Maybe I am going crazy, but I have noticed a difference about ice cream and its only been Maybe the last 8-10 years was when I first noticed it.

Ice cream from the supermarket doesn’t seem to melt properly, and is also way too soft. This seems most noticeable in novelties now, but also most hard ice cream as well.

Did they add some component to make it softer or less likely to freezer burn? Am I just going crazy?

(US, but I assume anywhere else where the same brands are sold have had the same issue.)

  • I will never get over Breyer’s ice cream going cheap.

    Have you looked at Häagen-Dazs? I only looked at their plain chocolate flavor, but the ingredients are only Cream, Skim Milk, Cane Sugar, Cocoa Processed With Alkali, and Egg Yolks. That’s the real deal right there!

    I like Ben and Jerry’s, but I definitely know that it’s not “real” ice cream. They shine because they have good flavor combinations.

    Bruster’s and Graeter’s are ice cream shops that make their ice cream in-house. They also contain stabilizers but I prefer it over what’s in the grocery store. I’m not sure if that is because I’m used to it or what. If you have a location for either of these near you, I would check them out.

    Lastly, I would check if you have any local places that make their own ice cream. You might find what you’re looking for there.

    • @Jarix@lemmy.world
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      Chapmans is my go to grocery store ice cream now that breyers has been garbage for more than a few years. It’s not sending, but it’s at least icecream

    • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      196 months ago

      The ironic thing is Breyers ran commercials about how you could pronounce every ingredient in their ice cream. They had like a 10 year old read their ingredient list vs. competitors.

      But when they got bought out by Unilever, quality went downhill fast

    • @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      56 months ago

      Honestly I took a pretty long hiatus from sweets/ice cream.

      But now that I have a kid who wants to try things, I am buying it occasionally again. I have been disturbed by most of what I have tried recently. Only have had good luck with small overpriced premium labeled products.

      Will definitely look at Haagen as it seems to be everywhere.

  • @litchralee@sh.itjust.works
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    56 months ago

    As there may be regional differences, you might want to specify your area. For example, ice cream in the UK doesn’t have to meet the same requirements as in the USA, so oddities like cheap ice cream made with no dairy or cream is possible, using vegetable oil instead. Evan Edinger has a video on UK ice cream in particular: https://youtu.be/CfM7yZD0PlE

    • smokebuddy [he/him]
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      116 months ago

      In the USA/Canada the cheapo ice cream is labeled “frozen dairy dessert”, instead of “ice cream”.

    • @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      36 months ago

      I am from the US and I first noticed it a long time ago with certain novelty type ice cream products. Then eventually it seemed like some of the cheaper brands changed to add whatever softening thing to it. Now it seems like almost all brands have it, even regional brands known for their quality seem to be the same.

      I almost remember it was advertised by the regional brand Friendly’s as “creamy”, and you could buy other flavors and avoid it… but now it’s all seems to be like that.

      Also, they just don’t really seem to freezer burn nearly as bad, which is nice… if you liked the product in the first place.

  • @ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    Changed with ice cream in general? No. But there are things that have been possible to add to ice cream for a while that do what you describe. It could be that you’re just starting to notice, you shifted brands, or the brand you liked shifted formulations.

    Many people dislike the things that get added to ice cream, and so there are definitely brands out there that don’t include those things.
    In my opinion the worst of the additives is not nearly as bad as a lot of people would make them out to be.

    In the broadest sense possible ice cream is sugar, fat, water and thickener where the fat has been cooled to a solid and allowed to just start to re-form into a lump, the ice hasn’t been allowed to form crystals big enough to notice, and the thickener and sugars glue the fat and ice together such that they trap miniature air bubbles.
    Some people insist that the fat and thickener have to come from cow milk in the form of milk fat and milk proteins, but that’s a bit pedantic for my tastes.

    The easiest way to cheap out on ice cream is to add a lot more air. Since we sell it based on volume, if we churn more air into it we get more ice cream to sell for the same quantity of ingredients, and the only effect is that the ice cream is lighter, softer and fluffier.
    There’s a legal maximum to how much air you can mix in though.

    The next hurdle you run into is that milk proteins are actually kinda shit at keeping those air bubbles trapped. Adding things like guar gum or carrageenan will make it much gloopier and hold those air bubbles better.
    This makes the ice cream last longer in a warehouse without the bubbles getting out and leaving your ice cream as a brick.

