• Tamlyn
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    103 months ago

    I like the design a bit more, but it’s nothing new, rather an upgrade to the switch. That’s fine for me. As long as tge switch 2 is a bit more durable i would be happy. Let’s see if that will be the case.

    • @slimerancher@lemmy.worldOPM
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      93 months ago

      Yeah, it’s exactly what I wanted. Won’t mind if there are any added features, but I am happy with a “powerful” switch.

  • AnimalsDream
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    I never bought the first Switch, so this is just another thing I won’t buy.

    Obligatory fuck Nintendo.

  • Rikj000
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    Woah the lawsuit company that makes games on the side did a thing other then filing lawsuits?

    Doesn’t matter, I won’t be spending any more money on Nintendouch products.

    They ruined enough fan projects for me to start hating them.

    And I have not even touched the subject of the calculated breaking point in the original Switch, better known as Joy-Cons.

    • AnimalsDream
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      43 months ago

      Agreed. Especially with x86 and the cornucopia of retro handhelds coming out all the time. Why would I want to waste money on a product that’s going to come out already inferior to the competition, with locked down software experience, from a company that bullies their own fans?

    • @bluemite@lemmy.world
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      23 months ago

      None of the fan projects would even be possible without Nintendo in the first place, but you do you.

      • AnimalsDream
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        13 months ago

        Umm, no? There would just be more fan projects of other games.

    • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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      23 months ago

      Great games, shitty company. Unfortunately, because of the first thing, a lot of people ignore (and even defend) the second thing.

  • @photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 months ago

    I love the form factor and size. Apparently it can handle 4K gaming, too. But the only game I want to play on this is Animal Crossing. I’ll hold out for that. Might as well get the AC special edition switch too… Hehehe…

    • @slimerancher@lemmy.worldOPM
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      53 months ago

      I haven’t been following the leaks, but from the comments here, it seems it will be by DLSS, that is AI upscaling.

  • Do we know anything about the types of sticks they’re using this time? The original Switch’s shit starts drifting so quickly… It’s why I sold the system and just kept my games. My PC and PS5 controllers haven’t broken once, but I went through 4 pairs of joycons in less than a year.

    • Sepix
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      Allegedly it will be Hall-Effect-Sticks.

    • Fubarberry
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      The drift that joycons get is almost always just caused by dirt/gunk under the joystick flaps. If you spray a little electrical cleaner up under the flaps it fixes the drift immediately. Might have to repeat it 1-2 times a year.

      It’s always bothered me how big of deal joycon drift is when it has such an easy fix. Obviously it would be better if I didn’t happen at all, but it seems silly that people are throwing away good controllers that only needed a 5 second cleaning. Only thing I’ve ever had to replace any of my joycon controllers over is problems with the rail connections to the switch, where it swaps back and forth between wireless and direct connected. But my original 2016 joycons are still going strong, just stuck as wireless only joycons.

      • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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        103 months ago

        You’re vastly downplaying the problem. There’s a reason a class action lawsuit went forward with tons of evidence backing up that it wasn’t simply the user’s error in properly maintaining the joycon. I’ve bought a joycon and had it started drifting within weeks before, even before I had kids. The sticks were just poorly designed, simple as that.

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          I’m not claiming it’s a standard maintenance practice, most people won’t have the spray, and aren’t accustomed to needing to needing to maintain a joystick like that.

          But it is truly a simple, cheap, easy fix for almost all cases of joystick drift (not just on joycons, but all controllers). I really think nintendo should have worked to spread the knowledge, and provided free cleaner to people with issues.

          • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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            23 months ago

            That was not the problem in “almost all cases.” Seriously, look up the class action lawsuit regarding it.

      • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆
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        Not only did I keep them clean like all my other electronics, I had taken them apart to do a deeper cleaning after responses like yours when I posted about it on Reddit. The drift still persisted. I wasn’t just tossing out $70 controllers because they were dirty.

        Even if that was the culprit, it still speaks to low quality when other controllers don’t need to be cleaned so often.

        • Fubarberry
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          Opening up the controller and cleaning the joysticks directly might have actually made it worse. The joysticks have their own lubrication, if you clean the directly you can remove that and ruin them.

          My experience has been that cleaning up the joysticks with the controller closed up is safe and generally fixes any drift or sticking buttons. Opening up the controller and trying to clean it with the same spray can be damaging and isn’t recommended.

