I’m guessing Trump’s plan to end the war is “Back Russia and help Putin crush Ukraine.” Because (much like Trump’s own sycophants) he doesn’t realize that he’ll the first under the bus when his master no longer needs him.
Trump’s plan is to end support for Ukraine.
Like the far right in my country before the elections “We have the solution to fix the economy, vote for us” - without of course saying what they’re going to do.
Unfortunately, majority of people believed them
Populism works, people like to vote for someone that says what they want to listen even if it’s obvious that they’re not going to do that
Generally their playbook is open, it just doesn’t work. Their strategy is to let rich people do whatever they want and hoard as much wealth as they can, and that prosperity obviously will trickle down to everyone.
However when taxes are relatively higher on the rich and regulations do things like punish them for poisoning a water source, they spend their resources gaslighting the populace into thinking economy is just terrible and if your personal experience does not bear that out, well your just lucky and you’ll be out on the streets in a few months unless you vote right.
His plan is to tell Ukraine to stop fighting and just let it happen.
Just like he tells underaged girls.
And when Putin asks Trump to accept the end of Ukraine and no longer accept the Ukrainian language as separate from Russian, he will immediately do some executive orders.
Ha ha “asks”.
Everyone knows this, but it’s difficult to point out how dogshit Trump’s “plan” is if he refuses to state what his actual plan is.
Did he say he had a plan? I thought he said he could end the war.
If it’s good enough for the woman he rapes it’s good enough for Ukraine.
I’ve been digging into the whole rape thing, correct me if I’m wrong but it looks a lot like a smear campaign than anything else, that is which to say, there is zero evidence he did this and yet the mainstream media has been instructed to go hard with it lately to perhaps persuade the public to vote against him… thoughts?
It’s virtually impossible to smear Trump, because what could you come to with that’s worse than the truth?
He’s been on Epsteins plane 7 times. He was his friend.
Trump also knew Epstein liked “younger girls”.
It’s all in court documents
You have been corrected because you are very obviously wrong. Are you going to integrate this correction into your espoused views going forward or are you just going to repeat the same brain dead bullshit again and again?
Angry vitriol to a stranger on the internet for holding a opposing view, Let it all out there buddy!
By “digging into” do you mean “reading about it on truth social”? Because that is the only way in which someone might look into this situation and conclude trump isn’t guilty
I use twitter because it has the community notes thing and tends to allow both sides of the spectrum to state their views
A civil court conviction seems like enough for me
“As the court explained in its recent decision denying Mr Trump’s motion for a new trial on damages and other relief [in the New York case] … based on all of the evidence at trial and the jury’s verdict as a whole, the jury’s finding that Mr Trump ‘sexually abused’ Ms Carroll implicitly determined that he forcibly penetrated her digitally – in other words, that Mr. Trump, in fact, did ‘rape’ Ms. Carroll as that term commonly is used and understood in contexts outside of the New York penal law.” - Lewis A. Kaplan: Senior Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.
Am I reading this right that it’s because a civil decision by jury implies rape?
Pretty much, except it may be more appropriate to replace “implies” with “determined there was sufficient evidence to conclude”
Listen, I’m not a lawyer, I’m not trying to say I am.
It’s widely understood that civil litigation is held to a lower level of scrutiny than criminal proceedings are.
It’s widely accepted that jury trials are more prone to error than other types of hearings.
The legal meaning of the word “implicit” in that sentence is something close to “we didn’t ask the jury about this, but something they did rule on could be interpreted as implying it”.
I’m not making an excuse for trump or normalizing rape when I say the following:
That is paper fucking thin.
thoughts?
Ever the optimist I see
This is really not that hard, its to negotiate peace with the main part being that Ukraine will never join nato. Its almost like we could have totally avoided hundreds of thousands of dead people if our foreign policy didnt suck so bad.
Russia doesn’t get to dictate what sovereign nations do. They can fuck off back to their own country, that would put an immediate stop to the war.
Thats true, but what if we had listened to them and prevented hundreds of thousands of dead people? Why would that have been bad?
What if they had listened to us and not fucking invaded a sovereign nation? Why would that have been bad?
Moreover, surrendering whatever Russia sticks a flag in is appeasement nonsense. We’ve already seen this strategy before WWII: *oh, Germany will be OK if we just cede Czechoslovakia. Oh, Germany won’t attack if we cede Alsace-Lorraine…" An aggressive power like Russia, who already tried to annex large portions of another sovereign nation in 2008 (they invaded Georgia and got their shit kicked in because they tried the whole “three day thunder run” strategy), almost certainly will not stop if you just “give them what they want”. Eventually, they’ll want more, and more, and more, and you wind up surrendering slice after slice after slice of your country.
So then nato gets to constantly aggress on them and they cant do anything? And then you are shocked that they invaded.
“Aggress on them” by existing on their border? This is apologist and appeasement nonsense. Russia’s rights end at their borders.
Except that the cuban missle crises shows the US completely disagrees (unless it is convenient at that moment). Do you not see how this war was 100% avoidable if nato did not cross the directly drawn line?
Comparing them to our imperialist actions isn’t the brilliant argument that you think it is.
At any rate, NATO has never offered membership to Ukraine — they’ve been explicitly told their corruption issues were a non-starter.
And, of course, Ukraine only started those talks following Russia invading Crimea in 2014. Again, Russia is the clear aggressor here. Get real.
Putin should have no reason to give a rat’s ass if any country is in NATO, unless he plans on invading it.
They correctly feel that nato is an anti soviet/russian union. Why should they not be concerned about it getting on their border?
What is NATO doing to interfere with Russia’s domestic operations and sovereignty? Ukraine is not Russia, so Russia should have no say in the matter just because they’re next to each other.
