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In fairness, ol’ Joe just learned about the Tikky Tockies, so he thinks China is all clocks and timers now.
Man leading country with the largest homeless population in the world says country which eliminated extreme poverty within its borders is about to collapse, of course this is true and should be taken seriously
Too late Biden this guy already beat you to it
The old federation is dying, the new one struggles to be born. Now is the time of unlimited China struggle sessions.
There’s something extremely funny about the president of the US looking at what’s going on China and saying out loud, “Their economy is a ticking time bomb.” This is almost an onion news story.
Omfg you people really spam every China related thread on our site huh? Forcing us to endure seeing your annoying asses at every corner, is there no way to block every hexbear user?
Will no one rid me of these meddlesome hexbears!?
Excuse me, I’m here to show my support for Comrade Joe
it just so happens to also be a China thread
p.s.
You can probably block entire instances using one of the 3pa
@CatholicSocialist @marx_mentat mastodon would say what you said but replace hexbear with pleroma
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You’ve been here 3 days.
Have you considered turning the other cheek?
why won’t you damn tankies let us lie about China??? STOP IT!! MODS!!!Just keep dropping this link on the hexbears whenever you can:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
They’re either clueless teenagers that only know the things they’ve learned from TikTok or working for whatever the Chinese equivalent of glavset is. Either way, they tend to make themselves scarce when that link is dropped on them.
Disagreeing with you isn’t spam.
Spamming any thread we post about China is.
What makes it spam? We’re invited to lemmy.ml, it shows up on our homepage the same as it does yours (probably even higher because instances more likely to downvote or ignore political posts don’t link with us atm).
If you meant flooding, it’s not that either. We’re a big instance (1k users weekly) with a general interest in politics and a historical anti-lurking culture, so we’ll be disproportionately active in political threads compared to a general instance like lemmy.ml, just like programming.dev is in tech threads. Are we meant to just not share an opinion because too many other people in the same instance already posted their (different) opinion?
Ngl the anti lurking culture of hexbear has been so good for us being able to fucking bully libs coming in despite there maybe being a “silent majority” of ex-reddit libs who probably outnumber us but never post
Back on Reddit we were like the third most active sub in sheer posting velocity after I think the NBA sub with 2.3 million members. They couldn’t keep us off the front page without fucking with the algo. It’s one of the main reasons they quarantined us.
You assholes are single handlely ruining the lemmy experience. We need to defederate ASAP.
Wait till you find out the ideologies of the Lemmy devs
You can just make your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed and defederate with the rest of us. I guarantee you that everyone will be much happier.
your own instance where only people with brains as smooth as bowling balls are allowed
what do you mean, “you people”?
and that annoyance you feel is nothing compared to the capitalist propaganda you’ve been swimming in your whole life.
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What is it with the homophobia and misogyny? Do you understand that using deepthroating is accusing someone of being the receptive participant in the sex act, and that cultural norms expect that person to either be a woman or a gay man? Do you understand that you’re trying to insult someone by accusing them of being a woman or a gay man engaged in a sexual act that you apparently find to be demeaning or shameful? I mean, like, okay, Catholic, so hating queer people and women should be assumed, but are you actually aware you’re doing it or is it just a reflex?
It’s a common fucking expression. You’re overthinking it. You never say “this sucks?” Give me a fucking break and stop discriminating against my religion.
Casual homophobia to own the tankies
How is it homophobia? I would’ve said the same thing for anyone of any pronoun tags. What makes you so sure I might not be LGBT?
yeah because there aren’t any homophobic queer people. that’d never happen.
Telling someone they suck a man’s dick as an insult is pretty basic homophobia. Unless you meant it as a compliment, then by all means I hope
gets his knob schlobbed for all his hard work.No it isn’t. I would’ve been equally as likely to tell them to suck Xi’s dick if they were a woman. It’s a pretty common insult.
I mean, it could be misogyny. Lets not rush to judgement.
the state is more answerable to the people than a non-state capitalist is.
It wouldn’t be my first choice but it would be an improvement.
You used so many words to tell us you have no clue.
A homophobic Catholic; how unsurprising
You literally don’t know my sexuality. Telling someone to suck dick is like an incredibly common expression.
Why is it so common 🤔
And why is it being common a defense? It was once common to own people, is that also OK?