          And to be clear, the actual stick mechanism can break down and cause drift too. But every case of joycon drift I’ve ever seen between my couple sets and friends’ sets were always fixed by a quick spray of cleaner.

    • @Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works
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      I do believe there are replacement sticks available nowadays that should mostly eliminate drift.

      Edit

      Yeah, I found them. They’re made by a company called Gulikit. I know the joycons are faulty little things, but I will hand it to nintendo that they’re the easiest controllers to work on currently. No soldering needed to replace the sticks.

      • @xyzzy@lemm.ee
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        73 months ago

        I did that exact replacement. One of the Hall replacements began drifting as well.

        I’ve never had drift on any other system. Weird.

        • @pivot_root@lemmy.world
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          Yeah, they’re not perfect as drop-in replacements.

          They fix the problem of the joystick inputs appearing to hitch when at the edges of the gate, but they have way worse variance in readings when in the default position.

          Anecdotally, I found Nintendo’s on-device calibration settings to suck. They don’t give enough control over deadzone and range parameters to actually make up for using a different sensor type. When repairing people’s joycons, I ended up using PC software to overwrite the joycon factory calibrations to make things actually behave…

      • @Varyag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        73 months ago

        Yeah I replaced mine with Gulikit sticks after they started drifting while playing BotW. They were surprisingly easy to service, no soldering or special tools required.

      • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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        Thanks for the tip in your edit. I had 4 pairs of official joycons drift, I eventually just bought a pair of 3rd party ones to keep mounted on it and those have been working fine for over 3 years now. I still have the official joycons, actually had 2 of them serviced and repaired by Nintendo after that class action lawsuit (Nintendo said they’d repair any drifting joycon for free regardless if they’re out of warranty).

        • nocturne
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          23 months ago

          I have had numerous sets start to drift, except the set that came with my Diablo special edition switch. I think those are 6 or 7 years old now. It is so odd those are fine but none of my others are.

  • @Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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    93 months ago

    Been like 8 years I kind of thought it would be a little different but the if it ain’t broke don’t fix it approach has made a lot of money for people in the past I suppose.

  • MudMan
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    Man, the lackadaisical reveal. Hilarious.

    Also, the Youtube video is called “Switch 2 First Look”. I see what you did there, Nintendo.

    • @ericdavidmorris@sh.itjust.works
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      Yeah I thought they were going to do more than just “here’s what it looks like!” we’ve already seen what it looks like from the leaks

      • MudMan
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        They were all “FINE. YOU WANNA SEE IT? HERE IT IS, LOOK AT IT. LOOK. AT. IT. LOOKS LIKE THE LEAKS, DOESN’T IT? NOW GO WAIT IN THE CORNER UNTIL APRIL”.

        I’m on board. Most empathetic I’ve felt towards Nintendo in ages.

    • @garretble@lemmy.world
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      83 months ago

      The only reason everyone is whelmed is because of all the leaks.

      Had no one known anything, we’d be talking about the bigger size, new joycons and such.

      Since there are no surprises we are just confirming what we already know.

      • MudMan
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        I don’t think so. This so far has big Game Boy Color vibes to me. Especially in the context of the Switch OLED being a thing. That’s not necessarily bad, but it’s definitely not comparable to the sheer WTF-ness of the DS, Wii or Switch reveals. And we knew what the Switch was in advance, too.

        Nintendo can have a hard time letting go of successful designs sometimes. At least they put a 2 on it instead of a U and made it clear that it’s a new system in the trailer.

        I’m ready to change my mind after the direct, but I think the reveal would always have been “Oh, it’s a bigger, more powerful Switch. Alright”.

      • @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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        33 months ago

        Just so you know, “whelmed” means the same thing as “overwhelmed”. The word you’re looking for here is “underwhelmed”.

    • @Kelly@lemmy.world
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      Hopefully they let the OG switch titles run with more horsepower.

      It would be simpler for them to drop the clock cycle on the new hardware down to match the original hardware when running the BC titles, that way they don’t have to do as much testing to look for side effects.

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        do you know if they have a pc at all? or the pc version of the game?

        I’m all for it but i hate this “just do on PC” take

        • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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          103 months ago

          or the pc version of the game?

          If you manage to find a PC version of Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom, please be sure to disable your antivirus before running the .exe and report back with what it does to your PC.

