This has been bugging me of late so I’ll ask here even though FTR I hate that I agree with Trump:
Why don’t we just split the difference and offset by 30 min for the whole year/permanently?
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I understand what you mean, BUT I live in AZ and Im not going to have AZ be both 30 minutes ahead of Cali, 30 minutes behind Utah, and an hour and 30 behind New Mexico. No, you all either fall in line with how time is supposed to work or you can keep doing your shitty Daylight Savings bullshit
I take it AZ doesn’t follow DST? I don’t see how springing ahead 30min instead of the hour next time and being done would cause that much of an issue
Im going to guess youre not from the US? Heres a Time Zone map with the States listed.
I got my own groupings of time zones a little twisted in my head, I didnt think New Mexico was Mountain Time. Regardless, Arizona and Hawaii dont follow DST. Shifting all the US states by 30 minutes for an arbitrary reason doesnt solve anything really and kind of just fucks with global time standards.
Just adopt GMT and make time meaningless.
Nah, not GMT. UTC. It’s the more accurate successor, and all computers already use it.
Not to mention, everyone will always know what time you are talking about anywhere in the world, and based on your own experience, you know if it will be during the day or not.
Timezones will no longer matter, making software handling time so much easier.
I support this idea however it will never happen.People are going to want 9 am to be when the sun comes up.
Switching to a different 24 hour clock won’t help. People are use to 10 being when the sun is up and 23 when the night is happening.
Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.
Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.
Have you really thought this through?
It’s 12 pm in New York.
It’s 9 am in California.
Sun rised at 7 am in NY today
Sun rised at 7 am in CA today
It was 10 am in NY when sun rose in CA
So let’s say we get on one clock.
That means sun rises in California at 4 am
So now everyone in California has to shift their whole schedule around that.
7 am sunrise, 9am-5pm work (Sun set begins at 4.5pm)
Would become 4 am sunrise, 6am-2pm work (Sun set begins at 1:30pm)
How is that the best thing ever?
They’re effectively the same thing
Because compromise makes neither side truly happy
We are already trying to compromise with switch back and forth.
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
I personally don’t even care which one, I just want either of them and make it permanent.
Okay, I’ll choose, keep the sun up later. Make the day last till at least 7 PM in the winter. That way I can still see it after work. I don’t give a shit when I’m driving to work.
This would work great in some places, others might finish lunch as the sun rises.
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
What would be complicated?
Uhhh…the rest of the world being 30 minutes + however many hours different?
Converting times to other timezones would be extra annoying.
It’s already too anoying to deal with.
Splitting the difference would be slightly easier, since it stops changing at arbitrary days of the year.It would still change at arbitrary days, because other countries will still use it.
God no. The math with timezones is painful enough without having to deal with half hour offsets.
Actually, there are some timezones with offsets of half or even quarter hours, but the company where I work in software engineering doesn’t do any business in those timezones, so I’ve never had to deal with that particular brand of madness.
Just get rid of DST. It was never a good idea. “Noon” should mean that the sun is directly overhead (or at least directly overhead east-west-wise if not north-south-wise) and “midnight” should be the midpoint between any two adjacent noons. (Ok, yes, if you live on the extreme eastern or western edge of a timezone, then at noon, the position of the sun may be up to 7.5° off of directly overhead east-west-wise. But yeah.)
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It’s funny because extending DST is the only productive thing W. did too
This was on the docket to be voted on in 2023 (i think, could have been 2022) and it never made it to the floor. Why? His cronies. They just let it fall by the side, probably so they could do it now. I’m so sick and tired of this shit show if a govt. Failed fucking state.
This needs to be top comment. So many little things he does that sane people like are just things Republicans blocked until they could be the ones to do the thing.
Seriously, this was suppose to have happened like five years ago!
Any state can abolish DST on its own, some have already done so.
There was a bill in Congress to put the entire country on permanent DST (which states can’t do on their own). It died because (a) some states don’t want permanent DST, and (b) doctors have found that permanent DST is less healthy than no DST.
In fact, Congress already tried permanent DST briefly in the 70s. Some children were killed in early morning traffic accidents, schools responded by shifting their winter hours later, and the public generally turned against it.
Would that even work on Indian reservations - can congress override their choices?
Besides impotently complaining about it on the internet, what else can we do about it?
Impotently complain harder
Based
Finally something even the left can get behind.
This has been in talks for years already. This is not a Trump thing The Senate passed the act that would have removed it unanimously in 2022
With all this insane shit going on, it might actually end up having one benefit
This sucks because it means he absolutely definitely will not do this.
It’s just two weeks away bro, I swear
If I remember correctly, the issue last time is that they wanted us on permanent Daylight Savings Time, instead of Standard Time. So I expect Trump to force the U.S. onto permanent DST, just because all science says it would be worse for us than going to Standard.
Science says it’s better to have day light in the morning and dark at night
But people aren’t waking up at 5am and going to bed at 5pm so it really doesn’t enforce standard time
How is it worse? I want permanent DST so bad
Standard time is better for health, someone made a better argument for it in some other thread
Ah an argument, well I guess it’s settled then and it won’t ever be worse than the other way around
Right, you’re free to look it up further but it messes with the internal clock or something. For my latitude, DST sucks
Fuck that. Clock noon and solar noon need to diverge less, not more.
I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I want permanent DST. I want it to be light when I get home so I can spend some time outside without a flashlight. I don’t care if it’s dark in the morning, I’m working. Don’t tell me to just work different hours, I already work 6am-3pm, which is the earliest I’m allowed at my current job, and a lot earlier than allowed by many jobs. I still only get about an hour before dark where I live.
Sunrise here 10:20 and sunset 12:30. Darkness is our fren
Darkness is our fren
Have they come to talk with you again?
Yes, because a vision softly creeping left its seeds while I was sleeping.
Probably the only good thing he’d ever do, look forward to seeing how they fuck it up.
Broken clock.
Twice a year?
Gonna piss off the farmers, until they get their subsidiary check for growing corn (for high fructose corn syrup) instead of feeding the population.
Everything will piss off the farmers.
Removing daylight saving is actually something they want, because it fucks with their routine, but sure, they’ll be pissed off about removing it too.
Aye, there is a large coalition of farmers that typically remind people their day doesn’t typically revolve around the time we arbitrarily set, but the sun’s presence or not. They can plan for the store to be open whenever, but working when you can see (and/or it’s not too cold/hot) is immutable.
To avoid confusion, all of the US will be on DTT (Donald Trump Time), which will vary based on where he currently is.
Do not give him ideas, please.
Didn’t that little rascal George Bush 2 try this and fail? Expecting the same results.
Biden did aswell
In other news, RFK has recommended extending this to eliminate both daylight and time.
It’s weird how I watched VEEP last year and here it is coming true.
