Summary
Stephen Moore, a senior economic adviser to US president-elect Donald Trump, urged the UK to adopt the US “free enterprise” model over Europe’s “more socialist” system, suggesting it would enhance the Trump administration’s “willingness” to pursue a UK-US trade deal.
Moore also defended US agricultural practices and Trump’s proposed 10% blanket import tariff, noting possible exemptions for allies like the UK.
UK leaders, including Keir Starmer, face pressure to balance trade ties with both the EU and US, with figures like Peter Mandelson advocating dual trade agreements amid Brexit challenges.
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Pick socialism, dont fall for it. Dont become corporate property. Dont let them own the world.
Socialism isn’t even on offer these days. What Republicans consider socialist stretches all the way from communism to conservatism.
“US economic model.”
It’s capitalism. Unfettered capitalism.
So either embrace corporatism or be branded a commie he means?
I’ll take the branding.
They’ll choose Trumpism. Starmer inherited the legacy of the Brexit referendum, and if he’s seen as veering towards the European approach, the oligarch-owned press will have his guts for garters and Nigel Farage in No. 10. As such, he’ll have no choice but to make a speech acknowledging this and rejecting the European approach in principle.
I really really hope you’re wrong.
I strongly recommend the UK focus on the US as a trading partner. It is obviously more sensible to ship your imports and exports to and from a market some 5000 km away, than to the market just 50 km away. Clearly your population will love fruits being either 2 weeks old at least or flown in. That fits the english taste best anyways.
Not to forget going with an ally as stable and consistent as Trump and his pack. I hope Britains like extortion.
Britons*
Slightly drunk, but I appreciate it 💖
Isn’t that what made them big back in the day?
*this time the receiving end
Americans talking about socialism is like teenagers talking about sex
Zero clue
Isn’t Afd the far right German party in power currently? Brothers of Italy seems to hate trans people or at least Giorgia Meloni does.
This dude’s a piece of shit grifter and treating listeners like marks.
No, Germany has a coalition between the Social Democrats (i.e. Labour/Dems) and Greens, which is in minority as the Free Democrats (i.e. Ayn Rand fans) dropped out because everyone else was sick of their bullshit.
If AfD were in power, Germany would be providing arms to Russia to help it stabilise its region. A lot of things will happen before that does, up to and including a CDU/SDP left-right grand coalition.
up to and including a CDU/SDP left-right grand coalition.
Wasn’t the CDU talking about revising their “under no circumstance, ever” attitude towards Die Linke. Not terribly relevant right now with Die Linke’s numbers but it’s notable they’re even talking about it.
The current state coalitions are rather… diverse. In case Die Linke uses its new-found freedom from BSW types to turn itself around it could actually become relevant.
Ahh right on thanks for informing me! Good to hear that things aren’t as dire in Europe as I thought.
Afd gathered significant votes, but they’re far from in power in the country. They are in power in one… you could say county, but they’re fucking up as we speak.
I don’t mind working with the US even with Trump leading, but the EU is clearly a natural partner. They’re right at our doorstep.
What is more worrying is what Trump thinks of the EU. This guy is a threat to democracy and international law.
And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.
This world is completely screwed with politicians like Trump in power.
Yeah, of the world’s leaders vast majority of them are dictators or wannabe dictators. Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping, Modi, Netanyahu, Erdoğan, Orban and the list goes on.
And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.
In there pursuit of being a more effective controlled opposition. Voters didn’t ask for this. Harris ran a conservative campaign and loss on that. Don’t let the democrats blame the left for their loss.
TIL I live in socialist EU.
TIL I’m emigrating to socialist EU.
No, the UK isn’t in the EU. Unless I’m misremembering your posts
I realize this. I was joking that the UK isn’t going to take up Trump’s economic model. It isn’t going to be like the EU either.
Lucky you
If you consider that European conservative parties are on the same political spectrum range as the US Democrats, and the US Republicans are basically the European neo-Nazis, this makes Americans see normal European social-Democratic parties as “communists”.
The American political spectrum has shifted to the right in ways that prepared the ground for Trumps coming Machtergreifung.
Must be a different EU
The Union shall establish an internal market. It shall work for the sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.
Emphasis mine. In a nutshell a social market economy is a Realpolitik compromise between capitalism and market socialism, where private ownership of the means of production is tolerated but said ownership doesn’t entail complete power over it, through e.g. co-determination laws.
To make this more concrete, and maybe blow some Yank’s mind: Volkswagen’s employees elect 50% - 1 seats on the board. Together with shares held by Lower Saxony (usually run by a socdem government) they run the place, no matter how many shares the Porsche/Piëch clan and the Saudis have. It’s why VW itself worked towards unionising its own plant in Chattanooga, to the bewilderment of many. Sadly can’t unionise the plants in China the CCP hates it when workers have a say.
Ironic for China to not like unions.
OMG they cat even communist properly.
Tankies gonna tank.
Remember how great Brexit was, they say.
Yes UK is an economic powerhouse now thanks Brexit
Britannia rules the waves.
“C’mon, guys, be fascist like us!”
Oh boy, he’s going after the NHS like he tried a couple of years ago. Brits need to fight this and don’t fall for our predatory private healthcare system that prioritizes money over human lives.
It’s time for another episode of “Everything I Don’t Like Is Socialism” with Donnie Temper Tantrum!
Poor can work at the Mar-a-Lago for food or die in a gutter. That’s the American way.
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