As a millennial, I’m proud. Every generation should strive to be better than the last.

the way they alienate gen z as being “conditioned” to like social feedback on ticktok is really denigrating to me. As if every other generation was not conditioned to believe certain social taboos, mores and practices. Same old “young kids don’t know shit” rhetoric. Which viewers at home will just ingest w/o any sort of critical thought process.

Also how quickly they can invent ‘trends’ we should be fearful of simply because some middle-aged reporter watched a couple similar videos online. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go eat some tide pods before my scheduled game of knockout.

I love Gen Z, which is why I’m so upset that the dumb fucks are using TikTok.

I see it plenty without the media stoking it. Here on Lemmy, etc.

It’s the same dumb tribalism as always, often backed up by some real data or trends (that tend to get twisted)

No, not every “boomer” is spoiled and ruining America, and 75% of the people you call boomers aren’t even boomers. Not every Gen Z is lazy and entitled and scrolling phones all day. Etc.

I don’t care what the source is, if there’s a Gen [insert whatever] or Millennials might be to blame for [insert whatever] I’m already at a -10 on the trust meter right out the gate.

If the majority do it, it can no longer be extreme.

I’m enjoying the generational divide coming from Gen-Z.

Previous generations wanting to avoiding “burning bridges” only served corporate interests.

Workers need stop fearing our corporate overlords. We out number them.

They’ve manipulated the political process to shattered the social contract and must be held accountable.

I’m still partial to dragging them into the street since it worked quite well a century but this is a good step towards lighting that powder keg.

Generally, society doesn’t reward people that engage in behaviors that some may see as a betrayal.

The gall to speak like that of somebody publicizing the way one of their contacts with equal sides was terminated. Not even “mutual betrayal”, LOL.

It sucks when people think an organization has more rights than a person. If there’s a contract between two, then they are on the same level.

I was watching Wendover’s billionaire social calendar last night. They have ships whose sole purpose is to transport their yachts from the Mediterranean to the Caribbean so they don’t have to deal with actual transoceanic sailing. Like they literally load the yacht onto the ship like a big cargo rig.

CBS News. Viacom. I wonder who benefits from making these threats against these kids… hmmm

Not even Millennials see action against your employer as ‘betrayal’. Company loyalty is dead, and this professor is out of touch.

risk facing repercussions, such as violating severance agreements

oh no, I won’t get dick shit, which is exactly what I was going to get anyway. What a gigantic shame

Yeah most people probably already had the double edged sword in their teeth. Shitty professor is out of touch.

I think the point is for you to meditate on that fact.

I’ve also been concerned about negative outcomes for people based on the videos I’ve heard about and the one I saw posted before, but that’s what makes them so brave. The more they do it and the more such videos are normalized, the less harsh companies can be in retaliation.

Management being assholes is not as much a generational thing (at least, not as much as it seems) as the nature of what corporations expect of managers. The few amazing managers who somehow remain human while doing their job, who are good mentors, etc., are outliers.

I agree with the article. Gen Z are more open to sharing their life with the world. I wouldn’t say early generations just swallowed the bullshit. They just didn’t have a platform to express it to the masses. In the 70s or 80s if you got fired, maybe you reacted the same way, demanding a reason and expressing your frustration. But the only people who witnessed that, were the ones in the room and later on your buddies when you told them the story.

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They’re literally following a TikTok Trend. They’re submerged deep into bullshit and eating it up.

The Bullshit from decades ago was easier to swallow because at least people had a chance to make money and have a decent job while also paying a bit less for things like food, shelter or some luxuries.

Now people have no choice … they get paid less, they have no security and they have to pay more for food and shelter.

People were always aware of the bullshit … in the past we could put up with it because we could afford it … now people can’t.

If you could ask for early retirement now then they would get power that much quicker

Started with Gen X, which is why the baby boomers retiring is creating such a desperate demographic crisis. Nobody wants to buy into such an obviously corrupt system, which has rewarded every consecutive generation with less and less compensation despite the abundantly obvious massive advances in productivity. People are realizing that most of their work is not at all about generating value, but instead is all about occupying their time and energy in an apparent attempt to reduce competition.

You don’t need to wait for them to get political power, start organizing a union and get that toxic shit out of your workplace now

thats everyone at their age.

the difference is they can broadcast it into the world now.

Have you seen more than the one video floating around? Cuz I’ve only seen the one, could use some more for the spank bank.

Millennial / Gen X cusp here. I feel like this really started with my generation. Many people no longer look for a job, they look for a job that allows them to make the world a slightly better place. Many of us have had that drilled into our heads from childhood.

Companies know this, so that’s what they sell when they’re hiring. And when you combine that with the cognitive bias for people wanting to do good through their work, this is the result.

I think most people make this mistake when first entering the workforce though, right? I know I did. Now, I get called pessimistic and cynical. But, I’ve got three decades of experience at various levels of company. With all that experience, I’d prefer to call myself a realist.

Bet that person is never loyal again. Live and learn.

