fucking good.

45% is considerably higher than I expected. I thought it would be closer to 10-15%.

Heaven isn’t real

Crazy that it takes the church shitting down for them to actually follow gods message of giving to the poor.

Hallelujah!

Next up: Republicans trying to make church attendance mandatory.

Pit of vipers closes due to insufficient snakebite volunteers.

The small churches that are more likely to actually be charitable and are more likely to be inclusive will shut down. The bigot-run megachurches will be just fine.

Some churches repurpose their land to survive, like Atlanta’s First United Methodist Church, which is building affordable housing.

That’s something more churches should do. They always preach about “helping the poor” but most don’t give a fuck.

And some are forced to sell off the massive amount of prime real estate they were totally going to build churches on and not pay any taxes on the profits…

but if they don’t get 10% of everyone’s income how can they afford to reallocate and protect the offenders??

quite region dependent, in the rural south they’re still pretty strong, in the rest of the country and in large cities, not so much

I have a better idea. Seize the land and assets of the churches. They haven’t contributed their fair share of taxes, so the land belongs to us.

Next seize the homes and bank accounts of the pastors and clergy and the holy rapists (or whatever they call themselves). Indict them in international courts for crimes against humanity. Offer them plea deals for them to work in their seized homes that are now converted to public housing.

Congrats to Buffalo, it sounds like things are looking up there.

In my area (WA state) there was a small-ish Xian church (the one-storey building was probably <2000 sq ft and cheaply built - the steeple-ish thing (w/o a bell of course) blew off in a windstorm once)) that shut down a year or two ago and was boarded-up. It’s been repurposed as a homeless shelter that specifically serves people with serious medical problems. The change has greatly improved the 'hood.

People here are arguing for the (gate-kept) community that Xian churches once offered in the US. By “gate-kept” I’m referring to the fact that Xian churches were, and are, open to only the “right kind” of people. I’m sympathetic to the need for community, and have even looked around locally for what’s on offer from Xian or Xian-aligned/compatible organizations, but haven’t found any that promote an ideology that isn’t based on superstition and that don’t demand that I defer in all things moral/ontological to a human power hierarchy within the church. One whose authority, such as it is, is based on “it’s in the Book”.

Hard pass on that. I’ll find my community through volunteering and possibly, one day, through fraternal orgs, though I’ve found the ones around here (Masons, Rotary, &etc) are still hardcore on gatekeeping themselves, despite being on the wane just as much as Xian churches are. If you think you’d be most comfortable in a Xian-churchy sort of context, but are politically and socially “liberal”, the UCC seems pretty inoffensive, though they still (at least locally here) carry on about “worshipping” invisible deities all the time. The Unitarian Universalists (uua.org) seem the least offensive of any old-timey church that I’ve encountered and it has a certain appeal to me for its association with New England and with 19th-century intellectuals like Emerson and Thoreau. The local UUs have had a local schism in the past five years, with the historical church taking a politically rightward lurch and another UU church spinning-off it but seemingly being more preoccupied with how their church is controlled (no more all-powerful pastor-types, only collective decision-making allowed) and less with charity and community. Finally we have Unity here (unity.org) which has potential for community, but where weekly service addendees seem to be almost exclusively elderly, so I wonder how much longer it will be a going concern?

I’m hoping that someday we get a Satanic Temple that meets in-person here. I could definitely see myself joining that. The Church of the Subgenius (https://www.subgenius.com/), praise “Bob”, would suit me well too, and I already own a copy of the Sacred Text, but they don’t meet in person AFAIK.

The church is nothing but a tool of opposition. Glad to see it have less influence.