Wasted Weed: Canada’s Disposal of 3.7 Million Pounds of Cannabis Since 2018 Oversupply has been a real issue for the cannabis industry.
Hey send some of that oversupply to me, yeah, thanks.
I’ll do my part!
lol
Time to repurpose the land for growing real food rather than pollutants.
Actually hemp decontaminates the soil by removing toxic compounds.
And people just use it spew mind-altering substances into the air, causing it to affect even those who didn’t ask for it.
BTW, hemp can also be used for cooking. But they’d rather smoke it.
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it’s weed, not LSD.
And what do you smoke it for ?
Are you canadian? 🙊
Evening weather report: 14 degrees C, Smoke (Yes, smoke, not smog) Average AQI of over 400 and I’m pretty sure the sensors are in a better area than the residential one I live in. People filling the already crowded area with all kinds of smoke ranging from tobacco to whatever weeds they find to wet pieces of wood. There’s problematic gasses seeping into my room at ~0100 right when I’m getting comfortable while sleeping, makes me wake up with a headache. Result: Increased overall fatigue; Reduced ability to work; Reduced QOL.
I have a pretty good reason to have a problem with smokers. Automotive pollution stopped being a direct health hazard ever since laws for keeping the Catalytic Converters in working condition started being enforced.
P.S.: Forgot to say: Guess my location with this.
Oregon has way too much pot too. I’m starting to see signs for $20 ounces. Pretty soon they’ll be giving it away free with a fill-up.
Yes, I realize it’s illustrating how old I am to talk about fill-up freebees like it’s still the 1990s.
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totally!
Weirdly phrased title. The Canadian government has no role in throwing away product or setting the price, that falls on the businesses that manufacture and sell the weed.
hemp is king
What if I told you Canada was a place?
There are 20 sqdc in quebec. Trois-Rivieres, my hometown, has a single one which is ± 20 min away from my house while Montreal, which has 10x more people than my town has only 8 of them.
Im unsure about the black market in other town, but my coworker still grow 30-40 tree/yrs outside.
Shops are everywhere in BC. I have two within walking distance.
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fr i’m a low thc enjoyer. i’ll take a few kilos off their hands.
🫡 🫡 🫡
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It’s like the weed version of Iceland’s sheep
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Aren’t a lot of unused groceries used for other things though?
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I’m not familiar with Canadian healthcare but if cannabis can be prescribed then i don’t see why they couldn’t make medicine out of it.
They do. You can get capsules with properly dosed amounts of THC/CBD etc.
the problem is convincing the medical community in large that it’s a drug that has enough merit to be considered for larger amount of people. Right now, no insurance company will cover it. No Pharmacy stocks THC/CBD medication. And getting “medical” weed requires a lot of jumping through hoops that just aren’t worth it right now considering I can just go to the store and buy it retail anyways
Ricky LaFleur is probably pissed.
Ricky LaFleur
Export or stop making so much (or discount it, or give it away).
They could have free weed events for tourism. I’ve been meaning to drive up there.
They should’ve destroyed it by burning, a lot of people would come take a look
That’s a sin.
«Industry expert and consultant Farrell Miller notes that the majority of this discarded product was destroyed for being too old and having too little THC. “There is no demand for old and low-THC products, so manufacturers of finished products are not buying this biomass as inputs,” she said. “It’s likely low-quality material with no value. “As consumers become more savvy with packaging dates on dried cannabis products, this trend will only continue.”»
They claim nobody wants it
they claim it, but it’s just spin put on by the company. Any THC levels are usable in some fashion, even if not directly smok-able flower.
even 5% flower could be used to create potent extracts.
These are companies who bet big on production for international growth, and that never materialized. And now they’re stuck with production capabilities that aren’t profitable. Aurora Cannabis lost over $1 billion in 2022 over it’s misguided growth plans and killed itself.
Supply and demand. No one wants it for the price they’re charging.
I don’t think you understand that the bottom end of the weed market in Canada is literally $0 per giant ziplock bag of homegrown that your friend can’t possibly smoke all of.
People arent willing to pay anything for low quality weed because it literally grows on trees… 1lb per plant is a very modest yield for Southern / Eastern Ontario growing conditions and will yield ~1814g or ~5442 normal sized joints, ~15 / day, every single day of the year. And it literally takes no extra work than typical gardening until harvest season … There’s just no market for low quality weed.
Then it’s time to start selling 2 ziplock bags at $1. We’re fucking late stage capitalism, companies need to realize, just because they build it, doesn’t mean they get to charge whatever the fuck they want. If they can’t compete with your friend’s shitty leftover weed, then maybe they’re in the wrong business, because even McDonald’s can sell shitty fake meat burgers for $1.
I haven’t seen a 1$ burger at McDonald’s in almost 5 years.
That makes no sense. Low content strains are perfect for all sorts of concentrates.
