• ZeroCoolOP
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      Can we stop posting this fucking douche?

      Feel free to ignore news you aren’t interested in. The sad reality is that Elon Musk is relevant and his actions have real effects on people. Bury your head in the sand if you like but don’t expect me to join you.

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          Okay we’re done here. You’re contributing nothing to the conversation and I wasted enough time arguing with fools on reddit, I’m not going to do it here.

        • DessertStorms
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          32 years ago

          Imagine thinking this is still (or ever was) just about twitter, or that if you simply starve the richest fascist on the planet of attention he will just go away… 🤦‍♀️

          • @toasteecup@lemmy.world
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            02 years ago

            I don’t know if he’ll go away but he is showing alot of attention seeking behavior and admittedly we’re giving it to him.

        • Flying Squid
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          What makes you think talking about him on Lemmy will have any effect on Twitter? Most of us aren’t even on Twitter.

          • @sibachian@lemmy.ml
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            -22 years ago

            Things that are only relevant, because they are relevant, are not actually relevant. It’s fluff dressed in a suite.

            Like they say, fashion is only fashionable because others thinks others thinks it’s fashionable.

            As long as everyone keeps talking about Musk all over the place, he’ll keep coming out at top.

            • meat_popsicle
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              He’s so wealthy he could personally go to your neighborhood and “Mansa Musa” your place into inflation. He could just drop $10,000,000 per person to get up and leave whatever square mile surrounding your residence right now.

              Assuming avg population density for a city in the US that’s only $2.8billion (~280 ppl/mile in cities). Not even a scratch to his total net worth.

              A single person with that much wealth and power doesn’t require any attention to retain it. He’ll keep coming out on top because it’s nearly impossible not to when you reach a large enough number.

              • @sibachian@lemmy.ml
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                12 years ago

                he doesn’t actually have his wealth. it’s estimated stock value; which would cascade to nothing the minute he tries to extract it. all he can do is borrow with stock as leverage; which would net him a lot of money sure; but there is no way they would approve billions in a loan unless he is very very specific on the investment goal.

            • Flying Squid
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              I’m pretty sure he’s on top because he’s the richest man in the world and ignoring him won’t change that.

              • @sibachian@lemmy.ml
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                12 years ago

                he isn’t the richest man in the world. his “wealth” is stock. not actual money. and he can’t actually use that for anything but leverage.

                he is small fry in the world of the actually rich; people just give him the limelight because of notoriety.

                • I’m pretty sure that’s how it goes for most wealthy people. It’s all tied up in assets, not liquid cash. Investing your money is always better for growth in the long term.

                  He’s in the news because he’s become a laughingstock. All news isn’t good news. I certainly don’t think he wants news that continues to convince people that he’s an utter idiot and waste of space.

    • @assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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      Terrible article. They provide no concrete examples, only empty platitudes. And it’s clear they’re extremely biased:

      “The national ADL, like the ACLU, the NAACP, and other formerly “apolitical” civil rights groups, is now merely a tax-exempt cadre of the national Democratic Party. Anyone paying any kind of attention knows this. And as the Democratic Party has moved further into the fringes of Left-wing lunacy, the ADL has moved with it—whether a Jewish “antidefamation” issue is at stake or not. The party requires it.”

      He calls every group defending civil rights “actually anti free speech” and suggests the ADL doesn’t do enough for Orthodox Jews, without again any evidence, because of “assimilated Jews”. This sentiment comes up again when he says that most Jews “reciprocate” the ADL’s supposed detestation of Judaism.

      He’s just another religious conservative detached from reality. It’s actually quite concerning when a lawyer makes baseless claims about an anti defamation organization. I don’t know if it meets the legal definition of defamation, but it certainly gets the common usage for it. Anyone who’s ever been represented by this guy should get another trial, because this guy seems likely to prove your role in the murder in the process of trying to prove your innocence blaming liberals and judges for your arrest.

    • @MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee
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      Good article. The ADL obviously broke the law by saying mean things about Elon and his company, they need to pay for that!

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        I’m simply pointing out that the ADL are not paragons. They throw their weight around for their own political purposes. Just because bad guys say things you don’t like doesn’t mean they should not be allowed to say anything.

        • @MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee
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          I agree, the ADL should be shut down for saying bad things about a job creator like Elon. Also, all the businesses that decided to stop buying ads on Elons site should also be shut down, it’s a blatant violation of the law for them to do that.

          • Tb0n3
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            02 years ago

            Your straw man burns brightly in effigy of things I have not said.

            • @MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee
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              I’m on your side, sheesh. I’m sick of this woke cancel culture nonsense where businesses stop giving money Elon just because he “platforms Nazis”. They should be forced to keep giving him money. Now he has no choice but to take down the ADL.

              • Tb0n3
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                Welcome to the internet. You must be new here. Seriously WTF is your problem? Continually reading things I never said in thing I have.

    • ZeroCoolOP
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      Oh he’s a free speech absolutist, alright! Free speech absolutely begins and ends with his personal views and those he finds agreeable.

