Where are your primary sources?
Does that also mean you don’t understand what they are?
See this does not work the way you think it does.
I’m not the one making the claim. I’m saying that I have not seen any official Russian statement to this effect. However, if you have a source for one then please show it.
See this does not work the way you think it does.
They did and some of us watched it live (we are told) on russian state TV in 2022,2023 and just last month. Please provide primary sources that contradict what I witnessed.
still waiting for that official statement bud, should be really easy to find since you obviously wouldn’t make things up
Wrong person, you want @sweng@programming.dev
But yes, if you want to have a official statement watch the victory day parade speech putin made.
Again, feel free to link to the part of the parade where Putin says what you two are claiming he said. Should be really easy to do since it’s publicly available.
Should be, go nuts look it up.
I can’t look up what does not exist. There is no such statement, you made it up and now you’re asking me to prove a negative.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64397745
https://www.politico.eu/article/putin-threaten-arm-west-enemy-with-long-range-missile/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyanPIR-898
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/1/how-real-is-putins-threat-to-nuke-the-west
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2022-10/news/putin-calls-reservists-renews-nuclear-threat
https://nypost.com/2022/12/10/putin-threatens-preemptive-nuclear-strike-as-war-drags-on/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-ukraine-nato-nuclear-weapons-1.6362890
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/29/putin-russia-state-union-speech-military/
Oh yeah, that is how that must work for you every statement you make is true and anyone else needs to provide proof otherwise, and it does not count if you don’t agree.
You are the one claiming the given sources are incorrect. You are the one making a claim, and you are the one the burden of proof falls on.
You are really hurting the Russian case here. They do their best to act all tough and intimidating, and here all you come with is crying about not liking the provided sources. You’re making them look even worse then they already do.
I said that you failed to provide primary sources to support your claims.
Yes, and then what? Are you somehow suggesting that only primary sources can be used as sources? I’ve never heard anyine take that position before.
Of course, one can challenge sources (of any type) but that does usully require some type of argument for why the source is incorrect, and not just because you don’t like it.
I’m suggesting that when you say Russian red lines have been crossed without consequences, you need to provide primary sources from Russia regarding what Russian red lines are. I see this is a very difficult concept for you to grasp.
Of course, one can challenge sources (of any type) but that does usully require some type of argument for why the source is incorrect, and not just because you don’t like it.
The source is incorrect because the red lines claimed in the source haven’t actually been articulated by Russia, and none of the links in your source actually trace back to statements from Russia. So, claiming Russian red lines have been crossed when there is zero actual evidence these were Russian red lines is nonsensical.
you need to provide primary sources from Russia regarding what Russian red lines are.
I actually don’t. I need to provide some source. If you are unhappy with that source it’s up to you to show that it is a bad source, and why.
I’ve already explained to you why your source is misleading, and that the red lines your sources list trace back to western statements as opposed to Russian ones. It’s not about feels, it’s about you making an objectively false statement.
You literally haven’t explained it. Your argument seems to be that secondary sources are per definition invalid, which you certainly are allowed to feel, but it is a very niche opinion to have.
Oh its so much funnier then that, They then provide non primary sources while demanding everyone else “Proves” them wrong only with primary sources. This is a joke at this point.
The two sources yogthos@lemmy.ml provided are nato.int for a NATO statement, a primary source, and the Wikipedia page for burden of proof, a concept that doesn’t have a primary source. In this thread yogthos@lemmy.ml has a perfect track record of using 100% (1) primary source, and 0% (0) secondary sources.
