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Gee, he can’t pay for his business fraud judgments with his sneaker fraud or his nft trading card fraud?
What about all the bribes he illegally and treasonously accepted by premiers of hostile countries?
Make him sell off his properties. Turn mar-a-lago into an immigration center
Haha, this is a great idea.
Yesss!
Also every immigrant gets their own golf tournament where they’re the only contestant so they win by default.
That would make Trump’s win just one of many. I’m certain he would dislike that.
I missed the sneaker thing, what’s that all about?
Dumps showed up at a sneaker convention a few days after receiving his 454-million dollar civil fraud judgment with some boxes of gold sneakers that cost $399 a pair in a typically transparent ploy to cover his costs.
Allegedly, his 1000 "never surrender high tops sold out, though he hasn’t paid any of that sentence yet and the thousand available pairs would cover less than .1% of his fines for that single judgment.
Also, a lot of people booed him when he showed up at the convention.
Fox hosts notably thought this was a great way for trump to be "connecting with Black America. Because they’re into sneakers, they love sneakers. This is a big deal. Certainly in the inner city.”
Is Sneaker culture racial? I thought all kinds of weirdos were in to shoes 🤣
Haha, you got it right, sneakerheads are all over. Fox is racial.
@WaxiestSteam69 @18_24_61_b_17_17_4
My favorite part of the story is when they find him stiff on the toilet and then dress him in these shoes before the weekend at bernie parade.
What the fuck.
It’s a front for laundering him money to pay for his legal fees. Nobody will ever purchase those shoes to wear them. They’re going to sit and rot away in a Russian warehouse somewhere.
If only he hadn’t publicly slandered the same person twice more after successfully being sued the first time.
Sadly he posted bond on E. Jean Carol’s settlement so she won’t see a dime for years as it goes through appeals
On the first one, yes. This is the second one, that he’s failed to post bond for, and won’t be allowed to appeal unless he can.
The third was videotaped as he walked out of the verdict on the second.
He’s trying to get his frequent slanderers card punched enough to get the tenth slander for free.
I’m happy for him to repeat the mistakes we know he can be held liable for.
Oh no, he will have to sell the things he inflatated the price for illegally at actual market price.
Below, hopefully.
Now even our Gloriously Orange Saviour’s lawyers are spouting FAKE NEWS! Bunch of LINOs!
There’s no bond! There’s no judgement! Some very smart folks are saying there may not even be a legal system! Have you ever actually SEEN a judge?
Fear not, our Incredibly Patriotic and Stable Genius is still running the show from Truthy Social.
Ok, hopefully that’s everyone inoculated.
I need innoculation against Fucker Carlson please.
I think that inoculation caused me to become magnetic.
Quick, take a shower!
Can’t he sell platinum Trump steaks?
Russia won’t give him platinum, maybe depleted uranium or plutonium though.
Polonium might be more appropriate in this case, however.
The fact that no bond companies would accept real property as a collateral for the bond and only liquid or easily liquified assets points to the properties being leveraged to the hilt. If he ends up having to pay even a portion of this and has to start selling properties we should see a true picture of his financial status.
Additionally, this judgment is for his civil fraud trial. Where he was found liable for inflating the value of his properties in order to obtain loans against them.
Given that, I can understand a general reluctance to loan against the value of his properties.
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Imagine if he wins the election and is flat broke. He’ll auction off everything the US owns in exchange for a cut or finder’s fee. And let’s not pretend that the emoluments clause actually applies to any of elected leaders.
I think the reason it was such an issue with Trump is I can’t think of another president that had the infrastructure (i.e. his hotels) to make revenue via emoluments.
Carter was a peanut farmer and those peanuts were sold internationally. He sold the farm before being elected so as not to be in violation of the emoluments clause.
Didn’t W divest a bunch of stuff and setup a blind trust for the same reason. And if I’m remembering correctly didn’t the peanut farm had been Carter’s family for a while so he gave up something that meant something more than money.
Every president save Trump in modern times has had various assets and investments, and they have all put them in blind trusts during their terms.
Just setting the record straight. Carter put his farm in a blind trust. And I agree that Trump isn’t fit to clean Carter’s outhouse
We don’t have to imagine too hard here. The fact that he’s even able to run for president again is a travesty of justice.
What makes it worst is that he’ll get millions of people to vote for him
Tens of millions, even.
