• @SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world
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    1306 days ago

    Good thing this isn’t a country that came about because a bunch of rich white dudes got tired of being taxed and started a revolution.

    • ggppjj
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      5 days ago

      That’s possibly reframing “no taxation without representation” a bit but I don’t entirely disagree with the sentiment.

      • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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        76 days ago

        In the most literal sense we have representation, but it sure as hell doesn’t seem like it in practice… :(

        • Geetnerd
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          36 days ago

          Not anymore.

          Watch the Republican Town Halls of the few who still have the courage, or narcissism, to hold, and even though they’re being booed down, they still have the arrogance to try the lecture their constituents.

          I think they’re trying to instigate riots so they can declare Martial Law via The Insurrection Act.

        • @jaybone@lemmy.zip
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          76 days ago

          Literal only in the terminological sense. We elect “representatives” but they don’t actually represent us in any meaningful way.

      • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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        176 days ago

        They thought funding Trump would get them representation. They were wrong. Trump cares about no one but himself.

        • Geetnerd
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          16 days ago

          Why would they care about “Representation?”

          They have more wealth than 1,000 people could ever spend in 1,000 lifetimes.

          He backed down to keep profits from MAGA Cult Members flowing in.

          Because being that greedy is a mental illness.

          • Geetnerd
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            46 days ago

            He was one of the richest Americans who ever lived. I don’t if that is still true, but it was at one time.

          • @Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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            So, he could have paid other guys to fight the war and stayed home? Instead of being in the middle of the battles, and going cold and hungry in Valley Forge?

            There’s a lot of bad things you can say about Washington but enough good to at least make him complicated. He chose to limit his own Presidency, the opposite of our wannabe Führer. for one.

            • @StaticFalconar@lemmy.world
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              35 days ago

              The modern technology of satelites, phones and such werent around back then, so any general wouldn’t be an effective one if they werent on the front lines with their soldiers.

              • @Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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                Yes, he chose to join the battle and become a General rather than sit out the war at Monticello. It’s not like he was ambitious to become the leader of the new country. He felt a sense of responsibility.

            • Geetnerd
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              76 days ago

              Yes, he was filthy rich, not in liquidity, but in assets.

              But yes, he was approached with the offer to be King of The Colonies, and he refused. We can admire that.

            • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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              96 days ago

              Well, his wealth wasn’t exactly liquid, it was mostly tied up in wilderness land.

              Fortunes in those days weren’t in bank accounts, or stocks, or index funds, etc. They tended to be tied up in assets like land, slaves, crops, etc., and cold hard cash/gold, stored in a box somewhere, like under the floor.

      • Geetnerd
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        -16 days ago

        How are billionaires being taxed unfairly, and without “Representation,” when they own our politicians?

        • ggppjj
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          15 days ago

          I don’t know, I don’t see anyone saying that here.

            • ggppjj
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              45 days ago

              I really don’t understand the aggression, I was talking about the old rich dead people propaganda concerning no taxation without representation 200 years ago, I never said anything about the fuckwads we have today.

              If you think I’m saying something different, explain what you read and allow me the opportunity to clarify my intent.

              Saying I’m full of shit at this point is just asinine.

      • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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        26 days ago

        When elections are fraudulent, its the same as no representation. Besides, pretty soon they’ll be suspending elections altogether. It doesn’t get more “no representation” than that.