Summary

Donald Trump plans to ban transgender individuals from military service shortly after his inauguration, reversing President Biden’s 2021 policy and expelling about 15,000 serving trans troops.

Critics, including advocacy groups and military experts, warn this move will exacerbate recruitment and retention challenges, harm unit cohesion, and create skill gaps amid existing shortfalls.

The order aligns with Trump’s broader anti-trans agenda, which includes banning gender-affirming care and restricting trans rights nationwide.

Legal challenges are anticipated as the military faces administrative and operational disruptions.

    • @Pechente@feddit.org
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      855 months ago

      Seriously, pretty much all people I‘ve met who are offended by LGBTQ people have either suppressed desires or are really insecure about their own sexuality in some way.

      It’s like that Hungarian minister who constantly attacked gay people until he was found by police at an illegal gay orgy in Brussels (illegal since it was during Covid lockdowns).

      • @Mirshe@lemmy.world
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        545 months ago

        Let’s not overshadow the fact that people DO hate us just because they need someone to hate, or because their religion says to, or because their politics says to. Trying to pretty it up or make it “less bad” because they’re all secretly gay doesn’t help.

        • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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          I detest the “all homophobes are secretly gay” thing so much.

          What it’s saying, in effect, is that queer people are responsible for our own oppression. Because if every homophobe is secretly queer, then no straight person can ever be homophobic. If they were, they wouldn’t be straight, by definition.

          The only way that argument works is if we’re actually arguing that there is no such as being straight, and that everyone is at least 1% bisexual. There’s some basis for that, especially in studies of ancient cultures and uncontacted tribes. But until we start taking that seriously as an idea (and that is a very, very contentious idea to be taking seriously), this “Only queer people can be homophobic” nonsense has got to stop.

          • @Revan343@lemmy.ca
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            I don’t think anybody thinks that only queer folk can be homophobic, but it does happen quite often. Usually it’s the fault of heteronormative indoctrination, religious or otherwise (which is also usually the problem when straight folk are homophobic)

      • lad
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        05 months ago

        There’s also some women that were so traumatised by experience with men that they are afraid trans women will attack women, and creeps will claim they are trans to elude punishment. I think this is a real problem, but much rarer than it may seem, and it’s not a good enough reason to say that trans women don’t/shouldn’t exist. Maybe it’s because I’m too privileged to understand

        • @Brown5500@sh.itjust.works
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          85 months ago

          Please provide a source to 1 instance in the history of the world where an abuser used cross-dressing as the primary way to gain access to his victims…we’ll wait.

          Yes, people are scared of this. But, only bc GOP leaders tell them to be. It’s a made up fear that cannot be legitimized like you are trying to do

          • lad
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            25 months ago

            I’m not trying to legitimise anything, but when I try to convince such people, I usually fail, that’s why I brought it up. Yes it’s weaponising fear and it’s the same irrational beliefs that make people racist or nazi, and a lot of other things, I think

            Regarding the sources, I think it’s stories like this or this that makes them worry, don’t know if sources are credible, first one looks pretty fake.

            nitpick

            besides, I didn’t say

            used cross-dressing as the primary way

            it can be opportunistic, not modus operandi, I only think that this is realistic because statistically speaking there are enough abusers on the planet so that at least some could try doing that

  • @quicksand@lemm.ee
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    Hopefully the discharge is honorable and their service helps them get a good civilian job where they are happy and accepted

    • Queen HawlSera
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      We’ll be lucky if they get a dishonorable discharge, because the way the GOP stands now… a firing squad isn’t out of the question.

      I am disgusted by the world.

      Fuck you Mace, Fuck you Elon, and FUCK YOU everyone who voted for Trump and signing my death warrant.

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        Elon ESPECIALLY hates trans people because his own trans kid disowned him

        • Queen HawlSera
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          15 months ago

          I feel like it’s not fair to have a vendetta against all Transpeople for that.

          I mean Elon said “The Woke Mind Virus took [her] from me! {She’s] my [daughter] damn it!”

          and I’m like “Are you sure it was the Woke Mob? Are you sure it wasn’t… you neglected and abused her, so she hates you?”

  • @IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
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    It’s so strange how this same action could be attributed to him being an ally or even just a cuck.

    “The trans community is a beacon of Hope that must be protected at all costs. Under no circumstances will I allow any trans person to fight or die for our country, as they are the ones our country should be protecting most.”

  • @islands@lemmy.cafe
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    515 months ago

    They want to deport the Mexicans, ban the Muslims, kick out the trans and (ultimately) the gays… they want anyone who isn’t a complaint WASP to be banished from society. They think they can do it all themselves. But they’re going to find out real quick that they can’t.

      • @Zink@programming.dev
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        Yeah, in the future when the economy is hurting from a lack of population growth, it will be because the white women aren’t popping out enough babies and definitely not because the Republican hate machine threw out or killed millions of people who were already contributing to society.

    • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      155 months ago

      They want to deport the Mexicans, ban the Muslims, kick out the trans and (ultimately) the gays…

      It’s gonna be great watching centrists pretend that they didn’t just spend the election cycle moving to the right on immigration, supporting an ongoing genocide in Gaza, and parroting right wing hate against trans people in their own campaign ads.

      They think they can do it all themselves.

      If Democrats’ actions of the past months are anything to go on, Republicans won’t have to do it all themselves. They’ll have help from Democrats.

    • @wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org
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      145 months ago

      I still remember the labor shortage from all the deportations when they found out they need immigrants to do the work no one wants to do. They never seem to learn

  • TooManyFoods
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    245 months ago

    Hey! Let’s send over 10k of the people we trained how to use weapons professionally home in a clearly discriminatory manner instead of letting them keep their jobs. That will do wonders for political stability.

  • @MyOpinion@lemm.ee
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    I am curious when he is going to start placing them in concentration camps along with all the other people that have spoken out against the glorious leader.

  • SnowboardBum
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    This motherfucker wouldn’t know what it was to serve your country.

  • @Darkard@lemmy.world
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    215 months ago

    This is less to do with the perceived quality of trans troops and more to do with making sure that the the current target of the boot doesn’t know how to fight back.

  • @alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    If you know anyone who is currently in the military, tell them they need to get their disability rating ASAP.

    • fadingembers
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      65 months ago

      Don’t worry the incoming administration has gone on record numerous times about cracking down on veteran disability…

      • Yep! Told my family that once they strip me of my disability, I will be priced-out of society: I won’t be able to afford my house anymore, I won’t be able to afford my bills, and I will likely lose everything. And I’ll likely have nothing to live for.

        They tell me I’m overreacting and that there are “checks and balances” in place to prevent them from doing that stuff. I just point at Roe v Wade and they tend to change the subject.

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          25 months ago

          The amount of gaslighting we’re experiencing for things that are already in motion is ridiculous. People would rather bury their heads in the sand than acknowledge reality

  • @slickgoat@lemmy.world
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    The ways things are trending he may, quite inadvertently, save their lives in doing so. This is a sad epoch we are living in.

  • @NastyNative@mander.xyz
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    To be honest they have a history of switching sides… just a joke I heard take it easy! I dont know how I feel about this, I think it should be like anything else. Can you do the job well? if so then you belong in the military.

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        25 months ago

        I believe that the focus should be on an individual’s capabilities and qualifications for the job, regardless of race, size, or color. What matters most is their ability to perform effectively