KEY POINTS
- Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, whom President-elect Donald Trump appointed to lead a new government efficiency team, said they intend to call federal employees back to the office five days a week.
- Companies such as Amazon and The Washington Post are adopting a similar policy in 2025.
- But many companies will keep remote or hybrid work arrangements, largely because they boost profits, economists said.
- Some view return-to-office mandates as a stealthy way to reduce employee head count.
Rip Disabled people I guess.
And this is coming from the same peoppe saying “just get a job”.
You gotta provide accomodations my guy.
I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if they re-invent Aktion T4 and kill all the undesirables. It’s just much more efficient, you know?
Ramaswamy should be shipped back to his dalit homeland
He’s a terrible human being, but I don’t think he deserves to be sent back to Ohio.
Billionaires need to be taxed out of existance.
At least until everyone has homes, food, healthcare, freedom, and education.
naw. keep the tax around, keep them from coming back.
I was being sarcastic. You can’t have billionaires without exploiting everyone’s basic human needs for food, shelter, safety, healthcare, or freedom, and they’ll figure that out with a proper education.
That’s certainly one of the two ways.
No taxation without as… I mean representation?
Elon is probably only carrying that child on his shoulders all the time now as a human shield.
Is it a reference to the recent alt account thing?
I unironically believe this to be true.
I thought he was practicing to do that with Trump.
It would be nice to see poo trickling down Elon’s back every day
If he’d ever actually parented any of his children he’d have already experienced that at least once.
Which is how you know he knows fuck-all about America, cause we’re kinda indifferent to both collateral casualties and gun violence being the number one cause of death for children.
What’s the other one? Saving a ‘t’ in the process?
LikeBillionaires need to be
taxed out of existance.?
Can Musk please, please, please, just fucking die already? Preferably burnt to death while trapped in a cybertruck. He’s just so stupid and has too much power, and I’m tired of people treating him like he’s worth more than utter contempt.
Ramaswamy can go, too. Conspiracy theory peddling sycophant.
Or just have him go to mars or something. And take Bezos with him. With some luck, they will miss Mars… Or be stuck there.
With some luck, they will hit Mars…
FTFY
Covid - the best times of our lives
If COVID was the best, just wait till bird flu gets here.
They probably won’t lock down again. It will be full steam ahead for the economy. Keep throwing bodies into the burner.
All hail the Economy. We must sacrifice the plebs to make sure the Economy continues to award those at the top.
It’s in my union contract. Your move, hair plugs.
HE’S WORKING FROM FUCKING MARALAGO FUCK YOU
First remote job I had was in 2010 making barely more than minimum wage for tier 1 phone support. These guys are off their rockers.
Elon after 2024/12/04:
Seems like he has a pretty exposed area there above the neck…
Well, Elon is smarter than that. That’s why you see him carrying little X on his shoulders everywhere now…
I mean, that’s the trolley problem. Someone would pull the lever to kill the billionaire even if it meant hurting a child. Sucks, but musk’s continued existence is probably going to harm millions of children.
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stupid control freaks. Because controlling of their employees is what RTO is about, control and paranoia.
They are stupid paranoid control freaks who fear that their neat buildings stand empty and they cant just throw work at their wage slaves. So this is actually about control, paranoia, and vanity.
Don’t forget sweetheart tax breaks from local municipalities on real estate!
Sure you can have this huge complex company, because we know the 1500 people who work from the office will frequent the local Subway for lunch and that’s sales tax!
The stupid thing is I actively do less work in the office.
I actively do less work in the office.
This is known. It’s been proven; for introverts and/or ADHD especially, since the interaction is stressful and/or completely disturbing. The difference is stark.
But, for extroverts, the office can be where they thrive, and it’s the environment that lures them in. So unless they adapt (what? Them? But adapting is for the introverts who run the shit) quickly, they’re gonna be fish outta water in short order.
There’s absolutely no automatic tangible benefit to RTO for those jobs that are remote capable (ie anything at a desk with no customer interface). Only a subset works marginally better with people to disturb, and I’ll question even that number or the benefit. The only reason they want you back in is this lie about being unable to manage your ass unless they can see your ass – which is the creepiest way to cover for “sunk cost fallacy” for the space lease.
But yeah, keep some space for extroverts who can’t cope. It’s us being the better people about it.
