Sarah Katz, 21, had a heart condition and died hours after she drank Panera’s Charged Lemonade, a large cup of which contains more caffeine than Red Bull and Monster energy drinks combined.
All Panera Bread restaurants are now displaying “enhanced” disclosures about the restaurant chain’s highly caffeinated lemonade, a spokesperson said Saturday, following a lawsuit that was filed by the family of a young woman who died after drinking the beverage.
Monday’s lawsuit, which was first obtained by NBC News, alleges that Sarah Katz, an Ivy League student with a heart condition, died after she drank Panera’s Charged Lemonade last year.
A large Charged Lemonade contains 390 milligrams — nearly the 400-milligram daily maximum of caffeine that the Food and Drug Administration says healthy adults can safely consume.
I fuckin bet they are.
wait wait a lady fucking died and they’re getting away with simply enhanced signs??
Putting up the sign now probably hurts them in a civil suit.
But it does alleviate them from a second suit.
Maybe they’d like for people to not be harmed by their lemonade for the sake of not hurting people, more than money. That’s a lot to believe about a corporation though.
Maybe they genuinely don’t want anyone else to die
Model (USA) Rule of Evidence 407: Subsequent remedial measures are not admissible as evidence to prove negligence, culpable conduct, a defect in a product or its design, or a need for a warning or instruction.
But the court may admit this evidence for another purpose, such as impeachment or — if disputed — proving ownership, control, or the feasibility of precautionary measures
EDIT: I’m not looking up the contextualing comments that accompany the rule, but I will share what I remember from law school many years ago: this rule exists for public safety. You don’t want to penalize fixing a dangerous situation, regardless of the facts of any specific case.
This comment is completely correct. This rule would apply here.
Well the FDA says the caffeine content is safe for an adult.
The FDA also says brominated vegetable oil is safe for human consumption
Looks to me like it is safe in smaller doses?
Thank Gebus for California.
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So, the FDA isn’t perfect, but they’re reversing their stance based on evidence.
https://www.fda.gov/food/food-additives-petitions/brominated-vegetable-oil-bvo
BVO is added to a food for a specific purpose and is regulated by the FDA as a direct food additive. BVO is allowed for use in a small amount, not to exceed 15 parts per million, in the U.S. as a stabilizer for fruit flavoring used in beverages.
The FDA is working on a proposed rule to amend our regulations to remove the authorization of the use of BVO as a food ingredient. For more information, see the unified agenda.
For an average healthy adult. That’s what the disclaimers are for, so that those who can’t tolerate it will know about it.
And yes, insufficient warnings should have pretty harsh penalties precisely for this reason
Other people posted pictures of the dispensers. It said right on the sign how much caffeine is in it.
True. As for penalties, some pragmatism is needed lest you create another “everything causes cancer in California” joke.
A warning that’s applied to everything will be ignored by everyone.
Well this is like, how you do not eat things you are allergic too.
I wonder how the doctors knew that she had this lemonade and pinned it as the sole cause of her death vs anything else that could have caused it or as a combination of things since she had a condition already - the legal discussion of this in the lawsuit could be very relevant for panera
She knew she had the condition and avoided high caffeine drinks.
She did not know about the caffeine content, 390mg in the large lemonade, due to poor labeling by Panera. This one drink is 10mg less than the maximum daily dose for HEALTHY person according to the FDA.
Given the lack of consuming any other caffeine products regularly due to her knowing about their impact on her heart, it is not a leap to say the lemonade was the culprit.
Further, the lawsuit alleges harm, even if not the sole cause of death, from their product due to not making it clear to the buyer that contents has so much caffeine.
According to coffeechemistry.com, one liquid ounce of espresso can have anywhere between 30 and 50mg of caffeine. That means that a double shot will likely have anywhere between 60 and 100mg.
She bought a lemonade, without caffeine labeling, that contained 8 shots of espresso in caffeine. Cause of death or not, the legal culpability and reasonable expectation that this would not be in its contents is clear as day.
