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@NightOwl@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.ml • 2 years ago

Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to ‘shut up’

www.reuters.com

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Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to ‘shut up’

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@NightOwl@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.ml • 2 years ago
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Ukraine told critics of the pace of its three-month-old counteroffensive to "shut up" on Thursday, the sharpest signal yet of Kyiv's frustration at leaks from Western officials that say its forces are advancing too slowly.
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  • Annakah69 [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Get out of your bubble. The majority of the world supports Russia. It’s an uncommon view in Europe/USA, but common everywhere else.

    Also, being anti NATO expansion doesn’t mean you support Russia. That is a reductive world view.

    • @LoopingRiver@lemm.ee
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      Well thankfully most of the powerful (economically and militarily) nations support Ukraine. You’re the one in a bubble.

      • Annakah69 [she/her]
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        7•2 years ago

        So people in the developing world don’t get an opinion because their country is poor and weak?

    • @mothersprotege@lemm.ee
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      16•2 years ago

      Regardless of how many despots find Putin’s approach appealing, it remains fundamentally wrong.

      • Annakah69 [she/her]
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        47•2 years ago

        Who said anything about despots? These are opinions of people, not rulers. Citizens of Africa, Asia, South America have suffered under US hegemony, so they view the Russian State different than you do.

        The world isn’t as simple as Russia bad, US good.

        • @mothersprotege@lemm.ee
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          O rly? Because I thought things were simple. I, like everyone who isn’t already fully on team hexbear, am an idiot. Please cite your sources.

          • Annakah69 [she/her]
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            https://www.eiu.com/n/russia-can-count-on-support-from-many-developing-countries/

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/30/negative-views-of-russia-mainly-limited-to-western-liberal-democracies-poll-shows

            This isn’t news.

            One more: https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/worlddivided

            • @Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social
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              Have you even read these?

              Just one example:

              Nearly half (46%) globally said that the European Union, United States and Nato were doing too little to assist Ukraine, while 11% said they are doing too much

              • Annakah69 [she/her]
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                8•2 years ago

                Yet among the 6.3 billion who live in the world’s remaining 136 countries, the opposite is the case – with 70% of people feeling positively towards China and 66% towards Russia.

                Or in other words, the majority of the world supports Russia.

                • @Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social
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                  As your quote shows the article you’re citing from doesn’t only look at peoples’ views of the war in Ukraine, but shows a big divide between progressive and conservative nations. Eg. the majority in SE Asia, the Middle East and Africa doesn’t care as much for Putin invading Ukraine as they do for him stomping on the gays and progressives.

                  Sadly, conservatives outnumber progressives globally.

                  • Annakah69 [she/her]
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                    4•2 years ago

                    American cultural conflicts are not world politics. This has nothing to do with “the gays” or progressives (meaning less term).

                    Cuba is against NATO expansion. If you think it’s because Cuba allegedly hates gays you need to study both history and recent events before forming political opinions.

              • SnAgCu [he/him, any]
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                Sure, for what it’s worth I could concede that a global majority might approve of support for Ukraine according to this data. Looking at raw data from: https://www.allianceofdemocracies.org/initiatives/the-copenhagen-democracy-summit/dpi-2023/

                That figure may not be accurate however, especially because I can’t see that they computed a weighted global total by population. They extrapolate to obtain each “nationally representative result” by taking into account the respondents’ age, gender and education to mitigate selection bias. I have my doubts about extrapolating like that, but okay. The main problem is when you check the global total, it’s just an unweighted average of all nations. Highlighted in orange: Top - unweighted average of all nations, Bottom - reported figure from the author

                Each country has ~1000 respondents, so there isn’t a proportional representation of each country based on its population - small countries (mostly imperial core, as it happens) have an outsized effect on the average.

                • @Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social
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                  But why post it when you think it’s a shit paper

                  • SnAgCu [he/him, any]
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                    Nearly half (46%) globally said that the European Union, United States and Nato were doing too little to assist Ukraine, while 11% said they are doing too much

                    I do think the paper is flawed but not useless. I wasn’t really the one who posted it though, it’s the primary source for this claim in the other article.

            • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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              27•2 years ago

              Weird how they ask for sources then never respond. Almost as if they’re just arguing in bad faith and trying to waste time.

              • Annakah69 [she/her]
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                27•2 years ago

                It may take them sometime to digest, especially if they had a marvel movie USA good Russia/China bad worldview.

                Hopefully they grow from the knowledge.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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            19•2 years ago

            I, like everyone who isn’t already fully on team hexbear, am an idiot

            did they fix the emoji problem yet?

            FREUDIAN SLIP farquaad-point

            Please cite your sources.

            Source

            • @mothersprotege@lemm.ee
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              What a surprise, a childish dipshit.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                You sure are

              • Egon [they/them]
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                24•2 years ago

                Source?

              • Annakah69 [she/her]
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                27•2 years ago

                All you’re doing is insulting people. This behavior is why PIGPOOPBALLS is a necessity.

                • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏
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                  6•2 years ago

                  PPB aka juicy thread located

                  Emoji

          • marx_mentat [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4•2 years ago

            At least you can admit it

      • SlyBlue [they/them]
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        13•2 years ago

        Why is the west not despots but the rest of the world is?

      • Sasuke [comrade/them]
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        42•2 years ago

        despots

        us-foreign-policy

        • @mothersprotege@lemm.ee
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          Lol racist libs, amirite? Idiot.

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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            9•2 years ago

            Lol the thing I just did but laughing it off like it’s ridiculous to say haha

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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            19•2 years ago

            Libs just can’t help expose themselves

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