Apologies for title spelling errors. Apparently the title box doesn’t arouse autocomplete or spell check.

Seriously. For my entire life I’ve been able to look at any random porn site and know I wasn’t going to see various things : children, rape, insest, scat, etc etc.

When the fuck did incest porn become acceptable? Let alone mainstream?

There’s not even an opinion to NOT see it. (but I’m given the option to not see gay porn)

Like. I don’t care that it exists. I’m not shaming anyone for being into it but

I DON’T WANT TO SEE IT ON MY FUCKING PORN LISTS

  • Drusas
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    931 year ago

    My guess is that it appeals to a sizable minority of people while at the same time not turning off the majority of people because they know it’s just actors who aren’t truly related.

    I prefer my porn not to have any story to it at all, but that doesn’t stop me from watching the stuff which hamfists a story into it. I just skip to what I want to see.

    • @surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      201 year ago

      I prefer my porn not to have any story to it at al

      I need at least three hours of complex plot to even get hard.

      I saw the extended Lord of the Rings in the theater. They had to replace my seat afterwards.

      • Captain Aggravated
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        31 year ago

        To quote John Carmack: “Story in a [video] game is like story in a porn movie. It’s expected to be there, but it’s not that important.” Said the technical guy behind DOOM.

    • @DrQuint@lemmy.world
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      31 year ago

      I guess this is why Cheating/NTR porn is also so regional in terms of popularity. Because how much it turns off others fluctuates and it lingers on the border.

        • @DrQuint@lemmy.world
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          21 year ago

          Netorare, Cuckholdery. Basically an entire branch of porn where the plot has one man watch “his” woman be taken by another man. It’s overdone in some circles and completely absent in others which makes me think there’s some degree of turnoff associated with it that is cultural.

    • AFK BRB Chocolate
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      371 year ago

      Yeah, I think it’s this. Scat porn, for comparison, turns off most people so having a bunch of it up on a main page is going to hurt traffic. I’m guessing there must have been some legal issue that turned all the incest porn into step incest porn, but regardless most people probably don’t care if a scene starts with someone calling the other person “step brother” or something. Some people probably actually prefer that. So the benefits outweigh the negatives for the sites.

      • @bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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        231 year ago

        I’m guessing there must have been some legal issue that turned all the incest porn into step incest porn

        I believe in some jurisdictions it’s illegal to depict nuclear incest in porn, even though it’s fictional.

        Also I would speculate that the actual fetish comes from the fact that a decent amount of people would have had a step-sibling added to their family during their adolescence, which could have influenced their fantasies and taboos. If you’re a 13 year old boy and suddenly there is a 14 year old girl living in your house that you aren’t blood-related to, it could easily lead to some weird fantasies popping into your head.

        • @GCanuck@lemmy.world
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          131 year ago

          AFAIK, it’s not the legality per se that keeps the actual incest off the provider, but that credit card companies won’t allow their cards to be used to pay for such services.

          But I’m just a regular pervert on the internet. I’m only parroting what I read online.

        • @Styxia@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          Not challenging just clarifying; Is your speculation extending to suggest that the larger demographic of porn consumers online are adolescents? Or more that the “step-*” joining the family set a longer term influence? (Or something else entirely…?)

  • @corus_kt@lemmy.world
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    Most vanilla kink

    From the view of the actors too - if you had to pick a kink to act in/start in, it would probably be this one. Not too extreme, not too niche, but spicy enough to attract attention. Doesn’t need extra props or locations, all you do is change the term you call each other by.

    • squiblet
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      41 year ago

      Can you specify what company you mean and provide a citation for the ‘what 12 year olds want to see’ part?

        • squiblet
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          31 year ago

          I see, so you summed it up poorly. This is also, you’re right, one of those bullshit right-wing hit job ‘journalism’ things where they edit the shit out of footage to make it fit the pre-existing agenda they’re trying to prove. Correct that people here wouldn’t take that seriously, since we’re not the target market for that kind of manipulative tripe.

          It’s also misleading to say that most porn sites are owned by one company. You could say that one company has majority market share of one type of site - streaming video.