This will never go to trial.
due to poor labeling by Panera
Having seen the labeling, I would say it’s the opposite of poor. They’re far more focused on the caffeine in this lemonade than I would have expected on first reading the story.
Either signage was missing, or she did the food equivalent of driving the wrong way up a one-way because she was texting.
This is the point.
The location.
In question.
Did not.
Properly label.
The contents.
This will be a shock to some of you, but the practices of a multimillion dollar franchise across many states can in fact have deviation at one location. People’s experience at locations since the event, at locations other than where it occurred, is not a sum guarantee of what happened at the time of this incident and location.
This is the point.
The location.
In question.
Did not.
Properly label.
The contents.
Got any info that points to that? All the articles I’ve read complain that the standard signage isn’t clear enough and that “as much caffeine as dark coffee” is somehow misleading.
People’s experience at locations since the event, at locations other than where it occurred, is not a sum guarantee of what happened at the time of this incident and location.
I agree. I’ve been reading the complaints. They do have standard marketing for this, and the articles are attacking that standard marketing, not saying it was missing.
Somehow?
A dark coffee has up to ~40 mg of caffeine.
This was nearly 400.
I would say being off by 10X is pretty fucking misleading.
I get it now. You really don’t know much about caffeine or coffee, huh? Keep an open mind and read my reply carefully.
A dark coffee has up to ~40 mg of caffeine.
An 8oz Dark Roast coffee is approximately 100mg of caffeine. The same sized light roast coffee is closer to 150mg of caffeine. Panera’s smallest dark roast is 214mg of caffeine. ~40mg is a 4oz half-cup of lowish-caffeine coffee.
This was nearly 400.
Have you ever seen or held a 30oz cup in your hand? It’s freaking massive. In US terms, it’s a QUART. In rest-of-the-world terms, it’s almost a liter. Every beverage a fast food joint sells is unhealthy at that size (probably including their local filtered water). But the ONE ingredient that isn’t unhealthy in all that is the caffeine! The sugar or sweeteners are the real villains there. 400mg of caffeine for 30oz is simply not excessive. Is it a good amount? Sure. It’s about 2/3 as strong as coffee. You shouldn’t treat it as a caffeine-free beverage. Obviously.
I would say being off by 10X is pretty fucking misleading.
Per Panera’s own nutritional info, this 30oz caffeinated lemonade has about the same total caffeine as a large 20oz hot coffee (which is TINY for a large in the US, but you get free refills as Panera). You’re comparing a 30oz caffeinated lemonade to a 4oz half-cup of lower-caffeine coffee. But as I said, I think it’s ignorance and not bad faith.
So hopefully I’ve just educated you.
I know nothing about this lawsuit but if she ordered this from a delivery app then there would be zero indication during purchasing that it is caffeinated
I saw a picture of the lemonade dispenser herw and the caffeine content was shown quite clearly
The caffeine content was on the label but rather small for such an extreme amount. Additionally, it was not put in relation to anything for 2 of the 3 lemonades, they only wrote the coffeine content in milligram, very few people can relate to this information without looking it other drinks.
For one of them, it claimed to be in similar strength as their coffee, which was a lie according to the lawsuit, as their coffee has “normal” coffeine content.
It’s not a lie. 30oz of the lemonade has as much caffeine as 30oz of their dark roast coffee. That’s a lot of coffee.
I have rechecked the image and the coffee comparison was for 2 out of 3.
You are right, that the concentration of the caffeine was as high as it is in a normal cup of coffee. But the caffeine content was given as an absolute value not as a concentration, so it was misleading. But you are right, it was not a lie.
Their text can be easily interpreted as an comparisons of the large or small lemonade with a large or small cup of coffee. Which is not an unreasonable thought, as 30 oz of Cola has roughly the same amount of coffeine (83 mg) as 1 cup of coffee (96 mg, according to Mayo Clinic).
