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There is no more consensus about anything between MAGA people than there is among the left. People are individuals and they have different values. Voting for a party/candidate doesn’t mean they agree on everything. There’s likely greater differences in views and values within the groups than between them.
the left
Quick reminder: America has no left. The Dems are centre-right vs GoP far-right (and counting).
This is very true.
Here in Missouri, for instance, voters went red but also passed a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, and voted down an abortion ban. It’s ironic, considering Democrats always insist that if they just get more
conservativecentrist they’ll win elections.
Some migrants got harassed, they can pretend they set our allies “straight”, dei got "dismantled, funding cut to orgs they don’t like, pardons for j6 fed collaborators, security removed from political enemies…
As what Trump actually did for them as voting block, they are selfless, they need nothing as long as libs destroyed by daddy for the loolz
Remember that they accurately believed the DNC were horrible. They stopped Hillary. They stopped Biden and Harris. Good for them? Kinda, not really though.
… We know Trump is worse. Far worse. But they saw a legitimate threat, a group of people who were not going to make their lives better, and they took some kind of action to stop them.
And then lots of bigotry. Can’t forget that.
They want you to suffer. Their lives are miserable, and their media has taught them that it’s YOUR fault. So now they want you to suffer.
Hint: the reason it’s this way is that the elite control the media. If you’re fighting with your financial equals on the other side, then both sides aren’t getting together to fight the rich.
Hint: the reason it’s this way is that the elite control the media. If you’re fighting with your financial equals on the other side, then both sides aren’t getting together to fight the rich.
The focus of this cartoon is, I believe, an Austrailian(?) politician. I think it works though as “generic oligarch” or “Republicans.”
Don’t forget folks:
I believe the Australian is Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox news and The Daily Mail
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I think this question’s a tad premature, as it’s only been two weeks, but in the short-term I imagine the major beneficiaries are the border cities along the southern and northern borders. I think there’s also an argument to be made that it’s objectively a good thing that Trump is making other countries commit to their own security in a bigger way, rather than depending on US resources. It was also pretty cool to see some actual positive news out of Palestine in recent weeks.
Other than that, it’s the same culty shit we see no matter who’s elected. Dems pretend their guy is a good president. Republicans pretend their guy is a good president, even when they’re doing objectively atrocious things or demonstrate that they’re not functioning well cognitively anymore.
Do you think the dictator stuff isn’t alarming? Are you not made nervous by the attempt to determine the loyalty of LEO and the military to Trump rather than the USA?
No. The judiciary’s acting to counter it, as it is designed to do.
Also, fascism is and has been a fact of life in America for decades. The Patriot Act is two decades old. Open torture in America is two decades old. Ferguson was ten years ago, and nothing changed. (except militarization of police got worse and now we have cop cities) Despite vast opposition to the genocide in Gaza, Biden made sure Israel got their WMD’s. Most people in America are working 2-3 jobs at upwards of 100 hours a week for the privilege of barely surviving in a roach-infested studio. School shootings are not only a more regular phenomenon, but now people want it to be legal for people to 3-D print their guns and have them be completely untraceable. Abortion is criminalized in Idaho and soon it will be in the majority of the US states due to Biden’s failure to act.
It’s hard for me to pretend that things have suddenly gotten worse when they’ve already been bad for decades and it’s just that half of the population is always willing to ignore it because their guy is in charge.
Might be out of the loop on this, but what is a “cop city”?
I think the best way to describe it is a dedicated militarization complex for cops. Here is the wikipedia on the one in Atlanta.
Thanks. This is scary lol
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It was also pretty cool to see some actual positive news out of Palestine in recent weeks.
The fact that you think that has anything to do with Trump shows how disingenuous or ignorant you are being. The ceasefire was reached while Biden was president, and the only thing Trump has done is reauthorize even bigger bombs for Israel.
The ceasefire was reached while Biden was president
No reasonable person thinks Biden was the reason the ceasefire was reached, as the genocide continued until the literal final day of his presidency, with his full support. There’s a very good reason why he had the nickname Genocide Joe, and that reason is that he did everything to earn it.
I do like seeing that Democrats are pretending they oppose genocide now, though, even if they’re only doing so out of political convenience.
Do you think Palestinians are relieved that Trump is POTUS now?
I couldn’t speak for them. I only know what I’ve read, like everyone else.
I’m not asking you to speak for them.
Do you think they would feel relieved that Trump is POTUS?
Clearly you are. I don’t think that’s appropriate.
You’re very willing to surmise what their views on Biden would be, but not Trump?
Trump supports most genocides. You can’t be as much of a Hitler stan as that guy is without backing a lot of racist genocides. For fucks sake his favorite President was Jackson.
I don’t think that’s actually true, if you look at his record.
Trump withdrew the US military from Syria and negotiated the end of the war in Afghanistan. I have no illusions about the fact that Trump likely personally profited in some way from those deals, but Democrats love their warmongering and opposed these. Obama was bombing seven countries at once (that we know of) when he left office. Biden enthusiastically helped Israel stack bodies until his literal final day in office.
There’s just no comparison.
Syria wasn’t a genocide and neither was Afghanistan.