    • Hegar
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      231 year ago

      Project Veritas style undercover report by a conservative outlet so no one here is going to believe or care about any of it

      So close to self-awareness!

  • @Mango@lemmy.world
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    -121 year ago

    Yeah, this is the same problem I have with ugly people seeking validation and the woke kids feeding them in the web pages where I’m trying to get my dick hard. Get your yuck out of my yum.

  • R0cket_M00se
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    381 year ago

    Because it’s the easiest way to fulfill a niche while doing absolutely nothing that requires effort.

    Content wise it’s the same as anything else, they just change the title and the actors say “step bro” like ten times in the intro and then it’s just normal porn.

  • @willya@lemmyf.uk
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    I’d say probably due to the divorce rates and large amount of blended families.

  • @JTskulk@lemmy.world
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    261 year ago

    Real talk: I found myself watching step family porn because it’s really good for some reason. I don’t give a shit about the story and skip past it. I don’t have any step siblings and don’t have any familial fantasies or anything weird. I just think the women that end up starring in these look hot. I honestly don’t know why.

    • BruceTwarzen
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      41 year ago

      I wonder if the whole step sibling porn only works for people without step siblings. Like when i was a horny teenager and talked to my horny teenager friends, a lot of them where only childs or had a brother and told me that having a sister would be so hot. No, it really isn’t there is less than 0 sexual tension of any shape or form in a normal brother/sister relationship.

    • Captain Aggravated
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      151 year ago

      I have a theory: The camerawork/cinematography is better.

      Historically, there’s been a divide between softcore and hardcore porn. Softcore porn generally features R or NC-17 rated nudity and some simulated sex acts with a lot of effort put into the cinematography to make sure the camera never goes crotchwards. These kinda rely on a suspension of disbelief, often bolstered with more of a story focus, some are basically soap operas.

      Hardcore porn on the other hand features genuine non-simulated sex acts by definition, and the producers seem to have an attitude of “if we’re going through the trouble to have real sex in our movies, by god’s cock ring we’re going to SHOW real sex in our movies.” So the camera ends up at all kinds of stupid angles - way low looking up, titled to one side to better fit tall humans onto the wide frame, or downright gynecological close-ups that go on for minutes at a time.

      The step-sibling genre on the other hand…these usually do feature genuine sex acts, but they’re playing to a kink that…isn’t visual. The aspect that makes this not a vanilla movie is the actress occasionally remembers to say the words “I can’t believe I’m fucking my step-brother.” So that pressure to zoom way into the crotchal region seems to be relieved. The camera stays upright at eye level across the room. Close-ups are few and far between or totally absent; the actors probably do that thing where they lean to the side to “show their work” but we don’t plunge in to get a good look at the wrinkles and razor burn. So what ends up on the screen is two people having sex rather than a penis going into various holes.

  • @notaviking@lemmy.world
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    I think step porn is so popular because it basically establishes a relationship beforehand, even though it is familial. This gives our guy or whatever proxy for the audience they use a preexisting relationship (creates a taboo and and a reason why they know each other), proximity and opportunities for interaction, no need to go to a bar or whatever (makes the script easy to explain why they are forced together in a situation.

    I think it makes creating porn easier since it quickly explains why these two or more people are around each other in a lonely house or hotel room (ease of filming venue), gives them a preexisting relationship with maybe hidden desire (no wooing or any modern prerequisites before meeting a potential sexual partner), it’s a bit taboo but easily ignored by the majority of the audience, and finally an established easy premise to follow and write with a lot of variation to the formula.

  • @SmuttyLad@lemmynsfw.com
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    21 year ago

    One of my favourite features on pornhub (probably exists on other sites too, but only found it there) is that you can actually exclude categories/tags.

  • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    641 year ago

    Usually the main difference between normal porn and “step-porn” is just the title of the video. Content stays exactly the same.

    • @guacupado@lemmy.world
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      31 year ago

      At this point I doubt people are actually searching it but that it’s become such a meme that they just throw it on the title.

      • @didnt_readit@lemmy.world
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        121 year ago

        I assume most “normal” people do watch it anyway which is why it’s all over every porn site. If only people into that fetish watched it and it hurt traffic they wouldn’t plaster it all over every front page…

          • Wow it really must just not be a thing then? You should really get in touch with some porn sites and let them know that no one is interested in watching most of their content.

