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California officer shoots and kills boy, 15, holding gardening tool

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California officer shoots and kills boy, 15, holding gardening tool

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Civil rights advocates call for release of police bodycam video after Ryan Gainer killed on Saturday by deputy responding to 911 call
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  • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    Now lets put you there under an attack and give you 4 seconds to decide what to do. I wanna see that Sparta kick.

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    • @eskimofry@lemmy.world
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      Maybe that’s why they give all that cop training for? You speak as if cops are cornered deer.

      • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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        I’m not speaking of police in general. I’m speaking of this specific event.

    • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      4 seconds to decide what to do.

      Isn’t that what training is for? To train the brain to react appropriately? Why do hair dressers require more training than cops?

      • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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        The point is that it’s quite easy here to observe the video comfortably from your couch at home and with the power of hindsight ponder what they should’ve done instead. The officer being attacked here had no such luxury. This is in no way me saying that there’s zero issues on how policing is done in the US. There’s nuance to these things.

        • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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          The British have figured this out, why can’t Americans:

          London Bridge attack: Darryn Frost on using a narwhal tusk to stop knifeman

          • @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml
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            I think that was the one where the Millwall fan was throwing furniture at the attackers. Fuckin legend.

        • @FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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        • @eskimofry@lemmy.world
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          Well talk about nuance! you think pulling out a gun and putting some lead into a 15 yr old with a spade was the only option!

          • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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            I do not hold that belief

      • @FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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        The training, what little there is, is the problem in this case unfortunately. All the killology and us vs them horseshit they tell cops leads to precisely this type of situation. Proper training means that is indeed more than enough time to check down an ROE before using lethal force, but when you have a hammer and no one punishes you for hitting the wrong nail…every kid looks like a nail if they’re they wrong socioeconomic type or color and you’re constantly in “fear for your life.”

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      • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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        Why are you attacking me instead of what I’m saying?

        • @in4aPenny@lemmy.world
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          Because as a cop you dehumanize yourself and other people, therefore are undeserving of humanity. Ya’ll have been killing black kids long before that time ya’ll dropped C4 explosives on their homes in 1985. Cops are irredeemable fascist pigs, gun-wielding arms of the state, whom the 2nd ammendment was written to permit shooting.

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      • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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        The “child” in question is a 15 year old adult sized man.

        • @Thteven@lemmy.world
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          I was willing to give your argument consideration until this braindead-ass comment. You can fuck right off now. Goddamn boot lickers.

          • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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            Describing a teenage boy as a child is just pushing a narrative to minimize the potential threath by him. Look at the pictures in the article. If someone his age and size charges at you while wielding a weapon then you should be scared for your life. That is not to say shooting is the optimal solution but you better do something and quick.

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              • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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                I think it’s safe to assume that of us two it’s you whose more interested about the color of his skin

                • wanderingmagus
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                  As an active duty member of the US Navy and specifically the submarine forces, people like you make me less and less hesitant to set condition 1SQ for nuclear launch when the time comes.

                  • @Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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                    People like me? You care to elaborate what you mean by that?

        • @Wayren@lemmy.world
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          No mother fucker. No. This was not a man. This WAS a child. Fuck off with your quotation marks.

        • @Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world
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          “I swear your honor, this was no child…that 15 year old girl was stacked like a woman”

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          • @in4aPenny@lemmy.world
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            He’s a cop he doesn’t need the films.

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