“As much as our dark roast coffee” isn’t an absolute value, but I think there really should be a sticker saying “Warning: high caffeine content / approx (x mg small) (y mg med) (390mg large)”. This sticker should appear clearly next to the menu items as well as on the cups. Self-serve stations should probably be removed since kids are vastly more likely to drink a ton of lemonade compared to hot, black coffee.
I drank a few of these not sure if it was “as much as a regular coffee” or “as much as an equivalent size.” I didn’t think twice because I take a lot of caffeine anyway, but I shouldn’t have had to google it.
I can see how depending on the circumstances of obtaining the drink, one might not know there is caffeine in it at all:
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ordering from a third party online app that doesn’t have all the right names, descriptions, and pictures
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ordering through a third party proxy or having the item described to you by a third party (“anyone want anything? They have lemonade…”)
There really should be a clear notice right on the thing you’re about to drink from, of exactly how much caffeine is in it. No marketing crap (“it’s charged!”) or vague comparisons (“as much as our coffee”) suffices.
How about a giant sign that says “390mg large” that everyone is just complaining that “how could she know that 390mg was too much”? Because it does actually have the number 390mg on the sign attached to the machine.
The funny thing in this case is that many people replying to this about what Panera should have done are naming things that Panera had already done in this case.
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200mg of caffeine makes me feel ill. 390mg in a lemonade is insane. wtf
I’m shocked it took this long. The caffeine content in that shit is MIND BLOWING. When you buy a energy drink you know what you are signing up for. But a lemonade with 260 to 390mg of caffeine??? That’s pushing the limit of a
healthysafe daily dose for an average adultWild lemonade leaves woman very excited lol 😆
Ain’t Nothin healthy about that lol
Lol. Fixed now.
Why the fuck would lemonade of all things have caffeine anyway?
Because it’s called ‘Charged Lemonade’.
Charged, like the thing that you do to your phone to put energy into it.
Mike’s hard lemonade exists… Has alcohol in it.
Because someone made it and people buy it?
Why shouldn’t lemonade have caffeine? Because you think it shouldn’t? Lol.
It’s more than a litre of red bull in one drink.
That’s about the same as a large coffee, but nobody blinks an eye at that. https://www.cspinet.org/caffeine-chart
Nah even that source shows most coffees are 100ish mg
It absolutely does not. 100mg per what? They list different quantities of each drink on that source. If you look at it from a mg/fl-oz perspective, you’ll see that the lemonades are on par with coffee.
Holy shit yeah actually. That’s a huge fucking coffee is it not? I mean 20 oz is huge.
https://cacmap.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/spilling-beans-how-much-caffeine-too-much
8 oz to 10 oz is what I would expect a cup of coffee to be. FDA estimates 100ish for an 8 oz. I had no idea Starbucks served giant ass coffees like that lmfao
20oz is pretty standard from what I’ve seen for large hot coffees. I believe that the dunkin large iced coffees are like 30oz(while hot is 20). Relatively standard sizes in the US tbh.
Because then people know what they’re getting. That’s why. She wouldn’t have bought a large coffee like that
That’s why you use your eyes and read the sign that clearly states “as much caffeine as our dark roast”.
It’s very unfortunate what happened to this girl. I don’t understand though how having a serious heart condition, she didn’t read the sign that said “as much caffeine as coffee” or “guarana and green coffee”. I have a few food related conditions and I read or research absolutely everything I consume at a restaurant.
If it was clearly labeled she would have been able to make that choice and there wouldn’t have been a court decision that it wasn’t labeled well enough.
It was clearly labeled with the phrases I listed and the amounts of caffeine.
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If it wasn’t, we’ll probably find out in the lawsuit. not sure what your ‘lol’ is about because you can’t say with anymore certainty it was not labeled than someone can assert that it was. As show in other articles, the sign with the name of the drink included the description of the caffeine content. It seems unlikely that it didn’t have a name label on the drink dispenser, but sure, it’s possible and if so, that is negligent of them. Unlimited Sip Club also isn’t a good idea for this drink.
As far as me and a ‘plot arc easier for you to live with’: what are you talking about? Do you think I am Panera or something and I’m wracked with guilt? Seems like an unnecessary analysis of what you think about my personality for some unknown reason.