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you say that, but have you considered that pee pee poo poo?
you’ve made it extremely clear that you don’t read, but I’m going to leave a link here for fun anyway
Your tone is that of a teenager and I suspect you do not know how to define state capitalist, or alternatively you don’t know as much as you think about the Chinese economy.
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At least on mobile apps you can block an entire instance, hopefully that’s a feature we’ll see on Lemmy itself one day.
You can? Which app? I’m using Voyager and don’t see that option.
Connect for Lemmy and Sync for Lemmy both does it.
Cries in iOS.
Thanks though!
It’s under dz
We have to put up with you too, you realize.
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lol this is the fediverse, this is not your space, this is everyone’s space.
Go back to Reddit with the other bazinga dipshits
Time for you to go make friends with the fascists and shitlibs who share your opinions I guess
Go in the real world kid. 99% of people of all politics will not like China.
In the real world 99% of people in US think about where their next meal is going to come from instead of perseverating about China the way you’re doing kid.
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I think you’d be shocked to find out that most of the world thinks very highly of China and it’s accomplishments and foreign policy. Though you like meant only to refer to Americans, which is understandable given your lamentable biases.
Nnnnnothin’ personnel, kid…
Go read about BRI infrastructure projects in Africa and Asia. The global south is generally very positive about Chinese politics because Chinese give them hospitals and roads and ports.
I wasn’t talking about people in countries that have been bribed.
“I only want a government that doesn’t do good things for me!”
lmao this is so dumb. Every campaign promise in every democracy is a bribe then?
No… because they never fulfill their promises.
Most POC do not like China either, it’s only a few countries.
dirty browns bribed by the dirty yellows
You live in the US, how are you not being bribed to think the way you do?
They do it for free! They don’t even get paid to spout US State Department propaganda lmao.
At least we get Xi-bucks.
In fairness the statement is consistent. The US government does it’s damndest to do nothing what so ever for the citizens of the us.
What makes you so sure of that?
The nefarious Chinese are tricking people into supporting them by checks notes improving their material conditions.
Thank God I live in America where I’ll never have to worry about the government doing that.
[laughs in IMF loans]
Maybe the US should try bribing people instead of bombing them
Maybe the US should start “bribing” with infrastructure projects then, I thought they were all about their soft power or whatever
You know the US is upstanding because it won’t even bribe its own citizens by giving them anything that would improve their lives no matter how hard they vote. True democracy!
Hmmm
China
helped other counties improve the material conditions of their peoplebribed the dumb dark folk.
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That’s ridiculous since the Chinese like China and we’re 18% of all humans.
Here’s an article about Americans getting salty that views on China in South America are largely positive as opposed to sub 50% approval rating in English speaking countries.
Here’s Voice of America saying the same thing about Africa and how Africans see China.
Your opinions on China is not only in the minority, it’s a waning minority. Those are western sources I used in case you wanted to cry propaganda.
Again, not talking about countries bribed by China, I’m talking about the countries of the majority of the userbases here…
You think the people answering questions in these surveys were bribed? That’s hilarious lol. Imagine the headlines, “Global corruption soars as China moves to enhance its public image by bribing billions”
CatholicSocialist’s criteria for who counts as people:
You’re such a redditor
It’s also kinda hard to have 99% of people dislike China if 18% of the global population lives there and is very satisfied with their government, not even counting anyone in Russia, other parts of Asia and the Pacific, Central and South America, or Africa.
You’re really showing whose opinions you actually care about. A bunch of propagandized to the brim, comfortable Americans, Canadians, and Europeans
very satisfied with their government
https://www.csis.org/analysis/public-opinion-china-liberal-silent-majority
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sorry to break it to you, but the person who runs your instance might be more aligned with the hexbears than with you.
lemmy user posts on lemmy
“why would hexbear do this?”
Same energy as calling any bad thing done by Americans as “like North Korea”
I found a website that doesn’t have those loser Hexbears. Here let me show you.
@CatholicSocialist @marx_mentat You should be able to block domains on lemmy as a user - just about every other fedi instance allows you to do this.
NSFW emojis - such as their pigpoopballs - often gets places defed, if you’re mad enough you might bring that up to your instance admin.
Dude, take a break!
