Existence of group chat including Hegseth, his wife and others prompt calls for defense secretary to step down

A former top Pentagon spokesperson has slammed Pete Hegseth’s leadership of the department of defense, as pressure mounts on the US’s top military official following reports of a second Signal chatroom used to discuss sensitive military operations.

John Ullyot, who resigned last week after initially serving as Pentagon spokesperson, said in a opinion essay published by Politico on Sunday that the Pentagon has been overwhelmed by staff drama and turnover in the initial months of the second Trump administration.

Ullyot called the situation a “full-blown meltdown” that could cost Hegseth, a 44-year-old former Fox News host and National Guard officer, his job as defense secretary.

      • ceoofanarchism
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        747 days ago

        Yep its rather disgusting how lots of people frame these things to just criticize his unprofessionalism and gloss over and ignore the war crimes.

        • @C45513@lemm.ee
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          127 days ago

          rampant war crimes aren’t surprising; the US has been doing that for forever. But there used to be the veneer of competence, so I understand why that’s the part that’s getting the focus.

          • @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            At least in the time of Obama they changed the definition of “Killed Enemy Combatant” to be “Every dead male of military age” to make the collateral casualty numbers of their “targetted” drone murders in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan look less outrageous.

            The current bunch don’t even care enough or are competent enough to manage the optics by “adjusting” a few definitions to shift the counts.

            Mind you, for those on the receiving end of the bombings, the effects are still the same.

        • @KittyKalledKarma@slrpnk.net
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          Considereding the Hague invasion clause is still in place in the U.S.A it’s not surprising.

          No one has ever been meaningfully punished there for war crimes or mass murder but if you’re incompetent/ a leaker the state department is on your ass quick.

          I mean ffs the democratic party threw anti genocide protestors under the bus rather then critique Israel over its ongoing genocide. It’s honestly just a reflection of what seems to be the average American mentality.

    • Lit
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      The one who gave him that job needs to be held accountable as well.

  • Gordon Calhoun
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    Former major makes major blunder by signaling major incompetence on Signal, forcing former major to seek force majeure immunity.

    • partial_accumen
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      Former major makes major blunder by signaling major incompetence on Signal, forcing former major to seek force majeure immunity.

      The general consensus is that the private information shared on Signal is a major problem that should probably lead to corporal punishment.

  • @dabailli@feddit.uk
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    I’m actually a little surprised that the fact he was an atrocious appointment took to as long to be proven!

    It’s also crazy to me that we’re still in the “could cost him his job” era

  • @Gerudo@lemm.ee
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    Susan Collins told me he learned from his first mistake though. I’m starting to think he didn’t.

  • finder
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    Donald Trump Jr pushed back on the opinion piece, saying the author is “officially exiled” from Trump’s political movement. “This guy is not America First,” Trump Jr wrote on X. “I’ve been hearing for years that he works his ass off to subvert my father’s agenda. That ends today.”

    The fuck?

    • @ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      The MAGA movement is a cult. Don Jr, the eldest son of the cult leader, is telling the other cultists this author is excommunicated from the cult. Thus the cultists know to ignore anything relating to this topic and can continue their blind devotion in peace.

    • "Signal group chat leaked that a bombing run of Vancouver is planned. Chat was leaked by Hesgeths mom, who didn’t know why she was added and just wanted to ask questions about when would be a good time to buy eggs.

      In response, Hesgeth blamed the media for reporting on things and stuff."

        • I mean, that’s kinda what blitzkrieg was. Just give your mechanized units a bunch of meth and tell them to just push as far as they can as fast as they can with no coordination. Worked to take France.

      • @ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world
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        “What do you mean this isn’t Greenland, Captain?! If it isn’t Greenland, then where are we? I mean, look at how green everything here is, it must be Greenland, right? Falkland Islands? What’s that??”

      • Diplomjodler
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        The excuse will be that there was one trans person in the invasion force.

    • Sixty
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      As Canadians, absolutely.