I read or research absolutely everything I consume at a restaurant
Generally if this is your standard people will die
It’s a reasonable standard for someone who has a rare heart condition and can’t drink caffeine. People without heart conditions are not going to die from this lemonade.
You are suggesting people who have a rare air condition to spend their whole life in constant fear every single thing the eater drink having caffeine in it and it’ll eventually kill them.
It’s just not sustainable and not reasonable, it’s so easy to just put a big bold warning label when things have caffeine when you wouldn’t expect it.
It WAS labeled with the phrase “contains as much caffeine as our coffee” and “caffeine from guarana and green coffee”. And yes, I do expect people with a rare condition that might kill them to be wary of caffeine. I’m allergic to tree nuts. Therefore I make sure everything I consume does not have tree nuts. I have celiac disease, so I make sure everything I consume does not contain gluten. I have T1, and learn the carb amounts for everything I consume beforehand. I don’t expect every product to have a warning label for the 1% of people who have those conditions.
Put it this way. Someone died. The labeling wasn’t enough.
The only way to get it to zero is by eliminating caffeine entirely. Not just from this, but from energy drinks, coffee, and so on. Because there will always be someone who ignores any warnings and has something they shouldn’t.
Yeah, but there’s a fine line between someone drinking an energy drink and someone drinking lemonade.
The problem here is that it isn’t directly and obviously intuitive that lemonade has tons of caffeine. It should be.
Even if there are warning signs, doesn’t mean everyone will read them, even people with heart conditions
That’s true, but you can eliminate like 90 percent of the risk with appropriate AND VERY BOLD labeling
The last time this was posted there was examples of some shops missing the labels. I don’t think if it was ever confirmed if the shop the woman visited was displaying the label or not.
I’d like to point out the irony that these enhanced warnings are a tiny sign that will easily be missed if you ignore the MASSIVE signage and marketing that remind the consumer that the beverages are caffeinated.
The silly part is that “see, it’s a WAaaaarrrrning” might hold more protective weight in court than “HEY LOOK WE GOT A FUCKTON OF CAFFEINE” billboards.
So, that is a ton of caffeine, but if you have a heart condition you really should be more careful about that shit.
I get what you’re saying, but, for me, it would never even cross my mind that lemonade would ever have caffeine in it to start, let alone an insane amount like Panera has.
I mean, it does help to read the sign when you’re getting your drink. The caffeine content is fairly clearly indicated.
It’s called Charged Lemonade; that wouldn’t give you any pause?
Charged could mean the flavor, not stimulants, because it is a vague and meaningless term.
So you flavor your phone every night?
A person can literally just ask what’s in it. You can do that every restaurant you can ask what’s in everything.
You think the lemonade was electrified?
At no point in your life have you ever said that you need to electrify your phone. Or that your phone is electrified.
You know damn well charged meant energy. Be less a disappointment.
That provides no indication that there’s drugs in the lemonade lol
So what do you do with your cell phone at night…
What do you call that thing when you plug it in to the device that’s plugged into the wall and then plugs into the phone what do you call that. And then when that process is done you would say that your phone is fully what…
Also if you don’t know something and you see something new, you do know that you can just ask about it. “This is called charged lemonade what’s in it?”
Yeah man, it’s electrically charged lemonade. Good take.
Charged, as in energy. And you know that. You’re being obstinent.
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Charged with flavor? Charged with fun? It’s got electrolytes?
You kind of just proved my point. Stopping to think about it because of the name. At minimum I would not expect it to be regular lemonade with that name so I would want to know what makes it different.
Their point is that you wouldn’t stop to think about it. It’s branding, it’s meaningless. It doesn’t say “caffeine.”
It is also next to other normal lemonades like it belongs there and not in the “coffee” section.
Imagine just asking the employee there or looking up online or doing literally anything.
