. Yeah, I can’t even afford the gas for that. So I checked public transportation and it said 12 hours one-way and one of the three tickets I’d have to buy was $100. Your tldr is spot on.

      • @11111one11111@lemmy.world
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        Thanks for the only rational reply lol. All the love to the other two replies but one of those starts out, “America isn’t a country it’s a continent.” ??? While the other comment is telling me the 715 municipalities in Germany dwarf the 50 locations in the US. Lol. Cheers for following the conversation rationally 🍻

  • @JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world
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    23 months ago

    I wish I’d known about this like 2 weeks ago instead of 30 minutes before I go into work. I’d call out if it didn’t mean financial ruin for my family

  • FundMECFS
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    243 months ago

    GET OUT THERE, STOP MAKING EXCUSES.

    (For your protection read the EFF websites protest guide to keep yourself safe).

  • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I was going to go but after spending almost an entire evening trying to find organizing information, I gave up and decided to sit this out.

    There was no information on who was organizing this, who is backing it, and most importantly, who to contact. From an OPSEC standpoint, without a clear contact on who was organizing, it read like a false flag.

    • website had no information outside of the event
    • all POCs were “to be announced”
    • website for my area was on carrd with only the image of the flyer
    • all social media accounts are on techbro websites with no presence on mastodon or lemmy. Their bluesky account never directly answered the question of who was behind the account

    I hope to God I’m wrong and hope that organizers are well intentioned but given our current political climate, I need to know who is putting this out there. I’m not the only one worried. Many others on Bluesky, reddit, Facebook, etc all raised concerns. One reply I read was “contact us on discord”.

    Fuck. That.

    There wasn’t even a link to their discord!!!

    Edit: compare this to the protest happening in front of the Treasury

    • clear organizer (Elizabeth Warren iirc – I stumbled across this yesterday and can’t seem to find the source) and promoted by other prominent Democrats
    • shared publicly along Democrat official channels and accounts
    • press notified and documented the event
    • @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
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      Which upcoming protests would your friends recommend going to instead? Assuming that someone can’t travel to DC.

      I hope to God I’m wrong and hope that organizers are well intentioned but given our current political climate, I need to know who is putting this out there

      What might happen to someone who attended a not “well intentioned” protest, that wouldn’t happen to someone who attended a normal one?

      • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        73 months ago

        Which upcoming protests would your friends recommend going to instead? Assuming that someone can’t travel to DC.

        One that:

        • organized by people you know or by organizations you trust
        • organized by people who have “skin in the game” (i… people of color, LGBTQ+)
        • organized by someone with a name that is searchable
        • promoted by organizations within the opposition (e.g. Democrats, DNC, etc.)

        As many of the above that can apply.

        What might happen to someone who attended a not “well intentioned” protest, that wouldn’t happen to someone who attended a normal one?

        If you end up going to a protest because “I want to do something” without doing any due diligence, you are placing your faith and trust to someone you do not know. If you arrive there, they may pretend to be a part of a leftist organization. You may end up trusting them more than you should, giving them more information than you should. If they are running the protest as a false flag and in bad faith, then you’ve given your private information to someone who intends you harm.

        Best case scenario, the organizers don’t know what they are doing and are running the protest in good faith, but it also means they are new to this and don’t have good operational security.

        • @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
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          Which upcoming protests would your friends recommend going to instead? Assuming that someone can’t travel to DC.

          One that:

          • organized by people you know or by organizations you trust
          • organized by people who have “skin in the game” (i… people of color, LGBTQ+)
          • organized by someone with a name that is searchable
          • promoted by organizations within the opposition (e.g. Democrats, DNC, etc.)

          As many of the above that can apply.

          Such as? I’ve actually been looking for information on protests that are coming up, so that I can publicize them here, and have more than one day’s notice. What are some that are upcoming that I could spread the word about, that are good and trusted ones?

          If you end up going to a protest because “I want to do something” without doing any due diligence, you are placing your faith and trust to someone you do not know. If you arrive there, they may pretend to be a part of a leftist organization. You may end up trusting them more than you should, giving them more information than you should. If they are running the protest as a false flag and in bad faith, then you’ve given your private information to someone who intends you harm.

          Is it common for you that when you show up to a protest, people to start asking for your name and information about you? I have been to some protests and I have literally never had this happen or heard of this happening. Has it ever happened to you? Are you suggesting that the feds or somebody who doesn’t like protests, is creating new protests, so that they can then collect the information of anybody that shows up, and that they are not collecting the same information (or somehow unable to collect the same information) at real protests that happen, that they don’t like and want to punish people for taking part in?

  • @Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    203 months ago

    This event would have faired a lot better if it had any sort of actual organization and a core team of organizers to answer questions and provide solid information. All of my friends who would have been interested in an event like this decided to avoid it because there just wasn’t enough information for it to not seem “sketchy,” and something so poorly organized was likely to only draw small groups of supporters, thus reducing the “safety in numbers” that protesters would greatly benefit from against a crowd of fascist police and anti-protesters.

    • @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
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      All of my friends who would have been interested in an event like this decided to avoid it because there just wasn’t enough information for it to not seem “sketchy,”

      Which upcoming protests would your friends recommend going to instead?

      What might happen to someone who attended a “sketchy” protest, that wouldn’t happen to someone who attended a normal one?

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    Most people don’t live in their state capitol, and have no hope of attending something there that they learned of at the last minute. They should have been informed of this days ago.

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        But at best if you saw the very first mention of the ideation of going for this, you still would have had barely over a week of notice. This is not enough time for people to plan someone like this, especially during a school and work day.