Many people do for the sole reason that you’re more productive when you’re comfortable and you’re probably going to be more comfortable at home.
pretty much every office I’ve had to work in was either too cold or too hot. Hoodies in the summer and t-shirts in the winter. I don’t have that problem at home.
Most mixed gender offices will have that issue. But also among the same gender one person is comfy at 19°C and another needs 23°C to not be cold.
One of the offices I worked in the HVAC was bizarre. The thermostat was by sales, but the cold air came out of a vent by eng on the other side of the building. Sales was hot, so they’d set a lower temperature. Eng would then get blasted by cold air, and sales would still be hot.
“Nothing to be done about it. Wear a hoodie” said management. Fuck that.
Almost all desk work should be ad hoc.
Get your shit done. Then do what ever until there’s more work to do.
That and they don’t understand how to manage people remotely.
One of the benefits of working from home has been that my manager can no longer use standing staring at me as his main means of judging whether I’m doing work. The whole business of needing to see people working just smacks of shitty management.
So their reasons is control, paranoia, vanity, incompetence when it comes to remote management and their undivided devotion to the American Dollar.
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Man, I don’t even get a comfy chair!
Now wait a minute, I saw your review!
WORK chair. :)
My new Aeron arrived two weeks ago. It replaced my 18 year old … Aeron. It has served me well, and needs just 200 in repairs (new pads, new struts, cylinder) so I may give it to my cousin.
Yeah. Comfy chair, cool lifty desk, sweet river view, floofy cats. I dearly hope we can keep WFBest in our next union contract too.
That and they don’t understand how to manage people
remotely.FTFY
Largely also true. In my office, my manager is remote anyway, so it doesn’t matter if I’m in my local office or home office.
What i don’t get in all of this: There are already companies that did go out of business because too many people just left, due to them not being able to do WFH. Personally, I do like going to the office 1-2 times a week, but even I would leave the company if the got rid of WFH completely. There’s near full employment everywhere, especially tech companies already have to go the extra mile to get people to work for them. Why would anyone stay at a company that does not do WFH, if that’s one thing they got to enjoy?
These large tech companies are relying upon their brand to keep talent. Amazon and the rest all believe people will put up with shit to have their company listed on someone’s CV.
Or it’s all about quiet layoffs.
This is why they’re also fighting for those visas. They want to hire people but don’t want to pay US wages. And when your residency depends on your employment, you’re going to be much less likely to call out bullshit or whatever
I’ve been working remotely long before the pandemic and I will continue to do so - I’m far from being alone in that. Also, we are still in the “covid-era”, we just collectively decided to pretend we aren’t.
Fuck it, I’m saying it, I’m less productive when I work from home. I get to fuck off easier and I do genuinely miss in person collaboration on complex problems.
That said, I’m probably never going to work another job that is more than 2 day hybrid. If every company in the world decided they would go back to 100% in person, I’d have to go back to working harder but as long as some companies care a tiny bit about the wellbeing of their workers, there will be this continuous push/pull of most companies wanting to squeeze every ounce of juice out of every worker.
Tech is a weird industry tho. There are some companies that just rely on churn and burn through employees (cough cough spacex cough cough amazon cough cough). I’m lucky to have ended up in a specific sector where there is a lot of attrition due to frustration so they kind of just deal with the fact that they aren’t gonna get 100% out of everyone.
All that is to say is that there are some interesting dynamics at play and I’ll hold the line, but there is a grain of truth in there but fuck capitalism, not everything has to be done as efficiently and as profitable as possible. Let people just live and work and chill
I appreciate you sharing your opinion even though it may be unpopular.
Fuck it, I’m saying it, I’m less productive when I work from home. I get to fuck off easier and I do genuinely miss in person collaboration on complex problems.
This is me right here. But I go in 3 times a week into the office for my BioTech job. Works great for me.
I don’t really find “I fuck off more at home” especially compelling. That sounds like a problem for you and your manager to deal with, and not something that everyone else needs to suffer for.
He needs us more than we need him.
he should probably let that sink in.
He just needs a firm reminder from a true patriot at the end of their rope.
I expect that he’ll push for some kind of corporate tax credit to companies that have in-person employees. To help tip the scales.
He thinks it’ll increase control, but it’s just as likely to rile up discontent. Especially targeted towards him.