    Next is rampant ice crystal spread, which can turn the ice cream into a brick in the warehouse. This can be slowed down using something called methylcellulose. It’s basically processed plant fiber ground into a powder. It’s also used in pills as the inert binder, and as a dietary fiber source.
    It’s popular because is known to be safe and inert, it’s very cheap, it prevents ice crystal formation, and it has the fun quirk of getting thicker as it warms, for the added property of keeping your ice cream fluffy and areated as it warms up on your drive home.

    Finally, you can tweak the fat blend. This one isn’t as common because milk fat is already insanely cheap since we subsidize the hell out of the dairy industry.
    Changing the blend to use fats that are solid at higher temperatures does have utility for things you expect to be eaten slower, at higher temperatures, or if you want parents to not be mad that your ice cream makes kids extra sticky.

    By far the biggest way that I’ve cream will save costs is by putting as much air in it as possible. It lets them sell you less in the same size box for the same price.
    It’s a case where shrinkflation means making things bigger, which is fun.

    The brands that didn’t take that route invariably rebranded as “premium” ice creams, so they can charge more for the same thing without raising consumer ire.

      • @ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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        56 months ago

        What? No, I just like making ice cream and I research my hobbies. Why would you think I hate dairy?
        Closest I get is thinking that it’s silly to insist that something like oat milk ice cream isn’t ice cream.

  • @jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works
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    36 months ago

    I’ve found that most generic store brand ice creams are high quality. Double check the label to make sure it actually says “ice cream” and not “frozen dairy dessert” or something. Ice cream is a regulated term and requires a minimum percentage of buttermilk to be called such.

    • Biskii
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      36 months ago

      Thank you, I knew I had seen this question before

  • @iMastari@lemmy.world
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    166 months ago

    Make sure the words Ice Cream are on the container, otherwise it is only a frozen dairy dessert. You will be surprised how many are not really ice cream.

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    More fillers, less milk, less actual sugar, and no egg.

    A trick I learned how to find better quality ice cream is to compare the weights on same liquid ounce packages. The one that weighs more will be the one with more real food ingredients and less artificial shit like fillers, emulsifiers, flavors and other additives.

    Price can also be an indicator; cheap ice cream is almost always crappy ice cream.

    • @Venator@lemmy.nz
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      46 months ago

      They also are just always trying to figure out how to trap more air in the ice cream, so that reduces the weight too.

      • RedEye FlightControl
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        36 months ago

        This is called overrun and is the main way you get shorted on product. More overrun means a creamier feeling product, but it also means you get less. So there’s that.

  • @DjMeas@lemm.ee
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    This reminds me of this ice cream I used to buy as a kid called the Snow Storm. I’ve eaten it over the years and one day the packaging slightly changed with a new emblem that stated now made with real ice cream. That’s when I started questioning all ice creams. Nowadays I’m more aware of ice cream as opposed to a frozen dessert or treat which a lot of “ice creams” now have on their packaging here at least in the US.

  • WashedOver
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    There are social media videos I seen where the cheaper brands of ice cream no longer melt, even after days of sitting on the counter. Same for the cheap ice cream sandwiches. Days and they don’t lose their shape.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to find out they no longer need refrigeration beyond the preference of enjoying it cold versus warm.

    Many parts of the EU often has North American travellers amazed how well they feel while eating *there during their vacations and how awful they feel when coming back to the north American diet. What’s a few chemicals many will say.

    It just seems everything from bread to pasta, dairy, meat, desserts etc doesn’t seem to make you feel as awful as north American food can.

    I love *Haagen Dazs vanilla bean ice cream. It’s not the cheapest but it’s one of the cleanest I can find among the big brands. Walmart etc usually has it the cheapest.

  • plz1
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    436 months ago

    One thing most have done is incorporate more air, as part of shrinkflation. That makes it more soft because it’s less actual product.

  • @TheBraveSirRobbin@lemmy.world
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    -46 months ago

    No, but that’s also just after I lost my sweet tooth so you’re probably asking the wrong person here. If you’d asked me a decade earlier I’d probably have a much more cromulent answer

  • @EtherWhack@lemmy.world
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    196 months ago

    I’m more annoyed with the shrinkflation of increasing the aeration and how almost every brand shrunk their standard size from 1.75qt to 1.5qt (1656mL to 1420mL)

    Umpqua was the last holdout in my area before they caved.

    • @burrito@sh.itjust.works
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      And the 1.75 qt was from a previous shrinkflation from the 2 qt size that used to be standard. I just quit buying ice cream because I’m tired of the BS.