There’s more than enough of that to go around.
Doesn’t make economic sense to process low value plants into low value extracts.
Not everyone wants a 85% THC extract with a minimal CBD profile.
It’s still more efficient with way less energy usage, wear and tear on your machines, and residue build up, to distill high potency strains into concentrates and then dilute that down to the desired potency, rather than chew through enormous amounts of plant matter to get to the same concentrate.
Yeah, any trim or whack weeds could easily be repurposed for concentrates. Theres probably more to it than just “nobody wants it”
The size of the market was vastly overestimated. Every pothead wanted a slice of the business, so they all started up companies thinking there was unlimited growth potential. It was rapidly saturated and now we’re in the collapse and consolidation phase, exacerbated by the higher interest rates and inflation.
Canada’s population is similar to California, but it’s producing weed enough for a country several times its size.
Plus the black market still exists, albeit in a small scope, due to price, quality, variety, or loyalty reasons.
Whats the overall legal status of cannabis in canada?
It’s legal all across Canada at the federal level. The provinces have the ability to regulate administrative aspects such as where it can be sold, who can sell it, how much it is taxed, where it can be grown, etc.
However, unlike the USA, criminal law is the same across the whole country. There are no provincial criminal codes. So, provinces have no ability to criminalize cannabis.
My state started up sales last year and I watched the prices drop a lot over the year. It’s mostly sold in eighths and the average eighth went from $40 to $20 for high quality products
This is exactly what happened in Oklahoma
And people from all around Oklahoma traveled there just for their low prices.
It’s cheaper and probably way easier to use higher potency cannabis
What’s more value than 100% if the product is considered worthless as flower?
Taking a write down for tax purposes versus trying to move crap product, just like any other industry.
So why is their hemp industry not thriving. They should be making fabrics and paper with it.
I think Hemp is a different species that has low amounts of thc.
Same species! The line between them is actually pretty blurry and some strains are inbetween. They’re just different general ‘types’ within the same species
Different “types” in horticulture are called variants, for future explanation reference.
Haha thanks!
I’m fairly certain hemp isn’t made from the flower, which is the part of the plant that is sold for weed consumption.
What they are throwing away is the flower. The part they would use to make hemp is already long gone.
In addition, in order to get useful fibers, plants are sown at a density of at least several hundred seeds per square meter. They stretch to 2-3 meters tall trying to win the race to the sunlight. Stalks of plants grown in the typical indoor grow way are only good as very low grade biomass for methane digestion or as chips that might serve in hemplime or hempcrete. An insignificant market so far as these technologies are still going through the regulatory processes to be used more widely.
There are effective dual cropping systems that can yield cannabinoids from flower and get useful fiber but it is not common yet either.
I’m fairly certain that it’s the same plant with less active cannabinoids. The gender doesn’t matter. They can use all of it.
Them discarding the flower doesn’t mean they arent using the hemp part.
I would imagine they seperate those almost immediately if not the moment it’s out of the ground. If they’re using a combine to harvest it, then that probably seperates it.
They should sell it for biomass fuel. :)
This was my first thought, too.
This just in, huffing your cars exhaust gets you H.I.G.H.
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Sounds like the price is too high. Stupid fucking government. How dare you pride yourself on high prices. Are you not trying to disrupt the illegal trade? Why the fuck are you using their numbers, retards? GEE WHY ISNT ANYBODY BUYING OUR GREEDY FUCKING OUNCES and man, you should see the fucking website. Doug ford can go fuck himself with a forklift.
Try this amazing philosophy: if you can make that much, but can’t sell that much, it’s cuz it ain’t worth that much not cuz nobody will buy it. Unless it’s, you know, shit. AND FURTHERMORE, since clearly the government is going to read this, you might want to doublecheck that quality control isn’t just taking the cheque and AFKing, cuz from this end that’s how it looks!
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There’s a lot of misinformation in this post, clearly based on emotion rather than the reality:
Sounds like the price is too high.
While this is true in some cases, most of these LP’s are producing flower that can be picked up for ~$100 an ounce. For Canadian Weed, that’s great. Especially considering on legalization it was closer to $400. Not a single dealer I used to use pre-legalization can match the price point of legal weed right now.
This is also a luxury product. Not a necessity. It will be priced where the market bears. The problem with our current over-supply is manufacturer driven. Producing more weed than Canada would consume, even if it was free for “business” reasons.
Stupid fucking government.
Government doesn’t set prices. Cannabis prices have actually bucked the inflationary trends and have gone down overall in the last couple years.
Are you not trying to disrupt the illegal trade?