I mean I completely disagree with you, but this thread can’t be healthy for you. What purpose is it serving to get enraged here?
I’d say take a breather and if you dare: ask yourself how reliable your impression of China really is, maybe research some older claims that have been proven to be misrepresented or false, like this for example. Not saying you have to become a fan, but there seems to be a propaganda effort to prepare the public for a economic/military war with China. So more people need to be sceptical.
You seem to haven’t accepted it yet, but the capitalist class, through the means of communication they control, construct most impressions you have of foreign countries (without them being able to interject) and facts are negligable as they have been in the news-medias support of every US war effort in history as well.
I got a little carried away, but I meant it in good faith, you decided to wear a badge of socialism after all.
What you do is obviously up to you!
Listen, Fat! The US economy is doing better than any economy has every done in history, Jack. I call it Bidenomics. Get with the program.
I’m disappointed, there’s no representation of him having interaction with supernatural beings.
More than a fifth of Chinese age 16 to 24 are out of work.
Spain and other southern EU countries have experienced this, and even higher unemployment rates in the past, but with China’s rather large population, we’re about 30 million young people in a country with few safety nets.
China’s economy barely grew in the second quarter from the first and youth unemployment hit a record high in June, providing evidence of a fading recovery.
So what is Xi going to do when these 30 million hit the streets to demonstrate? Draft them and attack Taiwan?
More than a fifth of Chinese age 16 to 24 are out of work.
Does that include people in school?
Yeah I was going to say that seemed like a weird range to cherry pick. I have to imagine the 16-17 crowd in the US is like, 25-50% employed at best, and that’s 2/9. 5-6/9 in that range are school age if you count college.
I wonder what that looks like for the US
it’s 7.5% for the US and 13.9% for the Euro zone. India, which has a similar population to China is at 17.9% which is so much lower than I would have imagined.
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the Wall Street Journal reports.
“The sluggish pace of growth in 2023 is piling pressure on Beijing to reignite an expansion that is in danger of fizzling out as consumers refrain from spending and exports slump. A drawn-out real estate crunch and shaky local-government finances are compounding the gloom. More than a fifth of Chinese age 16 to 24 are out of work.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-economy-barely-grows-as-recovery-fades-5652a92a?mod=hp_lead_pos1
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This is the official government reporting: https://data.stats.gov.cn/english/easyquery.htm?cn=A01
As of Jun 2023, the “The Urban Surveyed Unemployment Rate of the Population Aged from 16 to 24(%)” was 21.3%.
The “Urban Surveyed Unemployment Rate of the Population Aged from 25 to 59(%)” was 4.1%.
The overall unemployment rate was 5.2%.This site references the same data, but provides better visual charts:
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/youth-unemployment-rate
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/unemployment-rate
No. School is “work” in that statistic.
Am I supposed to believe a 1/5th of 16 year olds aren’t in school?
The situation isn’t really a lack of jobs, it’s that younger generations don’t want to work the factory jobs (because they all studied for better jobs) and there is pressure to look after parents. Not only is there an imbalance in young vs old people due to the one child policy but China also passed a law that required children to provide mental and financial support to their parents. Some parents are effectively paying their children to look after them, thereby removing them from the workforce count.
https://www.voanews.com/a/china-elder-care-law-a-struggle-for-one-child-families/1704200.html
… Are you talking about students? Lol
It’s a demographic. I’m sure there are Chinese students in there but a lot less than you think. The.secondary school system is selective in China. Point is that China has negative impacts from economic downturn which is affecting its population.
Their higher education enrollment percentage for that demographic is comparable to the US (60% vs 65%).
I doubt it, people in full time education aren’t generally counted as unemployed.
Here’s Chinese media talking about it. They’re obviously worried, but it’s not an existential issue. The total unemployment rate is a pretty normal ~5%, the youth rate is currently just disproportionately high.
every accusation a projection
Draw a Clock! Draw a Clock! Draw a Clock!
32 trillion. Just one more. ✨
By my estimates, China has only 70 more years until complete and utter collapse!
Gordon Chang preparing to put himself into cryosleep.
Bro we’re like in our third massive recession in 15 years
He should be focusing on US economic troubles. No matter how many times he tells us we are doing good everyone sees we are not.
From my vantage China looks like it is in a stronger position