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And has had the caffeine content for both 20oz and 30oz listed on the sign hanging from the dispenser since they launched Charged Lemonade…
Well considering lemons have no caffeine to start, I’d assume it’s like a regular coffee or soda. Not 12 of them.
Soap doesn’t have caffeine in it normally but I’ve known if caffeinated soap for about 20 years now.
It appears that it is like a regular coffee.
It’s roughly the same as a cup of coffee. 8 fl oz cup of coffee is 96mg caffeine which puts a 20 fl oz cup at about 240mg and 30 fl oz at about 360mg. The charged lemonades have about 260 and 390, respectively. This is literally just a case of not reading the sign that clearly indicates how much caffeine is in each serving.
I would expect it to have caffeine content comparable to soda or tea. This 30 oz drink has about as much caffeine as four 12 oz Red Bulls
edit: It’s not even behind the counter?? At least drip coffee, which is one of the only beverages that can exceed the caffeine content at issue here, doesn’t come sweet enough by default that it’s tempting to have a refill.
Crawford said if Charged Lemonade is going to remain on the menu, it should be less accessible to customers. She said she thought that it should be behind the counter and that it shouldn’t be eligible for refills.
“By virtue of it being part of the Unlimited Sip Club, it’s suggesting to consumers that it’s safe to have more than one,” she said. “And that is a big problem because it’s not safe to have one, let alone more than one.”Drip coffee isn’t kept behind the counter because people can overcaffeinate themselves.
First off tons of places put out drip coffee in crafts. Example Pizza Ranch. Many restaurants will just drop off a craft of coffee at your table if you ask for it.
You can literally fill an entire shopping cart with caffeine at the grocery store.
*carafe
When was the last time you had fuckin caffeinated lemonade? How do you be careful about it when you ordered a thing that doesn’t have caffeine literally anywhere else on earth?
There’s generally a sign saying the amount of caffeine it has, and gets advertised as being caffeinated. Yes, people with food issues need to actually read stuff like that.
It’s called Charged Lemonade.
Do you know what Hard Lemonade is?
Oh and gfuel makes caffeinated lemonade.
Yeah, hard ____ is an established thing. More than that, it isn’t sold alongside non-alcoholic (lemonade, cider, seltzer, etc.). Gfuel is an energy drink, it makes sense that anything-flavored gfuel will have caffeine.
“Charged” means nothing. There’s no such thing as “charged cider” or “charged seltzer.” It looks like a generic "flavorblasted-"style marketing term to me.
Because it’s an established thing. That’s your defense. It’s an established thing!
You asked when was the last time you heard of Lemonade with caffeine I gave you an example and you didn’t like it.
I know of caffeinated root beer. Been around for much more than a decade. You going to make a federal case of that too because root beer isn’t any established caffeinated drink.
Also, because so much of your debate is it’s not a thing it’s not established…
https://sprecherbrewery.com/products/charged-lemonade-cans-variety-12-pack
You do absolutely zero research. But you’re more than happy to stand on your soapbox and proclaim what you think as fact.
Why on earth would they have that much caffeine for a lemonade at Panera?
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Merica!
This is from their website
The NEW Panera Charged Lemonades are the ultimate energy drink guaranteed to charge up your day. Powered by Clean caffeine from guarana and green coffee extract, these caffeinated lemonades feature refreshing mango, cranberry, or strawberry mint flavors. These drinks are cold, caffeinated, and so ready for summer. Plant-based and Clean with as much caffeine as our Dark Roast coffee.
So sounds like they are advertising it as a coffee or energy drink alternative
That’s fine and all but why so much? This stuff has 390mg caffeine, Red Bulls have 80mg. Such a weird thing for Panera of all places to do.
Red bull only has as much caffeine as two cans of coke?
Coffee drinkers drink several times more caffeine on average than energy drink drinkers. A large coffee from Panera has over 400mg caffeine.
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You guys got 0.6L coffees, wow.
The cold ventis are 24oz
I used to drink five 24 oz. coffees a day, then one day I did the math and realized I was literally drinking a fucking gallon of coffee. Now I’m down to one cup (8 oz.) per day. I feel great and it’s nice to actually blink once in a while.