Andrew Jackson was genocidal though. Trump called him his favorite POTUS.
Trump likes his racist genocides he’s a fascist so that’s not a surprise
Thank you for sharing your perspective.
Imagine thinking Trump will do literally anything but bulldoze the Palestinians for hotel properties.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It’s nice to see Democratic voters finally pretending to care about genocide, even if it’s only out of political convenience.
Along the northern border
Look, while most of the southern border rheroric is rooted in racism, I would say there is probably a bit of an issue there, just not nearly as terrible as these racist assholes keep pushing.
But Canada?
Are we pushing that Canada has a border issue now?
Its all those Canadians fleeing to the US for a better life and TERKIN ARE JERBS
/s
I’m not pushing anything. I’m just make sense of a premature question, and I think most of the people who voted Trump want the border secured on both sides.
Peoppe voting based on border walls, are entirely doing it because they think “all mexicans are violent rapist criminals.”
Its not about jobs or even immigration, its about racism.
If they really cared about jobs they would fight back against all the Indians on H1B Visas taking all the tech sector work.
I live in a northern border city. What benefit should I be on the lookout for?
Lesser numbers of illegal immigrants entering the country, both as a result of the tariff deal and increased enforcement.
That sounds like you think immigrants come with more problems than they resolve. If that was the case why are labor economists in consensus that all nations should have open borders?
If illegal immigration was actually harming American society wouldn’t the reasonable response be criminalizing hiring undocumented people and arresting the owners of businesses that hire these people, yet at no point is this suggested can you think of a reason why?
Not at all. I support legal immigration.
But I think the majority that voted for Trump firmly believe fewer illegal immigrants is a good thing.
Ok but that answers neither of my questions.
If legal vs illegal immigration mattered why do labor economists agree that we should only have open borders?
If illegal immigrants are an issue why not arrest those that employ these people since the employers are the ones creating the demand for their work? Why take the ineffective action of abusing people guilty of a crime equivalent to a mild misdemeanor?
But what are illegal immigrants doing that is bad? They pay taxes (sales tax, property tax via rent, and income tax if they have a stolen ID), they buy things, they contribute labor. We’re spending money to deport and hold them. It’s all a net negative.
If the problem is that they are undocumented, then document them. Give them work visas. They don’t get the right to vote or have access to welfare systems with a work visa.
How many children of immigrants speak really good English? They usually translate for their parents in my experience. Which means they are assimilating to the culture. It also seems most time the first child might have a more ethnic name, the first grandchildren usually have more American names.
Illegal immigrants commit less crime per capita, which makes sense because if you are here illegally and do crime, you get deported after your sentence. They have a bigger incentive to not do crime.
America was built by immigrants, we’re known as the cultural melting pot. When did it become such a big deal and so restricted to enter the country? Our birth rates arent high enough to sustain us forever, we need immigration. It just seems like we artificially made immigrating here harder so that people would inevitably sneak in so the capital owners had access to a cheaper workforce who won’t speak out about injustices for fear of being deported.
I agree. I would like to see a more robust legal immigration system too, but I don’t think that’s ever going to materialize.
There are some issues that are a golden goose for the two ruling parties, and the Republicans make a whole lot more money with immigration being illegal than they do if we have an immigration system that actually works. That’s money they can legally pocket by loaning cash to their campaigns at 20% interest, on top of taking “gifts” in exchange for lobbyist access, so they have a vested interest making sure it never changes.
With that said, this is what America voted for. We’re stuck with it.
Our explanations for the behavior of outsiders say more about our beliefs than theirs.
Even explanations that feel correct to us are almost certainly wrong in important ways.
There’s plenty of scholarship on the various reasons people support fascism, that’s probably your best chance for a full answer.
They will 100% sacrifice their own happiness and rights if they know it’s hurting people who live their lives is ways they don’t like.
This isn’t an exaggeration.
They literally want bloodshed and the world to burn
This is conservative vengeance
And everyone is going to suffer from it
I realized this during the 2016 election. People always say they are voting against their own interests, but their only real interest is to spite someone else. Hurting other people is a win, for them.
“Look in his eyes, it’s all lies. The stars after v be stripes have been swiped, washed out and wiped and replaced with his own face”
It was written about W but I think it applies again
The cruelty is the point.
Aren’t you cute? Did you come up with that all on your own? Or are you simply, and mindlessly, repeating an easy little slogan? Any idea of the origin of that, context, anything at all? No?
I didn’t leave reddit to come here and see children repeat slogans for upvotes.
If you’re hard-right, might as well join Truth Social
What’s your problem?
How could we forget? We’re all here to please you because you ditched Reddit. Congrats on that by the way, see ya around! 👋
What a shitty way to respond to an innocuous comment.
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There are two levels of maga, the exploited and the exploiters.
For the moronic rubes who vote for it, it is purely about the bigotry. Their daily life is going to get fucked up in so many ways, but that is ok because minorities.
For the the psychos exploiting the endless maga train of morons it is pure grift.
They think all of the gov’ment was corrupt and bad, so they’re cheering for the destruction of all gov’ment.
They’re too deep to take it back now they gotta go full nazi and act like everyone else is the problem