The illegal trade isn’t going to be shut down overnight. Especially given that most places allow personal growing, so it’s going to happen with people selling to eachother. Even if it’s technically illegal. However, the illegal criminal organizations that used to thrive and require pot sales? Those are decimated and their involvement in the Cannabis trade is decreasing year after year: https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/trnsprnc/brfng-mtrls/prlmntry-bndrs/20200930/026/index-en.aspx
Why the fuck are you using their numbers, retards?
what? also really with the use of “retard”… really what are you. 12? Come on man. be an adult.
you should see the fucking website.
if you’re basing your entire purchasing / and angry rant above entirely on the ocs website for purchasing, you’re missing out 90% of the actual Cannabis market. Most sales are through retail. NOT online from the government. Yes the OCS is expensive as fuck. It’s the government run retail outlet. Don’t go there. Order from a local store. you will find much better pricing, and might even meet some wonderful people and budtenders too
Doug ford can go fuck himself with a forklift.
AMEN! 100%.
if you can make that much, but can’t sell that much, it’s cuz it ain’t worth that much not cuz nobody will buy it.
I highly recommend you to read why they were making that much. They never intended to sell that much to us Canadians. it’ was stupid business decisions to try and pry into the US market before legalization even happened there. Even if they gave this stuff away for free, it would be more than Canadian’s would consume because it’s more than the demand. Cannabis isn’t a staple or necessary daily product (for MOST people). it’s a luxury and therefore there’s a ceiling to the demand. Unlike staples and products we need to live, which has no ceiling.
AND FURTHERMORE, since clearly the government is going to read this, you might want to doublecheck that quality control isn’t just taking the cheque and AFKing, cuz from this end that’s how it looks!
Really? Have you had a really bad string of experiences with quality? I’ve been smoking for 20+ years, and the stuff I’ve gotten from the store, (while dry compared to older stuff), is 100x stronger, and a better smoke than anything I ever got illegally before. While much of the numbers are inflated (since we need better regulation on testing), the quality of weed now is truly astounding compared to how it used to be.
I can recommend you some amazing strains if you’d like.
Supply exceeded demand, it happens.
Demand increases to meet supply?
Only if suppliers decide to lower prices, and only up to a certain point.
Not all products have an infinite demand curve though. In this case, a luxury product with a finite consumer base. Even if they gave it away for free, there will still be the majority of the population who will not want to use it.
unlike things like groceries, which have a constant demand due to being staples and required for life sustenance. If you gave them away for free, you end up with Hoarding and unlimited demand.
I’ve never used cannabis in my life, but last year I got a wild hair and decided to buy a gummy. It had no effect on me save for wanting to go to bed early, but I did my part y’all.
Everyone’s dose is unique. You’d have to slowly move the dose up (without overdoing it, because edibles last awhile) to the desired effect.
I tried 5 mg to start I think? Idk I just wanted some cereal and slept well.
Sounds like it did it’s job.
out of curiosity, what do you expect? This is something I’ve encountered with a lot of first timers. They aren’t sure what to expect, so when they don’t get that, they aren’t sure they’re high.
Cannabis affects everyone differently. Different strains will have different affects too (terpenes are interesting!)
I thought I’d feel kind of mellow and goofy. I think the reason I didn’t react much is because I’m on naltrexone which is used in anti-substance abuse treatment (I use it for trichotillomania).
Same experience. My gf felt like she had a cold. We both tried it 3x with same results.
My husband who has ED got a woody for the first time in a while lol.
It’s a well known phenomena that some people just don’t get high their first time(s). I knew a guy since high school and years after that was basically immune to it. People gave him huge vape bags and massive doses of edibles and it never had an effect. Never saw the guy forget a single word. Then apparently at some point it did, because he smokes now.
There are also people who are terrible at metabolizing gummies. I’m not one of them. Give me 2mg and I’m good. Give me 20mg and I’m curled up in the fetal position in bed waiting for the visions and monsters in my head to go away.
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Ok good to know. Maybe I’ll try again.
You bought “a gummy”? i had no idea that they sold singles.
Yes they do!
Yep - single 10 mg gummies are a thing. Less common than 2 x 5 mg but there’s a couple.
The Health Canada cap is problematic - how much of this biomass could’ve been used to produce varying higher doses of edibles that actually match what most consumers want? (aside from cannabis newbies dipping their toe in - anecdote, not data, but those are the only folks I really see buying these. Everyone else makes their own or buys higher dosed ones off the unregulated market)
how much of this biomass could’ve been used to produce
All of it.
Not even edibles. If they wanted to spend some additional resources, they could have made extracts, oils, edibles, etc out of this biomass. Even low quality weed will have THC and other Cannabis that can be removed via numerous extractions methods.
The fact that instead of doing that, they’re cutting their losses and throwing out product means it’s a business decision to do this burning. NOT a decision based on the market or community. The LP system in Canada has sadly given all the growing power to a few giant corporations up front who are in it for money, not better products.
Heck, when former, Anti-Cannabis police chief suddenly started investing back in 2017. you knew it was all about the money.