No body tell him about “liter a cola”.
Per fluid ounce it’s actually not high. A 16 oz can of GFuel has 300mg.
Because they won’t say “no” if somebody wants to buy a FucktonLarge size. Their regular is only 250mg.
Note, the number is conspicuously perfect that you could have one large every morning and still be within FDA recommendations. (400mg)
Looks like it has the same amount of caffeine as coffee. Guessing the large is 32 oz. That’s about on par with drinking 32oz of black coffee
It’s about as much caffeine as a “typical coffee”, but it’s really about 2/3 as much caffeine as any real-world coffee. Dunkies, Starbucks, and Panera’s own light roast is 50% stronger per oz than this drink.
Now. What about before?
Apparently it is advertised like this…
Fuck, I’d stay away just for those awful-sounding flavors. Can’t lemonade just be lemon flavored?
/\ found the 90s standup comic
I wasn’t trying to be funny.
“What’s the deal with caffeine drinks these days!?”
Seinfeld stand up theme plays
I don’t like all these flavored coffees. Maple nut butter caramel fudge whatever. Can I just get a regular coffee?
Yes sir, right away. Here’s your tall black coffee
I mean, what’s the world coming to? I go into a coffee shop and I can’t even get a normal coffee for a normal guy
Absolutely, sir. Anyway, that’ll be $3.95 and if you want cream or sugar in your black, drip-brewed coffee there’s a stand over there
I’m just a regular guy who wants a regular coffee, but in this crazy, mixed-up world…
Yup, and the next 2 bubbler things to the left are regular (though I’m sure insanely sugary) lemonade and iced tea. So if you didn’t read carefully you wouldn’t know you were dosing on significant amounts of caffeine with your lunch or dinner.
It says “Charged” and specifically points out caffeine in 2 seperate spots on each sign. Imo if you don’t see that, it’s on you
We see so many ads every day that I tune out a lot of bullshit around marketing, I could easily see how a person grabbing a drink would only see the big ‘mango yuzu citrus’ and not think that was caffeinated. At first glance the label just looks like the calorie information, though it is true it should be the person’s responsibility to notice, but I could see a reasonable person making this mistake easily.
I’m not sure what we need more than 9 distinct caffeine notifications in a 2x2 area, in a section where 99% of the drinks are caffeinated and have never been marked such, to suspect that maybe this is caffeinated, too.
There’s a fine line between “it’s Panera’s fault” and “It’s the girl’s fault” that reads “holy shit, what a tragedy!”
That was before. The enhanced signs are paper printed taped messages saying it’s not recommended for pregnant women, people sensitive to caffeine, and children.
Right.
Any ivy league student that can afford to eat at Panera? So, her parents are rich and could afford to sue. Makes sense.
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Is this lawsuit gonna drive the price of sandwiches from $15 to $30? /s
They’ll just make their bread even more stale and give you even smaller sandwiches for the exorbitant price.
Now the sales for that drink is going to go up, due to human curiosity.
I definitely want some caffeinated lemonade
Problem is that stuff seems to be more lemonated caffeine than caffeinated lemonade.
There’s caffeinated lemonade and then there’s ‘10 mg away from the maximum daily recommendation of caffeine’ lemonade.
You can order a smaller size if you’re worried. The lemonade isn’t particularly highly caffeinated, it’s the cup size that is excessive. The lemonade is 13mg/oz, an average coffee is 12mg/oz which means a lot of coffees are higher, such as Starbucks coffee at 20mg/oz. Espresso is 50 and “energy shots” ten times that.
I definitely think labeling should be more explicit on presence of caffeine across the board (not just tiny text on a container). A limitation of size to 16oz (half the current size, same as a grande at SB) would also avoid the “supersize” effect here. But the lemonade itself isn’t really the issue imo.
Supposedly you would need to knock back anywhere from 10-25 of those back to back (4-10g dose) for it to kill you… But people have died intaking significantly less caffeine.