Same thing would apply if Ukraine were to invade Russia. Ukraine would have no business doing so.
Putting arms near their border… This has been a known problem since the cuban missle crisis.
I’m also curious how annexing a country and extending your borders to countries already in NATO solves that problem?
And what history does NATO have of using their arms for offensive purposes, rather than defense?
A really big history… Take a peak at what countries are in nato and realize they have a long history of being directly in conflict with Russia/Soviet Union.
You mean like being a part of the USSR and wanting nothing to do with them?
I believe hes already said he would pull all US aid out and let russia have them
I think trump’s plan is Ukraine = Russia, then master Vlad will be happy.
Sell Ukraine for Russian golf resorts
His plan is sucking his master Putin’s cock!
He will suck Putin’s dick so hard that Russia will learn to respect the US again and never dare to start another war
Oh you are one of these, bye.
Remember when Trump said he would get rid of the ACA and they had a plan to replace it? But he never had a plan and eventually said “who knew healthcare was so complicated?” (Everybody knew it was complicated.) This is the exact same thing.
Only things he likes more than himself are underage girls.
if trump was president in 1940 ww2 would have never happened. Also ww1 for 1914. and civil war for 1861. If trump was president before we would all live in solid gold houses and drive rocket cars with zero pollution
Everyone is saying his plan is to give Ukraine to Russia, but his actual plan is to try to give all of Europe to Russia by pulling out of NATO.
The Ukraine War would end within a week without US support. It would take a Trump admin doing literally nothing for the war to end. That’s his plan. To do nothing.
USA aid is very important to Ukraine, but even without it they would continue fighting. Ukraine has been without USA material aid for months already in the past, when the republican party was blocking it. And as it turned out, Ukraine sustained higher casualties and had less offensive power than with USA aid, but they were never close to folding.
Ukrainians + their supporting neighbours are very motivated to not be occupied by Russia, so they’re not going to just give up if Putin’s stooges come to power in the USA.
There’s also the fact that a hypothetical end to US aid wouldn’t end EU aid. It’s definitely not on the same scale as the US due to our much smaller military sector, but that’d likely change in the event of a US shut-down of aid.
In my mind, the most likely results would be:
Short-term: Very dangerous period for Ukraine, they lose some ground, lots of men (similar to the last time they had a crippling artillery shell shortage).
Medium-term: EU military sector slowly ramps up to meet demand, as about 3/4 of central & eastern EU considers this an existential war that cannot be lost at any cost.
Long-term: After the war is over (however many more years that takes), Russia finally negotiates some kind of ceasefire where they can save some face internally and brag about how they “Denazified” Ukraine while going home and accomplishing nothing, EU is much more self-sufficient and therefore buys less from the US, and they aren’t seen as a trust-worthy ally militarily anymore. Even if on paper most EU members are still in NATO, they consider the security guarantees of the EU as much more important and serious.
Heck, Trump declared Canada, a strategic risk during his s presidency. Just to stop steel imports. No one can consider the USA a reliable ally as long as Maga is around.
Crippling russian economy might lead to yo a coup, putins death or just his health declining can also lead to instability which can lead to a coup too etc. A soft coup some years down the line for example.
Occupying a country that size doesn’t take a mere week. So no, it won’t.
Trump doesn’t have one.
Trump will throw Ukraine under the bus.
Lol seriously. Doesn’t anyone remember why he was impeached? Come on.
Which time?
Edit: oh dammit. I now see someone else already made this joke. Ok, to make it up to you, I’ll tell a different joke.
So a woman in her Chicago high rise apartment was beating a rug with a broom on her balcony. Suddenly a big burst of wind blew her over the railing.
Now she’s falling from the 30th floor.
A man on the 25th floor sees this, catches her, and says “Wow, it must be my lucky day! A beautiful woman falls out of the sky and into my arms! Tell me young miss, do you suck dick?”
Outraged by this she screams “NO I DON’T SUCK DICK!!!”
So he drops her.
A man on the 20th floor sees her falling, and catches her. He says: Wow, it must be my lucky day! A beautiful woman falls out of the sky and into my arms! Tell me young miss, would you be willing to fuck me?"
Insulted by the idea she screams “NO I DON’T FUCK STRANGERS!!!”
So he drops her.
As she’s falling, she realizes she’s going to die, and in her final moments she prays. “Please god, just let ONE more person catch me! I promise to do any revolting thing they ask!”
And on the 15th floor, a woman catches her. Before her rescuer can say a word, the woman screams “I SUCK! I FUCK! I’LL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT!!!”
Revolted by this, the woman holding her says “Slut!”
And drops her.
Heh
Which time? (Sorry, couldn’t help myself. I need the small joys. )
I like the jib of your cut, son.
Jib (if not typo). Not bc I’m picking on you but bc I love you and don’t want it happening at the wrong moment and fucking your life.
Thank you, yeah it was a typo
His plan will be to “give Putin everything he wants”
And then he’ll be like “aren’t I the greatest negotiator?!?”
The Art of the Squeal
Absofuckinglutely.
Trump has got to be among the biggest narcissists alive.
And he’s teaching others how to be one too
Given how fat he is, that is probably true in multiple ways
True but he does have the smallest hands
His plan is to hand you over to putin on a silver platter, for free.
“Our government has a [flexible] policy not to capitulate to [the oligarch that owns my debt and may, possibly have some lewd photos] demands.” - Trump quoting Patron Saint of Neoliberalism, Golden Idol of the GOP, Ronald Wilson Regan
Given their track records, maybe we shouldn’t vote anyone with the name Wilson in their name to the highest office anymore…
