This is pathetic Sinophobia.
So tell me, what happened at that square in 1989?
Point to it on a map.
Don’t distract. I knew where exactly in the Chinese capital this square is when I was six years old. Your accusation that I must be some ignorant American who can’t find anything on a world map is wrong on both accounts.
Once again: What happened there? I want an honest answer from you.
Don’t distract ?
We’re talking about developments in AI tech, and you want to make it about Tiananmen Square .
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As you and I recently discovered in another thread, you don’t know whataboutism is, and entire account is dedicated to sinophobic comments .
As are your other accounts.
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Haven’t you heard? The truth is sinophobic. Obligatory:
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Breaking news: AI has the same biases as their creators! More at 11
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Yeah, the whole article reads like “China says good things, but actually, they are just bad things in disguise! Chinese AI is cheaper and in some cases better, but actually its all a master plan for world domination! Remember, guys, China bad!!!”
Of course the software created in China would intentionally try to follow Chinese laws. Just as American software follows the laws of the US. However, China made their models open-source, so people can tinker with them and (possibly) make a fork without the censorship, and run it locally without any data being sent who knows where. While ChatGPT, Gemini and all the rest are closed-source, and you have zero control over them, so you can’t even hope to circumvent the propaganda that’s built into those models.
But yeah, Tiananmen square 1989, China bad, let’s all stop thinking about anything
Saying that “everyone is doing it” is called hypernormalization and a common propaganda technique used by autocratic regimes like Russia and China. It’s meant to instill feelings of hopelessness and indifference. It is also usually extremely dishonest, since it relies on false equivalencies (like in this case) and/or comparing current state crimes with past state crimes of others.
DeepSeek is designed to follow Chinese state propaganda. ChatGPT is designed to follow American oligarchy propaganda. Each side pushes their own biases. Where is the false equivalence?
Also I wasn’t meaning to instill hopelessness or indifference. On the contrary, I tried to point out that you should be equally as mad at OpenAI/Google/the rest of the western AI companies as you are at the DeepSeek. The fact that people are only mad at China and not at the megacorporations in the west does, imo, indicate their biases.
According to Baidu and most of .ml, absolutely nothing. It was a perfectly normal day of getting emulsified by tanks. There are no unhappy people in China, and they have the CCTV recordings to prove it!
Please explain how this is Sinophobic.
Innovation from other countries is not subjected to similar scrutiny
People have scrutinized what chatgpt for example is allowed and not allowed to say by its programmers. I think the difference here is that there is lower hanging fruit to grab because the Chinese state has a different relationship to censorship than a lot of other states.
I also associate Sinophobia with being prejudiced against Chinese people or Chinese culture, however being critical or skeptical of the Chinese state is actually perfectly reasonable. I’m also very critical of the US state and this isn’t because I’m “americaphobic” or some nonsense.
Totally agree. Saying that “any criticism of the Chinese government is sinophobic” is the same as saying that “any criticism of Israel’s government is antisemitic.”
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Welcome to the internet, you must be new. Keep scrolling through new here and you should see some pretty common jokes about the falliability of AI of various flavors. Criticism of the weighting on training models can be found with just slightly more effort.