      Plus their behavior in regards to snubbing states during environmental disasters and gutting emergency response/aid relief would do wonders for any displaced angry guerilla Canadians in this hypothetical.*

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      No, he’s fired an IRS director because one of the other members of the legion of doom pointed out that Elon’s pick investigated J6ers or something

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      He’s fired a bunch of lower level officials.

      His pick for acting US Attorney for SDNY (basically Manhattan) was fired a few weeks later for refusing to drop charges against Eric Adams.

      The acting IRS commissioner has changed over 5 times in the 90 days of this current presidency, including the most recent firing of a guy that was too close to Elon (in some kind of Bessent-Musk feud), just a few days after his appointment. The previous acting commissioner was fired for refusing to illegally share IRS data with DHS to help with immigration enforcement.

      And the current turmoil in the Pentagon is the firings of people he appointed to these positions. It’s a mess.

    • Monkey With A Shell
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      There where a couple women in charge of military divisions, head of the coast guard was one I think. I’m sure there have been plenty that he sees as DEI that got tossed without a lot of reporting.

        • @crank0271@lemmy.world
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          Pretty sure he got rid of some of his first term appointees. Maybe some inspectors general and he may have railed against a judicial appointee or three as a “radical Marxist”?

          • @booly@sh.itjust.works
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            General Milley was his first term appointee for Chair of the Joint Chiefs, and one of the first things Trump did in his second term was to strip Milley of his security clearance, security detail, and even his placement of his portrait with the other former chairs.

            Jerome Powell was Trump’s pick for Chair of the Federal Reserve, replacing Yellen (the first time that a Fed chair had not gotten a second term, and Trump has been clamoring for the power to fire him.

  • What I don’t get about this is the reason. You’d think maybe more insider trading, but why would you need such specific information for that? A simple "attack on Yemen at…“ would be enough. In the first chat at least the people were tangentially concerned with the content, but his wife and lawyer? And ten more associates? For what, bragging rights? He must have known on some level that this is quite sensitive information and should not be shared with just about anyone. The sheer stupidity of all this is incomprehensible to me, it truly boggles the mind.

    And one more thing: all of this has had no real consequences for the troops yet, but these kinds of failures will lead to catastrophic outcomes eventually. The Pentagon is now a clown-show and it is dealing with live-and-death decisions constantly. What a crazy time.

    • Buelldozer
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      What I don’t get about this is the reason.

      The man is, as predicted, staggeringly incompetent. He’s just that bad at his job.

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    What a weird fucking opinion piece (the linked Politico story, not the OP)

    Last week, a month after leaving my public affairs role, I respectfully declined the secretary’s generous offer for a new position and informed him of my decision to leave the department, wishing him all the best. I value his friendship and am grateful for his giving me the opportunity to serve. I salute his leadership in helping the president make America strong again.

    Yet even strong backers of the secretary like me must admit: The last month has been a full-blown meltdown at the Pentagon — and it’s becoming a real problem for the administration.

    “I love the guy like a brother, but what a complete fuck-up” sandwiched in with so much trump butt-licking it’s beyond gross.

    • @booly@sh.itjust.works
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      This is how politics works under an authoritarian: senior officials throwing other officials under the bus by appeal to the authoritarian’s ego.

    • @Dlayknee@lemmy.world
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      That’s what I can’t get over. I mean sure, we know double standards are rife in this administration but OMG how is the entire security community and leadership (looking at you, Congress) not absolutely losing their minds at this? Didn’t they send a SWAT team or something after one of the War Thunder forum leakers for posting a simple manual?! This is just insane.

    • @Today@lemmy.world
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      There’s a joke here about his wife and his brother getting sucked in, but I haven’t figured it out yet.

    • @Wilco@lemm.ee
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      Pretty much everyone that doesnt have Trumps balls in his mouth called that one.

      The same goes for the antivax weirdo with a brain worm and pretty much all the MAGA picks.