            Alternatively, there’s always the possibility that they develop the type of content their analytics tell them is popular, and that you and your porn friend’s preferences are less normal than you had assumed.

      • @guacupado@lemmy.world
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        51 year ago

        People are probably just looking at the thumbnails. I think it’s safe to say most aren’t watching for the plot.

        • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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          What else is there?

          Meme Lover

          Danny D and Jasmine Webb’s Lovin That Porno Vibe

          I forget the title but Danny D has one where two guys narrate his life sports announcer style

          That Japanese one where males don’t exist but dicks just appear out of walls

          I don’t think anyone watched Spongeknob Squarenuts for the sex

          Difference between good and bad literotica is the rest of the story

  • southsamurai
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    241 year ago

    Supposedly, it was accidental.

    Early on, porn sites were less moderated, and thus more friendly to niche kinks.

    But this meant people randomly looking would run across those niche kinks, click on them because it’s effectively shock bait, which skewed views. The porn makers saw this increase in views, figured they hit a gold mine, and incest porn took off. As the internet got more moderated, the taboo kinda pushed regular incest to the side, with some sites outright banning it eventually. This left step-porn stuck in the dryer, and the effect spun out of control.

    Mind you, this is from some random article I read a few years ago, so it’s second hand and unsourced, so grain of salt, etc.

    That being said, it jibes with what I’ve seen over the years. I’ve never been a big porn user, but even a dilettante like me could see trends in what sites were showing up front. I wanna say the step-porn started showing up in otherwise unrelated searches maybe eight years ago? And it was visible as far back as something like 2005ish as something you’d run across on porn sites.

    Mind you, I don’t have any issues with step-porn or regular incest porn; it’s almost 100% fake anyway. I don’t kink shame, even with the really “gross” stuff like scat, as long as I don’t have to see it unintentionally. If it was real incest porn, I’d not want to see it, but as long as it’s consenting adults, I ain’t hating. Step-porn that’s real is just regular porn where the performers already knew each other well, it isn’t incest in the important ways.

    But, dude, that you’ve never run across any of the ugly stuff just shows how much the internet has changed. There was a time when just being in a non sex related chat room could expose you to some pretty bad stuff. Shit, I still can’t get some of the things I saw back in the very early internet days out of my head.

    You’d just be talking about random shit, maybe a movie or whatever, and a proto-troll would dump images of kids, or gore, or both, plus whatever else they had saved up. It took a while before videos could be done like that, and thanks be to the tech gods that there were better tools to reduce that kind of fucked up shit on a given chat. But you’d still get clips dumped in of things you can’t erase from your head.

    By the time commercial porn sites came along, they were able to limit the worst of it, and did. But before that, it was a risky thing to run searches that included some words that would pull hits from porn sites that were either unmoderated, or were intended to host the bad stuff. Ffs, there was a time when trying to figure out how to light a photo you intended to take of a kid was just horrifying.

    As much as I hate Google, they really did reduce that, then eliminate it to the point that it really isn’t possible to find such things on purpose, much less having it show up like that. Well, I assume so, anyway. Afaik, all that shit went underground, and you can actually search for the Nabokov novel without getting your eyes and soul tainted.

    Jfc, I really am glad y’all younger netizens didn’t have to go through that era.

    • speck
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      101 year ago

      This left step-porn stuck in the dryer, and the effect spun out of control.

      Love this line

    • DebatableRaccoon
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      Just to tack onto the ending sentiment. To anyone into the anime scene, be wary about sites like paheal. They still have basically no filtering (if any at all) so it’s very easy to encounter goro and other niche kinks that make a lot of people want to bleach their eyes. If you don’t know what goro is, don’t look it up because you most likely didn’t want to know in the first place.

      • Schadrach
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        so it’s very easy to encounter goro and other niche kinks that make a lot of people want to bleach their eyes.

        Once. Then you add the offending tag(s) to your blacklist or include -whatever in your searches. Sites like that are kind of extreme about thorough image tagging which is handy when there are things you strongly don’t want to see.