Considering the average person won’t know which end of that spectra they’re on until they get there, it’s not a risk I’d want to take.
4g is 10x the safe daily limit, you are putting yourself in danger well before that.
Yes - which is why I specifically said “for it to kill you”
You would experience a range of other symptoms, some quite severe, way before reaching your lethal dose - but those wouldn’t kill you, at least not outright.
Problem is there is quite the high deviation in calculating what that lethal dose is for the average person, and given that people have died intaking significantly less (as I said), testing how many of those you could knock back is not something I’d do personally or recommend anyone else try.
Apparently the woman who died had a caffeine sensitivity. She shouldn’t have been having any caffeine.
I suppose the question would be then was she ever aware it had caffeine in it at all?
I’ve never been to a Panera, so I don’t know how they advertised that lemonade.https://www.fixturescloseup.com/2023/07/23/energy-charged-lemonade-dispenser/
That page, from a few months ago, has pictures. The signs clearly list the caffeine content.
Sucks that she died, but it’s pretty clearly labeled, and if you have a sensitivity, you need to be checking these things if you aren’t familiar with them.
Having the drink available in the soda fountain next to normal drinks is overall a bad idea both for kids and unknowingly customers (also ~400 calories for a lemonade is madness). The adjective “charged” doesn’t make me think “with caffeine”, it should be called caffeinated/energy lemonade in big font like redbull does, not with some abstract marketing adjective.
Sucks that she died, but
Speaking of having sensitivity, jfc.
So get a medium instead of a large?
not now but tommorrow morning yeah
Fuck me…
I was just thinking I wanted to try some Charged Lemonade.
400 mg a day?
Apparently I should be dead.
Most 8 ounce cups of coffee contain 80 to 100 milligrams of caffeine. A large coffee from Tim Hortons is 20 ounces which has roughly 250mg of caffeine. And I used to drink 2, sometimes 3 or 4, of those a day.
I’ll likely be dead by next Tuesday. I sure could go for a coffee right now though.
Edit: For those that want to plan accordingly, a 20 ounce blonde roast from Starbucks has 475mg of caffeine. The dark roast had about 340mg.
Well, the body changes over time. I used to drink a ton of coffee back in my 20-30s. Something happened in my 40s. I became very sensitive to caffeine and I couldn’t handle anything more than a cup. Now I can’t drink it on the regular as it will keep me awake at night. I miss it very much, so every now and then I’ll have a cup, but only if I know I have the next day off.
Decaf?
I switched over to Earl Grey. Love that stuff now.
The spouse still drinks the double dark French roast I love, so I just make her share on those days I want it. It’s a local roaster with no decaf in that flavor.
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Sure, not much though. A pittance compared to the strong coffee I liked.
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Have you tried, I don’t know…sleeping?
I only stop sleeping when I sustain 3-4 large Timmy’s a day for many weeks. On an average Sunday morning when I don’t have anything to do, I can drink 2 cups of homebrew and fall asleep on the couch watching TV.
Consequently, among other observations, I’ve also considered getting tested for ADHD.
Same boat. I easily drink a pot a day. Been thinking I should try and cut back, but maybe this is the push I need.
Who’d have thought a place that can’t even make a bagel with cream cheese properly would be the one to turbo-charge the lemonade.
Seriously, once I decided to get one and they gave me an uncut bagel and little shitty single-serve cream cheese. Even I asked wtf and said I wanted it done they looked at me as if I were from friggin outer space.
Pretty sure it’s normal to put your own cream cheese on… But it would have been nice if they’d at least cut the bagel, I guess.
That’s ridiculous, if you get breakfast sandwiches do they just give you an egg, mayo, and bread? Aren’t they in the service industry?
If you want something done a certain way and are not sure if they provide that kind of thing, you’re supposed to ask. Some people have their bagels sliced instead of cut, some not at all. Like, just ask.
I don’t think the two are related, at all.
I figured it had more caffeine than tea but less than coffee. Clearly very wrong. Glad I didn’t drink this stuff while I was pregnant.