          Playing it on PC requires an emulator and a ripped copy of the game.

              • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆
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                It’s my favorite echo chamber lol But yeah, I don’t think Linux will ever have the mass appeal that Windows and Mac do, and that’s okay. Still, it’s cool that gaming has been getting easier on Linux what with Proton and native support. It made it feel like I wasn’t giving something up when I gave up Windows.

          • hswolf
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            13 months ago

            A ripped copy Isn’t 100% a malicious one, as you can rip your own copy, which many people do to be able to play on pc

            • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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              I know. My point was that there’s no PC version of the game; Anything claiming to be a PC version is likely malware. Playing on PC requires emulation.

      • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆
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        Lmao I bought my monitors in 2013. It’s 1080p60 here. I have to use adapters because nothing has DVI out anymore. I don’t even care about 4K. 1080p60 is good enough for me. Now excuse me while I burn a CD for my manual 90s car. Today’s soundtrack is The Bends and the moonroof will be open.

  • atocci
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    183 months ago

    The JoyCon mouse theory is looking pretty solid now

    • TAG
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      Does it? They did show the controllers in the sensor down orientation, but the mouse theory is too wacky.

      • @garretble@lemmy.world
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        If you have a joy con handy, take it and place it on a mousepad and move it around. It feels surprisingly good in the hand.

        How great would Mario Maker 3 be if you had a mouse input to place all the blocks and select items and stuff.

        Or maybe even a track editor for the new Mario Kart! That’d be sweet. And with the mouse they could really let you shape tracks and add foliage easier.

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          Or just make it where you can plug a mouse into the USB port. Or Bluetooth. Mario Paint for the SNES had a mouse. No need to get crazy designing stuff for dual functions

          • @garretble@lemmy.world
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            43 months ago

            They can easily do both (have the joycons mouse and ability to use a regular mouse).

            And maybe you want to play a mouse game and only have the switch with you. Boom, you have a mouse with you already.

          • TAG
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            I have heard that the current Switch already supports mice, but very few games use it, since no one has a mouse connected to their Switch, since almost no games use it. If there is an (uncomfortable) mouse included in every Switch 2, game devs will be more willing to include mouse controls in their games. Players who play a lot of mouse enabled games will hook up a real mouse to their system. Much in the same way that every game for the current Switch supports Joycon controls even though many hobbyist gamers will use a more traditional controller.

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        It wouldn’t even be the first time Nintendo released a mouse.

          • Kernal64
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            I would be there day fucking one for that. I have zero artistic talent, but Mario Paint was one of my favorite SNES games. If they do this, I really hope they keep that fly swatter mini game.

      • atocci
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        Not just in sensor-down orientation, but sliding around on a surface in the new wrist strap attachment which appears to have sliders on the “bottom” now

  • @maplebar@lemmy.world
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    Maybe this is what the average normie wants, but this feels like Nintendo’s least innovative console yet.

    • @inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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      Yeeeah, I’m kinda surprised people are feeling hype for this? Idk. I’m probably gonna try and snag one but ONLY because a few years ago my ex got the switch in the breakup. If I already had a switch what exactly are the reasons to buy an upgrade?

    • @garretble@lemmy.world
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      A thing I just thought of is that it’d be super cool if - by using the joy con as a mouse - they had a track creator mode where you could share custom tracks.

      • 0xED
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        I keep hoping for Mario Kart Ultimate with every retro track, but I know I’m just setting myself up for disappointment.

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          That would be cool, but super challenging to do.

          From the exec perspective on that I don’t see them justifying the hours to do it vs the appeal to gamers now.

      • @philycheeze@sh.itjust.works
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        It’s doesn’t say Mario Kart 9 but that does look like new character models to me. I’m expecting them to drop the numbering system and go back to subtitles anyway though.

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      I made this FOSS template for easy reuse.

      def describe_nintendo_creativity(nintendo_game_name, new_version_number):
          print(
              f"Hm, {nintendo_game_name} {new_version_number} seems to look pretty similar " 
              f"to {nintendo_game_name} {new_version_number - 1}."
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      describe_nintendo_creativity("Mario Kart", 9)
      describe_nintendo_creativity("Pokemon", 21)
      
  • @21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com
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    I don’t have the slightest clue what anybody expected in a redesign. They’ve kinda got a winning formula for what they’re trying to accomplish with the device, the sequel probably wasn’t going to look all that different.