    • It occurs to me that I’ve never heard of an absolutist that wasn’t a hypocrite in some way. They can excuse white supremacy and Nazis, but they draw the line at either being personally attacked or held accountable.

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    He’s like one step away from claiming the Jews control the world’s money supply.

    • HipPriest
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      I’m actually surprised he’s not crossed that bridge. I do find it interesting to have a billionaire that doesn’t even bother to pay lip service to being a civil human being but is just a massive racist tool.

      But you know what if he met these people irl he’d get along fine with them I bet and there wouldn’t be these unhinged outbursts. He’s a complete paper tiger suffering a case of being terminally online because he thinks it’s his job (it isn’t).

      Maybe he’s taking something either prescribed or recreationally that has him perpetually on a knife edge like this.

  • @FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee
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    How does he even do it? It’s like he’s on a zealous crusade to embarrass himself. I keep thinking “he can’t look any more foolish and shitty” and he fuckin KEEPS proving me wrong. It’s almost impressive at this point. He stays setting new PR for negative PR.

    • muse
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      Not even keeping, explicitly adding them back and unbanning them, and letting them make decisions to ban leftists who spoke out against it (andy ngo recommending people to the chopping block comes to mind)

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      That’s because he’s not and never was a businessman. He’s a tech guy who got super lucky and became filthy rich. Musk builds and designs shit, he doesn’t know squat about running a company. He should stick to playing with his rockets and making new roadsters. This whole CEO foray has turned out real bad.

        • What’s crazy is that he had fooled a lot of people into thinking he was a tech guy with a very carefully crafted image, but he threw it all away to help the alt right

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        He’s not even a tech guy. He inherited his money, and then lucked into a couple jobs with actual tech guys that he could take the credit for. His entire career has been built around buying other tech companies that were just taking off, pushing the original founders out, and then taking credit for everything everyone else did.

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          … lucked into a couple jobs …

          Strongarmed his way into other people’s success, then slapped his name on it and claimed it as his own.

        • Flying Squid
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          He literally went to court to legally make himself a founder of Tesla even though he had nothing to do with founding the company. Such a petty little baby.

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        He’s a tech guy who got super lucky and became filthy rich.

        Not even that…

        He was (at best) an average coder decades ago who used family money to buy lots of startups and a few made a lot of money.

        He was a gambler, not a businessman. It’s just when you start out wealthy you can keep buying lottery tickets till you win. It doesn’t even mean he was good at picking lottery numbers, he could just afford to buy more tickets than other people.

        Musk builds and designs shit,

        And definitely not that

        • @reddig33@lemmy.world
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          And definitely not that.

          Um, have you seen the Cybertruck? I think this is the first design that Elon actually had a hand in and it shows. What a monstrosity.

        • @ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world
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          Not mine but… Entrepreneurship is like one of those carnival games where you throw darts or something. Middle class kids can afford one throw. Most miss. A few hit the target and get a small prize. A very few hit the center bullseye and get a bigger prize. Rags to riches! The American Dream lives on.

          Rich kids can afford many throws. If they want to, they can try over and over and over again until they hit something and feel good about themselves. Some keep going until they hit the center bullseye, then they give speeches or write blog posts about “meritocracy” and the salutary effects of hard work.

          Poor kids aren’t visiting the carnival. They’re the ones working it.

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          Also, we are all looking at this backwards. The very definition of survivorship bias.

          We always only see the luckiest people. All the richest people have been super lucky, because if they weren’t, they wouldn’t be the richest. And also the most ruthless for the same reasons.

          If you look at all the lottery winners, then by definition you will see people who gambled and won. Because someone has to win. That doesn’t mean the lottery winners have some better skillets or are smarter at picking numbers than those who didn’t win.

    • ZeroCoolOP
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      As surprising as it may sound, most billionaires do not arrive there through competence. They get there by way of inheritance and privilege.

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              Lucky timing is: being a white guy growing up in the 70s/80s America.

              Besides that, if you look at the company he started. It started selling books, but he always wanted to sell other stuff. His shareholder letters describe his vision from the very first one and it is consistent. It didn’t change over time. They company got lucky, they talk about prime being a fluke all the time. But on the other hand, the culture in the company was something that supported a fluke like that to bubble up through the idea pond.

              Any who, yea. I don’t care for the person that the media portrays him as today. But for his initial years I absolutely give him a lot of credit.

              I haven’t heard off Amazon being built on stolen ideas or usurping someone else’s company or being born with a silver spoon.

              Yes he was a white male in America in the 70s and has all the privilege associated with that, but there were like another 50 million in that category.

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                It’s more about launching a company right when internet purchases took off. People tried before, but the timing wasn’t right. He had the right skill set, at the right time, and it took off.

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    One of the oldest most experienced groups at litigation against hate and defamation will have a field day with this. I would not be surprised to see X owing the ADL damages if Musk actually follows through.

    This is as nearsighted as DeSantis starting legal battle with Disney.