I worked at Disney+ in IT for 5 years, they gave me a yearly incentive to stay with them, bonuses, and my 5 years of service pin… and then laid me off a month later.

This is effectively the only tool we will ever have against them, and we should use it before too much of the labor force is converted and automated, and the remaining employed shut up out of fear.

A company like Microsoft worth 3 trillion dollars (with a T), who spends billions to acquire another business in a strategic move, should not be allowed to dump the burden on the thousands of people they let go afterwards, just so the books look good.

They pull billions out of the company in profit, and then claim the company is broke and needs to distribute some losses socially. It’s completely insane that we just allow this to happen in mass. I’m lucky I can choose my companies and I don’t touch the big big corporations so it doesn’t affect me, but we need to do something collectively fast.

I guess but companies will probably just counter by laying people off by text.

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Not because they recorded it, though that’s bad, but because they did something idiotic to follow a trend. I don’t need that energy on my team.

If I was a hiring manager and saw a video like this from a prospective employee I would just throw their application straight in the garbage.

You probably wouldn’t be a hiring manager very long with that attitude. I don’t get the appeal either, but I don’t do tiktok so. Just from the linked piece, it sounds like it’s becoming increasingly common.

Quite a leap to posting private company details online. Where are those stored by the way? Office 365? SharePoint? The cloud?..

I hope that these videos encourage others to leave, get their bag, or not apply to companies that employ shady at best firing policies. If I saw a person standing up for themselves in a place where corporate culture squashes out hope and individuality, I’d be more likely to hire them if my corporate culture actually matched the vibe of the person recording themselves getting fired.

I get both sides of the argument here. I think we need to have this big reaction because companies have held so much power over employees for so long - I’ll avoid ranting about worker-owned cooperatives here - but the past few years I’ve surprised myself by moving into a bit of a “slippery slope” camp with these things. Not to say it shouldn’t happen, but that we need to be prepared for the follow-up.

Hopefully related example, in education: There were some really big push backs recently where I am over bad treatment of the students in highschool, all legit. The school board ignored it for a long time, it got bad, they finally took it seriously. Then they overcorrected and stopped believing teachers at all and started jumping straight to firing at almost any complaint. Then students started weaponizing complaints, and now teachers are getting fired for trying to enforce deadlines and for giving low marks because students are complaining about how deadlines, grades, and meeting grading requirements are detrimental to mental health and well-being, and now there are a bunch of these students from this board in my university classes failing hard and filing complaints about courses being too difficult and other things despite them having glowing reviews just a few years prior.

I guess what I’m getting at: I think it’s fair for someone to choose not to hire people like this because it’s possible that the people willing to stand up and make an important fuss over these things might not know where the line stands between a worthwhile complaint and a non-worthwhile one, and might make a company look badexternally even though it’s doing good internally, just not to someone new to the workforce’s expectations.

I also think it’s fair to go the opposite direction, because ultimately we need major change in the way companies/everything are structured that lead to these nasty layoffs and poor conditions and if someone does raise issues where there aren’t, hopefully we are prepared enough and in the right enough to take it seriously, but weather it and act in everyone’s best interests.

Of course you would as you wouldn’t want to hire someone that stands up for themselves. Seems you’d just want to hire punching bags aye.

If I was a hiring manager, I wouldn’t be looking at people’s social media because I only care what their expected compensation, experience, and/or education is. Everything else past their CV is irrelevant unless they need a security clearance or will be working in a sensitive environment.

The problem is half the time they are being laid off, but the company frames it as a firing so they can save money. Getting fired by your previous employer will destroy your job prospects far more directly than some video on social media that only a few percent of recruiters will ever even be aware of. It makes sense to take a unified stand against such a bullshit practice.

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If a company is firing you, fuck their “private company details.” You should have zero loyalty or obligation to an entity that’s potentially going to make you go hungry/homeless. Criminal disclosures will be covered by law already, so all you’re doing is slurping up the boot juice and perpetuating the culture of silence that allows companies and capital owners to pit workers against one another

Sounds like it is a good tactic for them to dodge future shitty employers

I’m a hiring manager. I have trouble even imagining the kind of person that would just throw a lead into the trash because of a recording of them getting fired. Who does that? What do you possibly have to gain by doing that? Because you have a lot to lose, especially if that candidate got far enough in the process for you to be researching their background. Nobody gets that far unless they are a very good fit.

Gen Z is also more compassionate than we were at that age, they know about things like consent and when someone is uncomfortable but not verbally expressing it. They also stabilize in the job market as they age up.

The housing market is fucked, economic mobility is fucked, the climate is fucked. They’ve already lost to the man, what else do they have to lose?

As a Gen-Xer whose been beaten into believing you can’t realistically “fight the man”, I fucking love the Gen-Z attitude.

Seriously. Give them hell Gen-Z!

The kids are alright!

1. The recent rise of sea shanties
2. Detailed instructions for operating abandoned Russian military vehicles
3. This

Just wait for the inevitable fakes to show up.

Every TikTok trend should make you cringe. They’re all aiding a hostile dictatorship.