So if he falls to make bond and the state starts seizing assets, how does that work, exactly? They auction it to pay the lawsuit? What if Trump gets a bite on selling a property intending to make bond but it’s a big real estate transaction and that takes time? Will he be allowed to finish the sale before the state seizes assets?
They’d be best to sieze and sell the assets independent of Trump. Chances are he will sell stuff to certain people with Slavic accents, and then we’ll have a potential president even further beholden to enemies of the state, which is generally considered sub-optimal.
I’m wondering what priority the state has over existing lienholders. If State has priority, then some banks may be about to get hosed.
Doubtful. That would penalise the banks, which is a no-no, economically speaking.
They can force sale but the banks get first cut.
Then given how leveraged the properties likely are, a bunch of them will have to be sold to make the 500 mil.
The government people who are in charge of collecting the dough from this judgment will be wise to the possibility that he may not have a bonafide buyer and that he’s just fluffing if he says a deal is about to go through.
Any buyer will know that he’s a motivated seller so the offers aren’t going to be all that great.
When the government seizes banks that are about to fail, usually they seem to find qualified buyers privately and the deal is over within days.
I have a feeling that because Trump has allowed things to get to this point, the government is less interested in selling at the highest price possible and instead will take any offer that settles the debt.
He won’t. I just can’t imagine he’s not going to find some bad actor to step in before that happens. Possibly SA.
some bad actor to step in before that happens. Possibly SA.
Shohreh Aghdashloo is one of the finest actors of our time. You shut your damn mouth.
Edit: Sorry, I just figured out you meant South America. Yeah, I hate that country, too…buncha jerks.
Why would sa make a deal with him? It would have to be secret and there’s zero chance he would abide by it later. If he wins and they kill him its a war. If he loses they’ve bought nothing anyway…
Something Awful is still a thing?
Its 4chan now. Saudia Arabia for those who might actually look here for an answer.
I’m late, but better late than never!
I wasn’t sure it would happen, but I hoped.
Lock him up
As much as I want Trump to be locked up, it would have to be for one of his multiple criminal indictments. Locking people up for not being able to pay fines is basically recreating debtors prisons and is hugely unfair to poor people.
That’s already the case for everyone else, let’s make it apply to the biggest piece of garbage in the world.
Sort of. The Supreme Court said you cannot be jailed for not being able to pay a fine, only for willingly not paying a fine that you can afford to pay. However, it is up to a judge’s discretion as to whether a person can afford a fine or not.
In this case, Trump has a lot of properties he can sell to pay a fine.
The aggression in Liotta’s laugher makes it the most appropriate gif.
Side note, i recently found out the guy Bill is playing is Matthew Perry’s step dad.
Nothing is ever black and white. This is just a stalling tactic or another attempt to reduce the penalty or mitigate the situation until he’s past voting time.
If he wins he’ll just wheel and deal to get others to pay for favors. He’s not banking on losing.
Yeah, I don’t want to be defeatist but he has weaseled out of every single consequence so far.
I’ll believe the consequences when they actually happen. And when they do… Oh boy… I might soil my pants!
Consequences are for the poor and unpopular. The legal system is just there to protect the wealthy owners, it’s not there to deliver justice.
Trump and his company need to post a bond for the full amount by next week in order to stop New York Attorney General Letitia James from being able to collect while he appeals.
He doesn’t have the cash to pay, so when NY collects, they can start forcing sales on his property.
If he gets the bond, then it just sits there till after appeals. Which would prevent him from selling property he put up for bond, but he’d still own them.
If he misses that bond, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate
Maybe we should start an organization to buy his buildings as a Cooperative?
Back in the late '80s, Spy magazine had a plan to collect donations to purchase a condo in one of Trump’s buildings - which they were then going to donate to the outgoing president of the Industrial Workers of the World to retire in.
Thanks for the summary, Zap!
Leticia James is a bad ass who painted this guy into a corner. I love it.
I’ve heard her referred to as 'tish James, which somehow makes her sound more bad ass.
He’s got to be fuming. He’s managed to go 75 years without ever being held accountable by anyone for anything. And now it’s happening. He’ll drain the RNC by August.
Does the Rnc have $400 million on hand to pay his for him?
No
$8 Million in cash on hand at the start of 2024 per FEC filings. So no.
Oh man that feels so low for the peak of election season. I know that has already been reported but damn
Oh no. /s
Trump better get to flipping those crusty shoes. 👍🏾
